Israeli settlers spray chemicals on Palestinian farmers while attacking them
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blackredyellow wrote:Just someone of my race, then yes, you can blame me. If Palestinians were targeting the Israeli government or gov't officials, then I'd pretty much be ok with that... But to say that you really can't blame them for taking out innocent civilians because they've been oppressed by people of the same race or nationality is absurd.
how is it absurd? ... up until the early 90's ... all the palestinians being oppressed were innocent civilians ...
and how do you propose people with nothing - attack the israeli gov't and military? ... do you remember pictures of kids throwing rocks at army soldiers? ... this is what we're dealing with ...
look at all wars - it's always the innocents that die ... who is suffering from the US occupation of Iraq? who is suffering from the genocide in Darfur? name any conflict and ultimately it is the civilians that pay the price ...
do i want to see innocent israeli's die or suffer? ... hell no!! - but there is no way one can equate what the palestinians have been thru as the same as what israelis have gone thru in this conflict ...0 -
That's fine if you have a different viewpoint- that's the whole point of a debate... but, no offense, if you don't know what to say to respond then maybe you should look into other viewpoints and consider them?inmytree wrote:fine...
I guess well agree to have different viewpoints on this...I'm not sure what else to say...0 -
_outlaw wrote:That's fine if you have a different viewpoint- that's the whole point of a debate... but, no offense, if you don't know what to say to respond then maybe you should look into other viewpoints and consider them?
you see, this is were you lose me...
please understand...I've looked at other viewpoints, I've read links posted, I've watched youtube vids on the subject...and thus, I've come up with my viewpoint...
we can go around and around and around...I get the sense that you feel that you must be "right" and that if I don't think just like you that I must be "wrong" in your view...
I've responded...I've shared my viewpoint....you don't agree...I'm ok with that...are you...?0 -
uh, clearly you miss the entire point. It's not to say it's ok if less Israelis die, it's to show that clearly this isn't a case of "both sides are wrong," it's a case of one side being an occupier and an oppressor and the other side retaliating on a very small scale.inmytree wrote:not sure...
I guess I'd have to look it over...
I guess some think it's ok for less Israelis to die if more Palestinians die...0 -
_outlaw wrote:uh, clearly you miss the entire point. It's not to say it's ok if less Israelis die, it's to show that clearly this isn't a case of "both sides are wrong," it's a case of one side being an occupier and an oppressor and the other side retaliating on a very small scale.
if that was not the point, why the need to post body counts...?0 -
Nothing wrong with providing links to support your arguement, but as you can see in this thread alone, everyone understands your opinion as you made it clear and posted some links along with it. But with that said, why continually post more and more links of stories rehashing the same arguement and debate? Doesn't add anything to the discussion._outlaw wrote:what? people can still give their takes/opinions on it, but what's wrong with also providing links that support your argument? is that really a wrong thing to do? people can still comment on it.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
_outlaw wrote:uh, clearly you miss the entire point. It's not to say it's ok if less Israelis die, it's to show that clearly this isn't a case of "both sides are wrong," it's a case of one side being an occupier and an oppressor and the other side retaliating on a very small scale.
I think showing deaths on both sides certainly does show that both sides are in the wrong.hippiemom = goodness0 -
If you don't like me posting a recent news article of a Palestinian dying, then that's fine, but I disagree with you.FiveB247x wrote:Nothing wrong with providing links to support your arguement, but as you can see in this thread alone, everyone understands your opinion as you made it clear and posted some links along with it. But with that said, why continually post more and more links of stories rehashing the same arguement and debate? Doesn't add anything to the discussion.0 -
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5694077&postcount=47cincybearcat wrote:I think showing deaths on both sides certainly does show that both sides are in the wrong.0 -
hippiemom = goodness0
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It's got nothing to do with topic or issue. You've made your opinion and point very clear to everyone. So why is it necessary to post a new story every day? People are fully aware as you are of issues, yet have differing opinions. Posting a new article each day isn't gonna change that; all it does it make it look like you're trying to beat a dead horse._outlaw wrote:If you don't like me posting a recent news article of a Palestinian dying, then that's fine, but I disagree with you.CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis0 -
if you read the post then what the hell are you even talking about. comparing both sides as if they're equal is ridiculous.cincybearcat wrote:Yeah I read that post already, and it's not worth a 2nd read really.0 -
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your dead horse comment is really tired.FiveB247x wrote:It's got nothing to do with topic or issue. You've made your opinion and point very clear to everyone. So why is it necessary to post a new story every day? People are fully aware as you are of issues, yet have differing opinions. Posting a new article each day isn't gonna change that; all it does it make it look like you're trying to beat a dead horse.
this is a thread discussing issues so I posted the story in here rather than make an entire new thread to post that news story. which is something I thought made more sense, but apparently you don't like it. Fine. I really don't care. how about we either get back to discussing the actual TOPIC or nothing at all.0
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