Seniority is goin DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

KingmidgetKingmidget Posts: 628
edited March 2008 in The Porch
Yippee

And I actually have a damn good #, but I'm pumped to see some new faces up front!

If it doesn't happen I'll find a way to get them up there..with my tickets.

Don't PM... I'm talkin newbies and others who don't waste time here like me! ;)

Got a nephew Front Row in Minneapolis @ TP and PJ in '06 and I took 24th...so awesome to watch the look on his face.

Great memories.
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  • vital5vital5 Posts: 5,486
    Kingmidget wrote:
    Yippee

    And I actually have a damn good #, but I'm pumped to see some new faces up front!

    If it doesn't happen I'll find a way to get them up there..with my tickets.

    Don't PM... I'm talkin newbies and others who don't waste time here like me! ;)

    Got a nephew Front Row in Minneapolis @ TP and PJ in '06 and I took 24th...so awesome to watch the look on his face.

    Great memories.
    I've only taken people who will love it to first and second row seats.... it is extra special for me knowing someone else is loving it as much as i am;)
  • I miss seniority + getting to the venue 8 hours before a show to get the first few rows.

    I miss the fun of talking to fans, playing football, and bbqing in line.

    I always took someone that would love seeing the show from the fan seat perspective. It was awesome in 2003 sitting row 2 or 3 a few times after driving all night to see the band. In 2006 it was weird driving across the country and getting 50th row. Then driving again and getting the same.

    It may be greedy to say "i wanna be close", but I think that if you put your heart into it for 7 shows a tour and drive 4000 miles to see them, you should be able to be closer than 50th row.

    I have seen pj 17 times and have been in row 2 once, row 5 or 6 a couple of times. Each time I was close I waited in line for 10 or 12 hours when we did block seating. It was so much fun to wait in line and hang out with everyone. I truly miss the bbq's and hanging with the people that go to multiple shows and trading storys and playing guitar with them.

    It feels like a past time
    07-02-98, 10-11-00, 04-22-03, 04-23-03, 06-09-03, 06-10-03, 06-18-03, 06-21-03, 06-22-03, 10-02-04, 10-03-04, 10-05-04, 05-16-06, 05-17-06, 05-22-06, 06-24-06, 06-29-06
  • leedog0leedog0 Posts: 152
    The closest I've been was row 20. I am usually on the sides. (10c #206xxx) being on the floor was a whole new experience. During the show, I walked up to about row 5 to take a few pictures - my eyes were as big as my open mouth. To see them that close was amazing, and the crowd was incredible!

    Just once would i like to experience that.
    8/26/98 - 9/2/00 - 4/28/03 - 7/5/03 - 7/6/03 - 10/3/05 - 5/22/06 - 5/27/06 - 5/28/06 - 6/1/06 - 6/3/06 - 6/24/06 - 7/7/06 - 7/9/06 - 7/10/06 - 8/5/07 - 6/19/08 - 6/20/08 - 6/22/08 - 6/24/08 - 6/25/08 - 8/21/09 - 8/23/09 - 8/24/09 - 10/27/09 - 10/28/09 - 10/30/09 - 10/31/09 - 5/6/10 - 5/7/10 - 5/9/10 - 5/20/10 - 5/21/10 - 9/3/11 - 9/4/11 - 9/2/12 - 7/19/13 - 10/11/13 - 10/18/13 - 10/19/13 - 10/21/13 - 10/22/13 - 4/28/16 - 4/29/16 - 8/20/18 - 4/7/18
    Ed Ved Solo:
    4-10-08 / 4-12-08 / 4-13-08 / 8-16-08 / 6-11-09 / 6-12-09 / 6-14-09 / 6-25-11
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  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    Being close is amazing, and to those people who bring other people up front with them at seniority shows deserve the utmost respect and kudos for it. I've only been close at GA shows irving lolla and the vic, 2 of which were truly an amazing experience :)

    And to the block seating comment, I whole heartedly agree, my first show was block seating and it was the closest ive ever had with senority seats, cuz i got there early. You get to see the hard core fans and hang out whith them when you have to wait in line :)
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    I've never been close. Not within the 1st 20 rows.

