God doesn't promote hatred, but i can see you do. what do you care, you don't believe. be your own God. i'm sure you'll save yourself.
God wiped out the earth aside from Noah and a few pets. Don't tell me he doesn't promote hatred, oh wait, let me guess, that was "tough love"?
I am not my own god, the idea of any god is an afront to the notion of freedom sand individuality and I would subject no person to such a cruel bondage. I have also no need to save myself from the boogie man, or the devil or whatever you call him, tough if the bible is anything to go by then the devil is probably a woman what with her being responsible for original sin, I mean we can't have a man making a mistake now can we?
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that is not love. worship me or burn in hell is petty vanity, not love. it's more like blackmail than love.
what's so petty about loving a God who created you? you wouldn't even have a life to start with without God. it's simple: you deny Him, He'll deny you. i think it's petty that people deny God. did you create yourself? i don't think so. people keep saying worship, but it's about LOVING God. i'm sure you don't have a hard time "worshiping" your girlfriend. people do dumb things for people who don't even love them back, yet God gives you many chances to turn yourself into a loving person and people still show hate. God doesn't need the haters.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
what's so petty about loving a God who created you? you wouldn't even have a life to start with without God. it's simple: you deny Him, He'll deny you. i think it's petty that people deny God. did you create yourself? i don't think so. people keep saying worship, but it's about LOVING God. i'm sure you don't have a hard time "worshiping" your girlfriend. people do dumb things for people who don't even love them back, yet God gives you many chances to turn yourself into a loving person and people still show hate. God doesn't need the haters.
if your child filed for emancipation, would you cut them out of your will and never speak to them again out of spite?
im quite capable of being a loving person without reading the bible.
loving god and others is not a hard thing. worshiping a 2000 year old dead man and blind allegiance to an ancient book and church that prescribe sexism, homophobia, slavery, and violence is what is hard.
then don't do it, but don't hate on a true Christian who tries to make themselves a loving person. people can accept rules at work, and follow their boss' outline, yet they can't accept a perfect God. go figure.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
then don't do it, but don't hate on a true Christian who tries to make themselves a loving person. people can accept rules at work, and follow their boss' outline, yet they can't accept a perfect God. go figure.
i dont hate on true christians who act with love. but i do challenge those who act hateful or prideful. i accept rules at work becos i will be fired if i dont. christianity offers one set of god-rules out of many different sets offered by dozens of religions. i see nothing in christianity that convinces me their path is a better one than that offered by the hindus or the one i have found for myself through a personal relationship with god.
by seeing some of your posts to some other people on this board, that might not be the case.
my god has both a sense of humor and a desire that people don't bullshit themselves or others. thus, i don't fuck around with kid gloves unless the situation truly calls for it. and i don't co-sign people's bullshit.
if your child filed for emancipation and followed another parent(the devil), yes.
then, again, that seems kinda petty to me. the love is not unconditional. it is conditioned upon you remaining devoted to worshiping him and not someone else. my child would still be in my will. i don't care where they went or who they were with.
i dont hate on true christians who act with love. but i do challenge those who act hateful or prideful. i accept rules at work becos i will be fired if i dont. christianity offers one set of god-rules out of many different sets offered by dozens of religions. i see nothing in christianity that convinces me their path is a better one than that offered by the hindus or the one i have found for myself through a personal relationship with god.
well, you have every right to challenge the ones who are hateful and prideful. i'd challenge that too. people just make God's rules out to be burdensome. i don't think it's too hard to:
1. Believe in Christ.
2. Love your neighbor.
you may not think Christianity is for you, that's fine. but if you're wrong, you'll have to live with the consequences. hey, it's YOUR life, right? live it up.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
then, again, that seems kinda petty to me. the love is not unconditional. it is conditioned upon you remaining devoted to worshiping him and not someone else. my child would still be in my will. i don't care where they went or who they were with.
it's remained upon loving HIM and not loving someone else who doesn't even have a care about you. lets say you have 3 children. 2 of them are upstanding and one of them puts you through hell. the one who puts you through hell listens to someone else who he considers a parental figure and convinces him to kill your other two children. i bet you're going to leave a lot in your will to him, huh.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
my god has both a sense of humor and a desire that people don't bullshit themselves or others. thus, i don't fuck around with kid gloves unless the situation truly calls for it. and i don't co-sign people's bullshit.
fair enough.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
This may be a bit off topic and I don't mean to derail the thread but I always find that it's perfectly acceptable to mock christianity but not any other religion. It just kind of bother me sometimes. But I'm sure it has to do with the fact that christianity is the most practiced religion. Popularity will leave you open to mockery i guess.
