I've been really underwhelmed by Obama tonight. I was hoping for a much stronger perfromance out of him.
I was hoping for a stronger stance tonight also but I don't think it's coming. McCain is the aggressor and needs to be and i gather obama is playing off of that aggression.
Maybe some fireworks if things get personal. McCain is holding is own but he knows he has to be tonight.
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I was hoping for a stronger stance tonight also but I don't think it's coming. McCain is the aggressor and needs to be and i gather obama is playing off of that aggression.
Maybe some fireworks if things get personal. McCain is holding is own but he knows he has to be tonight.
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yeah, Obama with the lead widening, clearly on defense ...
McCain didn't go after Ayers, Wright ...
Obama didn't need to do anytihng but stay on message ... as stated, a draw is a win at this point.
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yeah, Obama with the lead widening, clearly on defense ...
McCain didn't go after Ayers, Wright ...
Obama didn't need to do anytihng but stay on message ... as stated, a draw is a win at this point.
I'd like to hear what Fox News and MSNBC thinks about this debate?
A draw both comfortable in what they had to say. Much different than the VP debate.
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That was incredible underwhelming. From the tone of it alone, you would never know the country was on the verge of going broke, entangled in two wars, and practically tearing itself apart along the lines of Democrat and Republican in the last decade.
Strange. Very strange.
I began uncertain of whether or not my support would end up before beginning to favor Obama.
After tonight, I really think I've lost any real enthusiasm I had for Obama, but not because of McCain's keen prowess as a debater--far from it.
Both candidates were just incredibly underwhelming tonight.
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I didn't like how McCain tried to joke about too much. Maybe a stress release.
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Oh please. Maybe they'll stop if we quit aiding Israel's continual human rights violations. This goverment has caused more terror domestically and internationally than Al Quida ever could on it's own.
I mean the videos of them cutting their own people's heads off, I'm not even considering westerners yet. Is the USA and Isreal really worse then them? We are talking about Afghanistan and Iraq here, right?
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That was incredible underwhelming. From the tone of it alone, you would never know the country was on the verge of going broke, entangled in two wars, and practically tearing itself apart along the lines of Democrat and Republican in the last decade.
Strange. Very strange.
i agree with this...i was hoping to get a more hard hitting debate, where they really addressed the issues. I was hoping to feel like one would be a clear leader, not like I wanted to fall asleep.
"I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
I did not think that they answered the questions- they just ran around the questions. Reiterating things that they have said before- nothing really new- and I was expecting to hear more- especially with how the markets are now.
Overall- I think Obama squeaked out McCain. But not happy with either.
But McCain's pacing drove me crazy.
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Opps I alread had it on FoxNews
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way fewer super powers implied by that.
I was hoping for a stronger stance tonight also but I don't think it's coming. McCain is the aggressor and needs to be and i gather obama is playing off of that aggression.
Maybe some fireworks if things get personal. McCain is holding is own but he knows he has to be tonight.
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no, the x-presidents (SNL cartoon) meet in the league of democracies
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there are also unknown knowns, and unknown unknowns, lol
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And what about Germany's tax rate?
In Euro (single)
0 Up to 7,664
15% 7,665-52,152
42% 52,153-250,000
45% 250,001 and over
the 52K mark is a big jump in taxes, and cost of living is a lot higher there as well.
And their health care is not all inclusive.
USA Tax in Dollar (single)
10% $0 – $8,025
15% $8,026 – $32,550
25% $32,551 – $78,850
28% $78,851 – $164,550
33% $164,551 – $357,700
35% $357,701+
Here is my math.....
42% of 60K=25K vs 25% of 60K=15K.
I don't know about you, but I don't have an extra 10,000$ to give to the government, even if it means I get the best healthcare possible.
Please correct my math or my thinking if I'm wrong, this was some quick figuring. I won't get pissy if you have a good point.
yeah, Obama with the lead widening, clearly on defense ...
McCain didn't go after Ayers, Wright ...
Obama didn't need to do anytihng but stay on message ... as stated, a draw is a win at this point.
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I was thinking the same thing until I blacked out after my trigger.
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I'd like to hear what Fox News and MSNBC thinks about this debate?
A draw both comfortable in what they had to say. Much different than the VP debate.
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Agreed. He needed to whip up on Obama and I don't think he did it. A draw is a loss for him.
Strange. Very strange.
I began uncertain of whether or not my support would end up before beginning to favor Obama.
After tonight, I really think I've lost any real enthusiasm I had for Obama, but not because of McCain's keen prowess as a debater--far from it.
Both candidates were just incredibly underwhelming tonight.
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I don't know much about the economy
the fundamentals of the economy are strong
we are fucked
Johnbo, steadiness you can count on, lol
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I mean the videos of them cutting their own people's heads off, I'm not even considering westerners yet. Is the USA and Isreal really worse then them? We are talking about Afghanistan and Iraq here, right?
Why do you keep calling him Johnbo
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cause he's the only one that can save us from Osama, he alone...rambo is fictional, but at least we have Johnbo
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I did not think that they answered the questions- they just ran around the questions. Reiterating things that they have said before- nothing really new- and I was expecting to hear more- especially with how the markets are now.
Overall- I think Obama squeaked out McCain. But not happy with either.
But McCain's pacing drove me crazy.
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