    Dallas '98 - upper deck
    Dallas '00 - Lawn
    Dallas '03 - about row 20
    Boston I '04 - Row 25 Floor
    Boston II '04 - Lower Bowl
    Montreal '05 - Lower Bowl
    Ottawa '05 - Row 30 - Floor
    Philly I & II '06 - Section 200
    Chicago Vic - 2nd section on the floor
    Lollapalooza - somewhere in the sea of people
    DAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    been in the club for over 10 years...never been closer than 20th row
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    been in the club for over 10 years...never been closer than 20th row


    You live in the city with the highest concentration of 10 club members I bet!
    DAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • a5pja5pj Posts: 3,896
    been in the club for over 10 years...never been closer than 20th row


    close for me too - for senority based shows i joined around '99
    Wouldn't it be funny if the world ended in 2010, with lots of fire?



  • maverickmaverick Posts: 1,208
    a5pj wrote:
    close for me too - for senority based shows i joined around '99


    You just have to go to shows other than the Philly, NY, NJ, Boston area. I'm from 15 miles up the road and joined the same time as you did. If you want first row, go to Saskatoon, St. John's, Bologna, or Verona like I did. The travel experience will be well worth it. If you want first 10 rows, go most anywhere south of PA, inc. DC.

    The volume of 10C members in the Northeast is incredible, and many travel to multiple shows, so to get closer, you must travel further. Again, many of my most memorable experiences have been the furthest trips (Seattle, Western Canada, Newfoundland, and Italy).
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    maverick wrote:
    You just have to go to shows other than the Philly, NY, NJ, Boston area. I'm from 15 miles up the road and joined the same time as you did. If you want first row, go to Saskatoon, St. John's, Bologna, or Verona like I did. The travel experience will be well worth it. If you want first 10 rows, go most anywhere south of PA, inc. DC.

    The volume of 10C members in the Northeast is incredible, and many travel to multiple shows, so to get closer, you must travel further. Again, many of my most memorable experiences have been the furthest trips (Seattle, Western Canada, Newfoundland, and Italy).


    This was my plan for 2006 but work got in the way and they didn't tour to small places like in 2003, so I was forced to choose Philly.

    If they ever do a full US tour again, my ass will be going to the smallest places on the schedule.
    DAL-7/5/98,10/17/00,6/9/03,11/15/13
    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
    KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
    PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
    OKC-11/16/13
    SEA-12/6/13
    TUL-10/8/14
  • Hooray for selfish people like me. Screw the newbies.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Posts: 2,549
    Seniority is not headed towards extinction.

    The Ed solo shows constitute an special situation. Because the venues are small, Ten Club probably has a limited number of tickets for members.

    Seniority will be back when Pearl Jam tours arenas and amphis.

    .
    Memphis 1994
    New Orleans 1995
    Fort Lauderdale 1996
    Atlanta & Birmingham 1998
    New Orleans 2000
    Tampa 2003
    Kissimmee 2004
    New York City (x 2) 2008
    East Troy (x 2) 2011
    Chicago & New Orleans 2013
    Hampton, Raleigh, Boston 2016
    Baltimore 2020
    Louisville 2022
    Philadelphia & Baltimore 2024
  • Kingmidget wrote:
    Yippee

    And I actually have a damn good #, but I'm pumped to see some new faces up front!

    If it doesn't happen I'll find a way to get them up there..with my tickets.

    Don't PM... I'm talkin newbies and others who don't waste time here like me! ;)

    Got a nephew Front Row in Minneapolis @ TP and PJ in '06 and I took 24th...so awesome to watch the look on his face.

    Great memories.

    Very refreshing to hear you say that. I never understood seniority seating, the idea that someone desreves the best seats every show because they are older than me. Oh, so sorry I did not sign up for the Ten club when I was 11!
  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    Very refreshing to hear you say that. I never understood seniority seating, the idea that someone desreves the best seats every show because they are older than me. Oh, so sorry I did not sign up for the Ten club when I was 11!

    it's not because they are older than you, it's because they have actively supported the band for a longer period of time. nothing personal.

    and i've never understood the whole passage of time thing, the idea that people who were here before me got to do things that i didn't get to do. oh, so sorry my parents didn't have sex earlier!


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  • Hooray for selfish people like me. Screw the newbies.

    That's what's wrong with most of the PJ fans I met at Lolla, that "better-than" attitude. Whose to say just because you've been a member of 10C longer that makes you a bigger fan.......