These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
I will say that I disagree with everything you believe.
i won't say i disagree with everything you believe, but i'll say that i disagree with everything you believe about God.
And actually when I did believe in God was the most tragic period of my life. Since I told God off and went my own way I've found greater happiness.
even the devil tried to make a deal with Jesus:
Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, "All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me."(Matthew 4:8,9)
at least you're happy.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
I'm still looking for someone to get down to brass tax here and explain how one can determine their own will. If that is as I suspect and is an impossibility then this whole idea of good vs evil, heaven vs hell is simply an illusion put forth by Christianity.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
This may be a bit off topic and I don't mean to derail the thread but I always find that it's perfectly acceptable to mock christianity but not any other religion. It just kind of bother me sometimes. But I'm sure it has to do with the fact that christianity is the most practiced religion. Popularity will leave you open to mockery i guess.
i don't care if people mock my Christian beliefs. as i see it, and what i believe, every idle word is taken down by My God. i'm proud to be a Christian and i'll take ALL of the attacks. it actually makes me happy and stronger.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
I'm still looking for someone to get down to brass tax here and explain how one can determine their own will. If that is as I suspect and is an impossibility then this whole idea of good vs evil, heaven vs hell is simply an illusion put forth by Christianity.
you don't need the answers, mr. ahnimus. you don't believe so just let it go. if you truly want an answer, search your scientists, they have all of the answers to your questions.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
I can do what I will: I can, if I will, give everything I have to the poor and thus become poor myself — if I will! But I cannot will this, because the opposing motives have much too much power over me for me to be able to. On the other hand, if I had a different character, even to the extent that I were a saint, then I would be able to will it. But then I could not keep from willing it, and hence I would have to do so.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
[A]s little as a ball on a billiard table can move before receiving an impact, so little can a man get up from his chair before being drawn or driven by a motive. But then his getting up is as necessary and inevitable as the rolling of a ball after the impact. And to expect that anyone will do something to which absolutely no interest impels them is the same as to expect that a piece of wood shall move toward me without being pulled by a string.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
you don't need the answers, mr. ahnimus. you don't believe so just let it go. if you truly want an answer, search your scientists, they have all of the answers to your questions.
In other words you don't have an answer. Will is the fundamental force that causes our behavior/beliefs if you can't explain it, then you can't expect people to use it in your way.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I can do what I will: I can, if I will, give everything I have to the poor and thus become poor myself — if I will! But I cannot will this, because the opposing motives have much too much power over me for me to be able to. On the other hand, if I had a different character, even to the extent that I were a saint, then I would be able to will it. But then I could not keep from willing it, and hence I would have to do so.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
[A]s little as a ball on a billiard table can move before receiving an impact, so little can a man get up from his chair before being drawn or driven by a motive. But then his getting up is as necessary and inevitable as the rolling of a ball after the impact. And to expect that anyone will do something to which absolutely no interest impels them is the same as to expect that a piece of wood shall move toward me without being pulled by a string.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.(Colossians 2:8)
it's too bad many people will believe you. at this rate you won't be getting into the kingdom of heaven, but the worst part is your deceiving others who read your posts, and you may shut them out as well.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
In other words you don't have an answer. Will is the fundamental force that causes our behavior/beliefs if you can't explain it, then you can't expect people to use it in your way.
oh, believe me, i HAVE the answers. i don't need to give someone the answer who doesn't believe. my focus isn't on you, mr. ahnimus. your heart is hardened. hopefully, some of my words have at least peaked the interest of others who will seek God out for themselves. God has ALL the answers, and you'll find them if you look.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
God has ALL the answers, and you'll find them if you look.
Where should we look? Inbetween the bodies of the women massacred during the churches "witch hunts"? Should we look in the pockets of the vatican that are filled wih money that could help the starving across the world? SHould we look in the backrooms of churches where priests fuck children in secret? Should we look between the graves of slaves whom the church decided to abandon in their stance of "non involvment" or perhaps the graves of the jewish peoples of Europe slaughtered by the nazi's where the church took the same stance? Should we look in these places? Im sure you'll not find the answer you think.
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well, you have every right to challenge the ones who are hateful and prideful. i'd challenge that too. people just make God's rules out to be burdensome. i don't think it's too hard to:
1. Believe in Christ.
2. Love your neighbor.
you may not think Christianity is for you, that's fine. but if you're wrong, you'll have to live with the consequences. hey, it's YOUR life, right? live it up.
