Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit

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  • "However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him. "
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    I could care less about Obama

    Do you mean you care about Obama? Or don't care? Not caring would be "I COULDN'T care less." Not could. Just trying to make sure you're not saying the opposite of what you mean to say.
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  • fugawzi wrote:
    Do you mean you care about Obama? Or don't care? Not caring would be "I COULDN'T care less." Not could. Just trying to make sure you're not saying the opposite of what you mean to say.

    i could give two shits.
    is this your way of feeling mentally superior?
    picking me apart over a silly figure of speech?
    or are you just trolling att his point?
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    i could give two shits.
    is this your way of feeling mentally superior?
    picking me apart over a silly figure of speech?
    or are you just trolling att his point?

    No I'm just pointing out that if you meant to say you don't care about Obama then you meant to say "I COULDN'T care less" But if you meant to say you care about him then you said it just fine. Sorry for trying to clarify what you mean. I know saying things properly can get in the way sometimes. Pesky grammar.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,106
    fugawzi wrote:
    No I'm just pointing out that if you meant to say you don't care about Obama then you meant to say "I COULDN'T care less" But if you meant to say you care about him then you said it just fine. Sorry for trying to clarify what you mean. I know saying things properly can get in the way sometimes. Pesky grammar.

    As someone who knows from experience, when your arguments move to being picky about grammar, you are losing.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    As someone who knows from experience, when your arguments move to being picky about grammar, you are losing.
    No, sometimes it's just someone who cares about language, grammar and spelling. Is that that really that hard to believe? I know I do care, but don't post about it. I do appreciate those who do though. :)
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  • wolfbear wrote:
    No, sometimes it's just someone who cares about language, grammar and spelling. Is that that really that hard to believe? I know I do care, but don't post about it. I do appreciate those who do though. :)

    :rolleyes:

    yeah.
    its that that really that hard to believe.
    ;):D;)
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    What if it was sorta reversed, say it turns out that McCain may not have American birth rights, would the dems say that he still should be running in this electing at this point in time? Or would you say that he must step done due to the law? or Provide more proof or whatever it is.

    Imagine it turns out that it was not on the air base.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    :rolleyes:

    yeah.
    its that that really that hard to believe.
    ;):D;)
    Haha, for the record, I was serious. :)
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    MrBrian wrote:
    What if it was sorta reversed, say it turns out that McCain may not have American birth rights, would the dems say that he still should be running in this electing at this point in time? Or would you say that he must step done due to the law? or Provide more proof or whatever it is.

    Imagine it turns out that it was not on the air base.
    Nar, the rules apply to everyone whether i like it or not. I just can't get my head around how something like this could actually happen. We are days out from the election.
  • wow....that was a brief trip...not even a full 24 hours.

    http://www.khon2.com/news/local/33296064.html

    I hope he managed to get his paperwork arranged.
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    As someone who knows from experience, when your arguments move to being picky about grammar, you are losing.

    Again, I wasn't arguing with him. I was simply trying to figure out what exactly he was saying. Why is it so bad to want to know what someone means to say and not the EXACT OPPOSITE? If I said "My grammar is better than yours, you're illiterate." Then I would say yes you're right. I didn't say that nor did I mean to imply it. I guess we should all just say the exact opposite of what we mean to say. Ok. Was simply me trying to figure out what he was trying to say. Thank you.
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    wow....that was a brief trip...not even a full 24 hours.

    http://www.khon2.com/news/local/33296064.html

    I hope he managed to get his paperwork arranged.
    Are you doubting she is sick? I'm just trying to get where you are coming from here. Who decides how much time you spend with a dying person in their last days anyway? Not everyone is the same Roland and that doesn't mean that they care any more or less.
  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    wow....that was a brief trip...not even a full 24 hours.

    http://www.khon2.com/news/local/33296064.html

    I hope he managed to get his paperwork arranged.

    Are you surprised at the briefness of his trip? It was well reported he was only going to be there for a day or two. After all, he is running a campaign (quite effectively I might add) with less than 2 weeks to go.
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  • fugawzifugawzi Posts: 879
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Are you doubting she is sick? I'm just trying to get where you are coming from here. Who decides how much time you spend with a dying person in their last days anyway? Not everyone is the same Roland and that doesn't mean that they care any more or less.

    It's pretty obvious he doubts the legitimacy of Obama's grandmother being sick.
    It just isn't adding up. Any bets that she doesn't die?
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    fugawzi wrote:
    It's pretty obvious he doubts the legitimacy of Obama's grandmother being sick.
    It would take an exceptionally evil person to mastermind something like that and exceptionally evil person to think it, if it's not the case.
  • fugawzi wrote:
    It's pretty obvious he doubts the legitimacy of Obama's grandmother being sick.