    I don't get it.......

    I think all 10C tickets should be done in lottery fashion, allowing new fans just as old an equal oppurtunity to get the most awesome seating.

    btw: I was 10th row Mike's side at Lolla, I just pushed and shoved my way up there, screw you "better-than" types......
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • The best seat ive had was Grand Rapids 06 show. I had 15 row floor. I hear that was just because ten club messed up the seniority for that show. I wish they would do that more often.
    besides that show im normally nose bleed.
    Shows:
    San Diego 2003
    Grand Rapids 2004
    Grand Rapids 2006
    Detroit 2006
    Columbus 2010

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  • I just pushed and shoved my way up there, screw you .....

    That's a great attitude to have as well. :rolleyes:
    "Fuck the talkin', let's start rocking." - E.V. 9-5-00

    8/25/98, 8/21/00, 9/5/00, 4/26/03, 5/3/03, 6/24/03, 9/28/05, 10/03/05, 5/20/06, 6/23/06, EV 8/16/08, EV 6/18/09, 5/20/10, 9/15/11, 10/11/13, 10/27/13, 10/1/14, 8/20/16, 8/22/16, TOTD 11/7/16, 8/18/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/11/22, 9/14/22, 8/26/24, 9/12/24, 9/27/24, 9/29/24
  • That's a great attitude to have as well. :rolleyes:

    maybe you are right, but I learned a long time ago: if you let people push you around they will, just push back and most people will let you pass
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • PegasusPegasus Posts: 3,754
    been in the club for over 10 years...never been closer than 20th row
    man, you're depressing me :(
    having never been farther than 10 yards from the front barrier (and that was the 2 shows I didn't have 10c tickets for and Verona..everything else including festivals was front row), I'm dreading the shit seats I'll get in the US :(

    I'd prefer 10 rows up on the side to 20 on the floor though.. being only 5'6"
  • I was talking about this the other day, and it got me thinking...

    Personally, i think if you're front row for most of the shows you go to then you're missing out. Yes, its frickin' awesome to get front row and see the band that close. You feel a connection when one of the band members glances at you, as if you're the only one there. It's a great feeling.

    But, i think it loses its special-'ness' if you strive to get the front row every single time. I've been lucky enough to get front row for Lisbon 1 2006, Milano 2006 and Copenhagen 2007. It was great, but the best experiences i had were at shows when i was further back. It's so much more intense and rockin' to be in the midst of a crowd with everyone around you jumping up and down with you. If you're against the front rail, it's not as easy to jump around because everyone behind you is squashing you.

    I really really advise those who seem like they 'need' to be front row every single show, just for once to step back and just go to a show and see where you end up in the crowd. You'd be surprised how good it is.

    As i've only been to shows in Europe, i noticed that most shows were dominated by the same contingent of people who got to the venue super early and they almost had a kind of 'monopoly' on the front row. Ed must think it's nice when he looks out and sees familiar faces, but i bet it'd rev his engine to see some new faces.

    Grand Rapids '06 is the perfect example of how good it can be when there are new faces up front. The front was full of maniacs who had never seen the band that close and so they went nuts, and the band just loved it. Yet, there was absolute chaos on the forum with people ranting like crazed lunatics about how much 10c fucked up. It's a GOOD thing they fucked up that night.
    "This town deserves a better class of criminal... and I'm gonna give it to them."

  • maverick wrote:
    You just have to go to shows other than the Philly, NY, NJ, Boston area. I'm from 15 miles up the road and joined the same time as you did. If you want first row, go to Saskatoon, St. John's, Bologna, or Verona like I did. The travel experience will be well worth it. If you want first 10 rows, go most anywhere south of PA, inc. DC.

    The volume of 10C members in the Northeast is incredible, and many travel to multiple shows, so to get closer, you must travel further. Again, many of my most memorable experiences have been the furthest trips (Seattle, Western Canada, Newfoundland, and Italy).

