tonight's debate

OffHeGoes29

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

You do realise that "The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system" right? The US is waaaaaaay behind the curve on this. The benefits far out-weigh the cons and guess what, these systems do work.

I know, USSR, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Loas, Cuba.......great examples of quality of life. Even Europe's governments aren't 100% socialist. I'm sorry, I don't want to pay for your doctor. I don't want to pay for anyones bills but mine, I have that right. If People are not going to evenly contribute to the pot, then why do I have to work harder for someone else to enjoy my tax money more then they already are?

jimed14

some chick on Fox just DRILLED McCain for proposing the $300b housing buy back ... "the free market conservative movement just keeled over and sank to the bottom of the ocean" with McCains plan ... "One of my friends is stating he wished he bought a bigger house" ... ha ha

beachdweller

vduboise wrote:

But McCain's pacing drove me crazy.

I think McCain was trying to emulate Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' performance

g under p

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

i agree with this...i was hoping to get a more hard hitting debate, where they really addressed the issues. I was hoping to feel like one would be a clear leader, not like I wanted to fall asleep.

I agree with ya here, I was yawning quite. I'm glad thr Red Sox weren't on tonight.

Peace

nothinghead

beachdweller wrote:

I think that calling that debate a town hall format debate shows how pitiful our politics are

+1


Really, very little to add to that. I'm sure of the six-million questions submitted, that some of them must have been frank and explicit questions regarding serious issues. On the other hand, we got pre-sorted and pre-determined questions that lacked any real immediacy to them.

Seems like having the audience there was just to give the illusion that the candidates were speaking directly to the people, instead of directly off of their pre-written notes.

Lame.

jimed14

g under p wrote:

I agree with ya here, I was yawning quite. I'm glad thr Red Sox weren't on tonight.

Peace

but they will be on FRIDAY!!! woo hoo.

one thing we have to remember ... we have been following this for a while, this may be the first time a lot of people are seeing this

stylo17

does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??

nothinghead

jimed14 wrote:

but they will be on FRIDAY!!! woo hoo.

one thing we have to remember ... we have been following this for a while, this may be the first time a lot of people are seeing this

I don't think that has the calming effect you intended.

If anything, it had quite the opposite, for me anyways.


edit: either point. i'm a yankees fan. :(

CHANGEinWAVES

stylo17 wrote:

does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??

no because i was just shocked that he said that!....it was like all was a blur around it.

nothinghead

stylo17 wrote:

does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??

Discussing a bill pushed by Bush and Cheney, he said something like, "I bet you'll be never guess who voted for it [points], 'that one,' I voted against it."

inmytree

I'm going to stop paying my mortgage cuz John McCain will by my house and give me a better rate with my own taxes...

nice...

jimed14

nothinghead wrote:

I don't think that has the calming effect you intended.

If anything, it had quite the opposite, for me anyways.

I wasn't trying to calm, I firmly beleive too many Americans don't pay attention, and sadly, politicians gear their message to them ... agian, we'll get a 60% turn out ... IF WE'RE LUCKY.

beachdweller

nothinghead wrote:

Discussing a bill pushed by Bush and Cheney, he said something like, "I bet you'll be never guess who voted for it [points], 'that one,' I voted against it."

the energy bill this year right?

vduboise

beachdweller wrote:

I think McCain was trying to emulate Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' performance

He looked very stiff and I did not feel that he was connecting.

Also - he was belittling Obama, and going over how Obama did not have experience on foreign affairs. Most of the presidents that we have had- started out with little to no experience-

and McCain should leave off the experience talk- especially with Palin-

nothinghead

jimed14 wrote:

I wasn't trying to calm, I firmly beleive too many Americans don't pay attention, and sadly, politicians gear their message to them ... agian, we'll get a 60% turn out ... IF WE'RE LUCKY.

ugh, 60 percent. glad you didn't catch me edit at least, haha.

kenny olav

very boring debate. i wish William Ayers would have bombed it.

nothinghead

beachdweller wrote:

the energy bill this year right?

I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.

jimed14

nothinghead wrote:

ugh, 60 percent. glad you didn't catch me edit at least, haha.

ooooh, sorry about the Yanks ... ooops

Dirtie_Frank

nothinghead wrote:

I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.

something to do with energy.

beachdweller

I'm falling for T Boone Pickets, lol

He's on my tv more than anyone else...ever.

actually impressed with how many times his ad's run. Even though he will gain financially for following his plan, I think he's doing a good job getting peoples attention and talking. Al Gore and others need to aspire to be in the public eye as much

beachdweller

nothinghead wrote:

I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.

Obama should have busted Johnbo out on how he lead his republican congress members to adding 100 Billion + in pork to get them to vote for the rescue package.

CHANGEinWAVES

i'm ashamed that this is the 2nd to last debate and it turned out this way.... this format sucked and didn't allow the 2 of them to interact enough so we could get a real judge of character...instead we have to rely on comments like "my friend" and bad jokes. I consider myself an Obama supporter, but NEITHER seemed Presidential tonight IMO. :(

Dirtie_Frank

beachdweller wrote:

Obama should have busted Johnbo out on how he lead his republican congress members to adding 100 Billion + in pork to get them to vote for the rescue package.

We could have called him, since he did not want to go to DC unless he was needed.

MrBrian

Kenny Olav wrote:

very boring debate. i wish William Ayers would have bombed it.

oh shit! haha,

Dirtie_Frank

Mathews on NBC is comparing smiles. That is some hard political analysis.

Vince

This debate was pointless. If it did anything, it pointed out how boring and out of touch McCain really is.

nothinghead

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Mathews on NBC is comparing smiles. That is some hard political anaylst.

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

The media sucks about as hard as this debate did.

Dirtie_Frank

nothinghead wrote:

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

The media sucks about as hard as this debate did.

I think even if you disagree about supporting Obama or McCain, we can all agree on is that these news channels suck.

digster

nothinghead wrote:

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

That would be a very, very, very stupid idea. I'm only halfway through so far, but that's been by far McCain's worst moment.

CHANGEinWAVES

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

we can all agree on is that these news channels suck.

News coverage in america is a JOKE.:(