1. is a total guess. you could insert allah, atman, bramin, buddha, or anyone else in there. again, why is your conception of god more relevant? the fact that your god is so vain and petty is a huge reason i rank christianity as less compelling than many other religions. the god i believe in doesn't give a flying fuck who you worship or what name you call him or what book you read abotu it. as long as you're tuned in.
it's remained upon loving HIM and not loving someone else who doesn't even have a care about you. lets say you have 3 children. 2 of them are upstanding and one of them puts you through hell. the one who puts you through hell listens to someone else who he considers a parental figure and convinces him to kill your other two children. i bet you're going to leave a lot in your will to him, huh.
i would cut them out for committing murder, not for turning their back on me. likewise, i would expect god to bar hitler from heaven for murder, not pardon him just becos he said he believed in jesus while he murdered. i would not expect god to bar ghandi from heaven becos he rejected the bible and instead found his own way to worship god and bring peace and love into the world. likewise, if a child of mine raped and murdered all while saying he loved me, i would be hard pressed to keep them in the will or believe they truly did. one's actions speak far louder than one's words. a hindu who acts like jesus has more value than a christian who acts like hitler. if you understand god to be the opposite, to reject ghandi becos he picked the wrong religion but accept hitler becos he believed in jesus, then i am absolutely convinced your religion and beliefs are corrupt and twisted.
1. is a total guess. you could insert allah, atman, bramin, buddha, or anyone else in there. again, why is your conception of god more relevant? the fact that your god is so vain and petty is a huge reason i rank christianity as less compelling than many other religions. the god i believe in doesn't give a flying fuck who you worship or what name you call him or what book you read abotu it. as long as you're tuned in.
the amount of times I have said this to christians, my mother being one, is unreal. especially since they always ignore what is a good point. I'm glad I don't believe in a god because I'd hate to be one of these self righteous pricks who can't accept that maybe they sided with the wrong team. case in point, my mother's derision for jehovah's witnesses. she dismisses them as cult. what the hell does she think christianity is?
bear in mind that I say these things to her in good-humour, seeing as she is my mum and obviously I love her in spite of her obvious narrow-mindedness (and before you say that I'm narrow-minded too, unlike christians, I accept that I might be wrong but I still believe that I'm not)
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
yeah, lets talk; but it seems that I'M the one who's doing most of the talking. you don't even put your OWN beliefs out on the line. i don't even KNOW how you explain the creation and so forth. at least soulsinging gave me his views, and i appreciated him taking the time to do that. you, on the other hand, come in here and there and make your little comments and that's the extent of it.
I WOULD DIE FOR MY CHILDREN. i wouldn't send my only begotten son to do it. I would do it.
you fail to understand the scriptures, cate. Jesus and The Father are ONE. the gentlemen who quoted you first gave you a respectable answer. if God would show Himself to you He would blow your mortal body away.
my love for MY children is greater than any love i have ever felt. and greater than any love i will ever feel. NO ONE loves my children more than ME. NO ONE. is that arrogance?
yes, it's pride AND arrogance. that's the thing, you have that love for YOUR children. do you have that same love for another child? i doubt it. you don't have the perfect love of God. God loves your neighbor's children just as much as YOUR children. i bet you don't love your neighbors children as much as your own.
No, it is truth. and NO ONE would be prepared to sacrifice more for MY children than ME.
ultimately, they are God's children. you don't even know how they were formed in your womb. God blessed you with them and you're their caretaker on this earth. but you don't believe that, so what can i say.
your choice is to believe in a God. my choice is to believe in myself.
i agree with that. you control your own life, don't you????? believe in what you want. although, you don't even know where you came from or where your going. you're a gutsy girl.
every day i am reminded of how strong i am and how strong i continue to be despite the overwhelming urge i have not to be here.
i honestly feel for you, cate. i'm sorry. i hope you have many close friends in your area to support how you feel.
if MY children choose not to respect me or choose not to listen to me, that is their choice. I will not disown them, i will love them. I have unconditional love for my children regardless of their actions.