    We have been to some of the same shows. St John's was great and while in Italy I managed to make it front row twice.. Torino and Pistoia :D

    Pistoia was a beautiful night. I don't have a great number so I was lucky to manage those spots. Probably won't happen again but I was luckier than some and I enjoyed it so much :)
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,935
    BinGnarly wrote:
    The best seat ive had was Grand Rapids 06 show. I had 15 row floor. I hear that was just because ten club messed up the seniority for that show. I wish they would do that more often.
    besides that show im normally nose bleed.

    speaking as someone who sat front row on the floor, 4 seats off center, for the Grand Rapids/06 show i can tell you the 10C ticket incident there was NOT the result of the 10C "messing up". on the band's REQUEST, 10C re-allocated tickets to shuffle-out the same faces they'd seen at EVERY prior show up front in order to shuffle-in some fresh faces and a fresh vibe to the show,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • SOLAT319 wrote:
    The only time I was front row was Maui 98 first night, some asshole kicked me in the head and I got my nose broken. So, screw front row.


    eeshk, not a great memory then!
    "This town deserves a better class of criminal... and I'm gonna give it to them."

  • That's what's wrong with most of the PJ fans I met at Lolla, that "better-than" attitude. Whose to say just because you've been a member of 10C longer that makes you a bigger fan.......

    I don't get it.......

    I think all 10C tickets should be done in lottery fashion, allowing new fans just as old an equal oppurtunity to get the most awesome seating.

    btw: I was 10th row Mike's side at Lolla, I just pushed and shoved my way up there, screw you "better-than" types......

    You're right, someone that just joined should get better seats than someone that's been in the club since the beginning. That makes perfect sense in bizarro world.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
    -The Replacements-
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Seniority only makes sense. It is a reward for years of loyalty. Just like season tickets in sports. You move closer as people in front of you let their season tickets lapse. It is a pretty straightforward concept. I was a pretty early 10c member. I let my membership lapse for a few years, and finally renewed again in 2003. My number is much higher than it was and I'm sitting farther back. Makes sense to me that the people who stuck with the club during that same time are now sitting closer.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • I have been in the front and in the back in small places (VIC) and in big (Rio).
    As most of you will agree... it is all about the music not the seat you sit in.
    There are upcoming shows to get excited about.... lets not waste our energy on talking about seats.
    We are VERY lucky the the 10c continues to bless us with these opportunities to get seats before the public.... lets spend our time thanking them for that not discussing how seats should be allocated.
  • maybe you are right, but I learned a long time ago: if you let people push you around they will, just push back and most people will let you pass
    let people push you around? better than attitude? if people were there before you then you have no right to push past them... show some patience and respect for your fellow fans and im sure youd get the same in return... i ran to my spot at lolla the second the gates opened and i was there all day despite almost passing out, so i especially take offense to people like you... its real hypocritical to say people think theyre better than others and then think youre entitled to push your way as close as you want
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    jfconnorjr wrote:
    I have been in the front and in the back in small places (VIC) and in big (Rio).
    As most of you will agree... it is all about the music not the seat you sit in.
    There are upcoming shows to get excited about.... lets not waste our energy on talking about seats.
    We are VERY lucky the the 10c continues to bless us with these opportunities to get seats before the public.... lets spend our time thanking them for that not discussing how seats should be allocated.

    Completely disagree. If I'm paying good money for a ticket, it really is all about the view so that I see the show. If it was just about the music I'd listen to the studio or bootleg releases on my stereo on a comfy couch with a beer in my hand. For me it is about the music, combined with the show on stage.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • You're right, someone that just joined should get better seats than someone that's been in the club since the beginning. That makes perfect sense in bizarro world.

    What if you're like me, been a fan since day one but never joined the 10C????

    So I should be overlooked because I haven't been in the 10C from the very beginning.......

    That doesn't make me any less of a fan, does it?

    I think not.......
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    What if you're like me, been a fan since day one but never joined the 10C????

    So I should be overlooked because I haven't been in the 10C from the very beginning.......

    That doesn't make me any less of a fan, does it?

    I think not.......

    It's not about being a bigger or better fan. It is about having joined a club for a reason. Can you walk out onto the local country club golf course for a round just because you were born in the area? Nope. You need to be a member.

    You might be the biggest fan the band has (I have no way to measure that), but this isn't about that. This is about having been a member of a club which offers a section of tickets to its members. The longer you've been a member, the closer you'll sit. Just like sports. You could be a diehard Giants fan since the day you dropped out of your mom, but that doesn't mean you get row 1 on the 50 yard line just because you show up. Sorry.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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