    Put it this way.... I don't believe it automatically by default if that's what you're wondering.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Put it this way.... I don't believe it automatically by default if that's what you're wondering.

    Sweet mother of God Roland. Sometimes a duck is just a duck. Obama's grandmother (who basically raised him as the natural born American citizen that he is) is sick and dying. That is what old people do. Obama went out there to visit her. That's all there is. It isn't some vast conspiracy of trying to forge birth certificates.

    If there was something to this case it would have been brought up a long long time ago.
  • Sweet mother of God Roland. Sometimes a duck is just a duck. Obama's grandmother (who basically raised him as the natural born American citizen that he is) is sick and dying. That is what old people do. Obama went out there to visit her. That's all there is. It isn't some vast conspiracy of trying to forge birth certificates.

    If there was something to this case it would have been brought up a long long time ago.

    Oh quite possibly, but I like the alternate version muuch better.
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Well, Obama could put it to rest, but he hasn't, and now he's quickly running off to Hawaii to see his grandmother because she's on her "deathbed" at the last minute, but he goes solo to a family crisis.

    It just isn't adding up. Any bets that she doesn't die?

    Let's not toss common sense out the windows over Obama partisanship.

    seriously, what the fuck is WRONG with you? you are acting weirder and meaner by the day. not gettin' any lately? please, go fuck a jack-o-lantern or something, just get little roland some relief, for crissakes.
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Oh quite possibly, but I like the alternate version muuch better.


    that's because you're a bored american-wannabee with no place to put your anger except here.

    can't just enjoy your croissant your socialized medicine, eh?
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    fugawzi wrote:
    Or the link that I provided in the second post in this thread which clearly shows his legitimate birth certificate and lists the credentials. The reason it's still an issue is because Obama's way up and the other side is grabbing at straws.



    definitely seems to be the case.
    i am seeing/reading a lot of the 'bizarre'...and so much of right here in the MT. go figure! :p
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  • seriously, what the fuck is WRONG with you? you are acting weirder and meaner by the day. not gettin' any lately? please, go fuck a jack-o-lantern or something, just get little roland some relief, for crissakes.


    sweetie...the hypocrisy is stunning...

    are you always so abrasive?
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  • For those who still missed it. The argument is this:

    "This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?"
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    For those who still missed it. The argument is this:

    "This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?"
    He should have to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is not a manager job at the local Pizza shop.

    All these people want ths guy to be president so bad that they will stretch and bend the rules as far as they can.
    It would not suprise me one bit if we found out AFTER he was elected that he was actualy not a legal American.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    fugawzi wrote:
    Or the link that I provided in the second post in this thread which clearly shows his legitimate birth certificate and lists the credentials. The reason it's still an issue is because Obama's way up and the other side is grabbing at straws.

    this birth certificate shit is like hardcore porn on the hannity forums...

    there are some crazy mofo's over there...
  • He should have to prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is not a manager job at the local Pizza shop.

    All these people want ths guy to be president so bad that they will stretch and bend the rules as far as they can.
    It would not suprise me one bit if we found out AFTER he was elected that he was actualy not a legal American.

    It would appear his authenticity is not to be questioned.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    It would appear his authenticity is not to be questioned.
    A bunch of lambs with their wool pulled over their eyes.
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  • pjfan020pjfan020 Posts: 426
    Originally Posted by RolandTD20Kdrummer
    Well, Obama could put it to rest, but he hasn't, and now he's quickly running off to Hawaii to see his grandmother because she's on her "deathbed" at the last minute, but he goes solo to a family crisis.

    It just isn't adding up. Any bets that she doesn't die?

    Let's not toss common sense out the windows over Obama partisanship.

    ..you're an asshole man. Any bets that she doesn't die? What kind of pathetic, disgusting statment is that. Seriously for your mind to go there is wrong and i hope you understand this.
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  • pjfan020 wrote:
    Originally Posted by RolandTD20Kdrummer
    Well, Obama could put it to rest, but he hasn't, and now he's quickly running off to Hawaii to see his grandmother because she's on her "deathbed" at the last minute, but he goes solo to a family crisis.

    It just isn't adding up. Any bets that she doesn't die?

    Let's not toss common sense out the windows over Obama partisanship.

    ..you're an asshole man. Any bets that she doesn't die? What kind of pathetic, disgusting statment is that. Seriously for your mind to go there is wrong and i hope you understand this.

    The statement was that she was near death, so he had to make an special emergency trip.

    I'm doubting how near death she is.

    simple really...read into it, and call people whatever names you must...

    It still doesn't change the fact that a citizen of the US legally asked for proof of citizenship and was told to go fuck off by team Obama.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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