God feels the same way. He longs for people to come back to Him so together they can rejoice. i think i need to read the prodigal son again.
every good and bad choice i have ever made or will make is MY responsibility. I do not put it onto someone else, deity or human. don't sit there and tell me how hard done by God is. i don't care. he is intangible to me. and always will be.
you SHOULD take responsibility, they're YOUR choices. also, take my words how you want, i'm sharing my faith on this board. you can do the same, but you choose not to. finally, God can be intangible to you, and He can remain that way, but i personally wouldn't be surprised if He brings you down to your knees in your life. time will tell. much love, cate.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
Where should we look? Inbetween the bodies of the women massacred during the churches "witch hunts"? Should we look in the pockets of the vatican that are filled wih money that could help the starving across the world? SHould we look in the backrooms of churches where priests fuck children in secret? Should we look between the graves of slaves whom the church decided to abandon in their stance of "non involvment" or perhaps the graves of the jewish peoples of Europe slaughtered by the nazi's where the church took the same stance? Should we look in these places? Im sure you'll not find the answer you think.
i don't believe Christ taught that, but YOU KNOW and I KNOW the feelings and thoughts behind your posts. someone else can choose to answer your questions.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
i don't believe Christ taught that, but YOU KNOW and I KNOW the feelings and thoughts behind your posts. someone else can choose to answer your questions.
No of course Christ didnt teach those things, he never said it was ok but if you read between the lines the implication I was making was that jesus is an excuse used to justiy this horseshit and that the whole concept of religion is nothing more than a means o perpetuate hatred, genocide, intolerance and supression of freedom. Oh and nice touch choosing not to adress these points, cause thats what every christian says, "well jesus didn't teach these things, its just a few bad apples".
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1. is a total guess. you could insert allah, atman, bramin, buddha, or anyone else in there. again, why is your conception of god more relevant? the fact that your god is so vain and petty is a huge reason i rank christianity as less compelling than many other religions. the god i believe in doesn't give a flying fuck who you worship or what name you call him or what book you read abotu it. as long as you're tuned in.
i believe it's not:
if you want the answer you'll have to look it up:
Romans 1:20-22
just don't believe, it's as simple as that. just believe in your God. i can accept you feeling that way.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
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I am not my own god, the idea of any god is an afront to the notion of freedom sand individuality and I would subject no person to such a cruel bondage. I have also no need to save myself from the boogie man, or the devil or whatever you call him, tough if the bible is anything to go by then the devil is probably a woman what with her being responsible for original sin, I mean we can't have a man making a mistake now can we?
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what's so petty about loving a God who created you? you wouldn't even have a life to start with without God. it's simple: you deny Him, He'll deny you. i think it's petty that people deny God. did you create yourself? i don't think so. people keep saying worship, but it's about LOVING God. i'm sure you don't have a hard time "worshiping" your girlfriend. people do dumb things for people who don't even love them back, yet God gives you many chances to turn yourself into a loving person and people still show hate. God doesn't need the haters.
if your child filed for emancipation, would you cut them out of your will and never speak to them again out of spite?
im quite capable of being a loving person without reading the bible.
then don't do it, but don't hate on a true Christian who tries to make themselves a loving person. people can accept rules at work, and follow their boss' outline, yet they can't accept a perfect God. go figure.
by seeing some of your posts to some other people on this board, that might not be the case.
i dont hate on true christians who act with love. but i do challenge those who act hateful or prideful. i accept rules at work becos i will be fired if i dont. christianity offers one set of god-rules out of many different sets offered by dozens of religions. i see nothing in christianity that convinces me their path is a better one than that offered by the hindus or the one i have found for myself through a personal relationship with god.
if your child filed for emancipation and followed another parent(the devil), yes.
my god has both a sense of humor and a desire that people don't bullshit themselves or others. thus, i don't fuck around with kid gloves unless the situation truly calls for it. and i don't co-sign people's bullshit.
then, again, that seems kinda petty to me. the love is not unconditional. it is conditioned upon you remaining devoted to worshiping him and not someone else. my child would still be in my will. i don't care where they went or who they were with.
well, you have every right to challenge the ones who are hateful and prideful. i'd challenge that too. people just make God's rules out to be burdensome. i don't think it's too hard to:
1. Believe in Christ.
2. Love your neighbor.
you may not think Christianity is for you, that's fine. but if you're wrong, you'll have to live with the consequences. hey, it's YOUR life, right? live it up.
it's remained upon loving HIM and not loving someone else who doesn't even have a care about you. lets say you have 3 children. 2 of them are upstanding and one of them puts you through hell. the one who puts you through hell listens to someone else who he considers a parental figure and convinces him to kill your other two children. i bet you're going to leave a lot in your will to him, huh.
fair enough.
Actually, going against the grain, so to speak, leaves you open to mockery.
i won't say i disagree with everything you believe, but i'll say that i disagree with everything you believe about God.
even the devil tried to make a deal with Jesus:
Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, "All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me."(Matthew 4:8,9)
at least you're happy.
i don't care if people mock my Christian beliefs. as i see it, and what i believe, every idle word is taken down by My God. i'm proud to be a Christian and i'll take ALL of the attacks. it actually makes me happy and stronger.
you don't need the answers, mr. ahnimus. you don't believe so just let it go. if you truly want an answer, search your scientists, they have all of the answers to your questions.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
[A]s little as a ball on a billiard table can move before receiving an impact, so little can a man get up from his chair before being drawn or driven by a motive. But then his getting up is as necessary and inevitable as the rolling of a ball after the impact. And to expect that anyone will do something to which absolutely no interest impels them is the same as to expect that a piece of wood shall move toward me without being pulled by a string.
– Arthur Schopenhauer
In other words you don't have an answer. Will is the fundamental force that causes our behavior/beliefs if you can't explain it, then you can't expect people to use it in your way.
Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.(Colossians 2:8)
it's too bad many people will believe you. at this rate you won't be getting into the kingdom of heaven, but the worst part is your deceiving others who read your posts, and you may shut them out as well.
oh, believe me, i HAVE the answers. i don't need to give someone the answer who doesn't believe. my focus isn't on you, mr. ahnimus. your heart is hardened. hopefully, some of my words have at least peaked the interest of others who will seek God out for themselves. God has ALL the answers, and you'll find them if you look.
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1. is a total guess. you could insert allah, atman, bramin, buddha, or anyone else in there. again, why is your conception of god more relevant? the fact that your god is so vain and petty is a huge reason i rank christianity as less compelling than many other religions. the god i believe in doesn't give a flying fuck who you worship or what name you call him or what book you read abotu it. as long as you're tuned in.
i would cut them out for committing murder, not for turning their back on me. likewise, i would expect god to bar hitler from heaven for murder, not pardon him just becos he said he believed in jesus while he murdered. i would not expect god to bar ghandi from heaven becos he rejected the bible and instead found his own way to worship god and bring peace and love into the world. likewise, if a child of mine raped and murdered all while saying he loved me, i would be hard pressed to keep them in the will or believe they truly did. one's actions speak far louder than one's words. a hindu who acts like jesus has more value than a christian who acts like hitler. if you understand god to be the opposite, to reject ghandi becos he picked the wrong religion but accept hitler becos he believed in jesus, then i am absolutely convinced your religion and beliefs are corrupt and twisted.
bear in mind that I say these things to her in good-humour, seeing as she is my mum and obviously I love her in spite of her obvious narrow-mindedness (and before you say that I'm narrow-minded too, unlike christians, I accept that I might be wrong but I still believe that I'm not)
yeah, lets talk; but it seems that I'M the one who's doing most of the talking. you don't even put your OWN beliefs out on the line. i don't even KNOW how you explain the creation and so forth. at least soulsinging gave me his views, and i appreciated him taking the time to do that. you, on the other hand, come in here and there and make your little comments and that's the extent of it.
you fail to understand the scriptures, cate. Jesus and The Father are ONE. the gentlemen who quoted you first gave you a respectable answer. if God would show Himself to you He would blow your mortal body away.
yes, it's pride AND arrogance. that's the thing, you have that love for YOUR children. do you have that same love for another child? i doubt it. you don't have the perfect love of God. God loves your neighbor's children just as much as YOUR children. i bet you don't love your neighbors children as much as your own.
ultimately, they are God's children. you don't even know how they were formed in your womb. God blessed you with them and you're their caretaker on this earth. but you don't believe that, so what can i say.
i agree with that. you control your own life, don't you????? believe in what you want. although, you don't even know where you came from or where your going. you're a gutsy girl.
i honestly feel for you, cate. i'm sorry. i hope you have many close friends in your area to support how you feel.
God feels the same way. He longs for people to come back to Him so together they can rejoice. i think i need to read the prodigal son again.
you SHOULD take responsibility, they're YOUR choices. also, take my words how you want, i'm sharing my faith on this board. you can do the same, but you choose not to. finally, God can be intangible to you, and He can remain that way, but i personally wouldn't be surprised if He brings you down to your knees in your life. time will tell. much love, cate.
i don't believe Christ taught that, but YOU KNOW and I KNOW the feelings and thoughts behind your posts. someone else can choose to answer your questions.
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i believe it's not:
if you want the answer you'll have to look it up:
Romans 1:20-22
just don't believe, it's as simple as that. just believe in your God. i can accept you feeling that way.