Comparative Religion: Godmen

Ahnimus

PJammin' wrote:

for someone who doesn't believe in God or religion, you sure do love to post about it.

I was posting about Godmen, Gods, not one God. Your God is just one of the many myths, and notice I did not include Jesus Christ or Yehweh (YHWH) Jehovah or anything of that sort in my post. I actually cut out a lot of what was originally in the text because it was focused on proving Christianity was a myth. It was quite deliberate and harsh, so I typed it all out, paraphrasing and removing the parts I thought were harsh or directed at Christianity.

catefrances

lucylespian wrote:

I can definitely do the robe thing, and there may be chanting. Way to cold to be naked, probably.

I'm really thinknig of a burning man, maybe I can stuff cracker in a few places so he goes off a bit at a time, or little petrol bombs.

PAgans need to reclaim their festivals , sort of in teh vein of ...

"Charles Manson stole this from the Beatles, we're stealing it back "

god it's like you're reading my mind man. i was thinking of bungers or tom thumbs going off in the bonfire as well.

oh i think so too lucy. we all need to reconnect with mother earth.

lucylespian

catefrances wrote:

god it's like you're reading my mind man. i was thinking of bungers or tom thumbs going off in the bonfire as well.

oh i think so too lucy. we all need to reconnect with mother earth.

I'm prety lucky with regard to that connection. I don't live in an urban area, I swim in the ocean frequently, I experience mud on a daily basis ( not always welcome, might I add), horseshit is part of my daily communion wiht the Earth and I love digging up weeds !!!!!
A friend of mine used to have big bonfires at his rural retreat and throw bullets in teh fire. People would freak and run like mad, but they just fizz a bit as teh casing comes apaart and the powder burns.
A box of matches wrapped in insulation tape is much more impressive and actually goes bang !!!

PJammin'

Ahnimus wrote:

I was posting about Godmen, Gods, not one God. Your God is just one of the many myths, and notice I did not include Jesus Christ or Yehweh (YHWH) Jehovah or anything of that sort in my post.

no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it. whether you think my God is a myth or not doesn't really matter to me. i'll be the first one to admit i'm wrong when the age ends.

catefrances

lucylespian wrote:

I'm prety lucky with regard to that connection. I don't live in an urban area, I swim in the ocean frequently, I experience mud on a daily basis ( not always welcome, might I add), horseshit is part of my daily communion wiht the Earth and I love digging up weeds !!!!!
A friend of mine used to have big bonfires at his rural retreat and throw bullets in teh fire. People would freak and run like mad, but they just fizz a bit as teh casing comes apaart and the powder burns.
A box of matches wrapped in insulation tape is much more impressive and actually goes bang !!!

AWESOME!!! let me share that with my nine year old son. :rolleyes:


i like mud and i love the ocean. i love being barefoot and feeling the earth breathe beneath my feet. lying in clover and staring up at the sky.

Bu2

PJammin' wrote:

no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it.

It annoyed me that ahnimus was always talking about theology....especially when I wanted to talk about nothing but politics.

But I've come to learn that Ahnimus is a seeker, of sorts. A seeker of the truth. Ahnimus is a person who is driven to take one subject and tear it into the teeniest pieces one can tear things into, and then analyse every little teeny part of every tiny little bit in the hopes that, eventually, everything will make sense.

I do the same with politics. Gets me nowhere, but I enjoy the journey.

Without Ahnimus, this board wouldn't have half the knowledge of theism that it has. I've come to appreciate this a great deal.

*EDIT* I am changing the following: "Ahnimus is a person who needs to...." to "Ahnimus is a person who is driven to". Otherwise, I seem to be inflecting some kind of weakness in Ahnimus, and I don't think he'd appreciate that.

*winks at Ahn in a conspiratorial fashion, even though I don't know the guy*

lucylespian

catefrances wrote:

AWESOME!!! let me share that with my nine year old son. :rolleyes:


i like mud and i love the ocean. i love being barefoot and feeling the earth breathe beneath my feet. lying in clover and staring up at the sky.

All good things. You know it you cut teh striker stip off teh box and slide it inside the box so it is resting up agains the match ehads, then stuff the box really full of matches, then wrap teh box in tape, you can make a littel cracker that explodes gently when you throw in on the ground.

I dropped one at a skating rink once, and it was hilarious to watch everyone fall over as teh matches tripped tehm up.

catefrances

lucylespian wrote:

All good things. You know it you cut teh striker stip off teh box and slide it inside the box so it is resting up agains the match ehads, then stuff the box really full of matches, then wrap teh box in tape, you can make a littel cracker that explodes gently when you throw in on the ground.

I dropped one at a skating rink once, and it was hilarious to watch everyone fall over as teh matches tripped tehm up.

you're such a boy, lucy.

Ahnimus

PJammin' wrote:

no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it. whether you think my God is a myth or not doesn't really matter to me. i'll be the first one to admit i'm wrong when the age ends.

I'm interested in theology. I never was before. When I joined this board about I was interested in politics, specifically the Palestine-Israel conflict, then I dug into the 9/11 conspiracy, Freemasonry, the Illuminati, I picked up the debate on Free-will, theology and a whole mess of other interests. You'll notice I don't often stick to one topic I rotate through them because I become easily distracted by other interests. Prior to this book on theology I was reading a book about the brain and a book about philosophy before that, and developmental psychology before that. I take interest in just about everything, true or not.

Bu2 is right as well. I like to go deeper and deeper into issues. I couldn't just think about particles floating around, I had to know how the brain works on the most fundamental level, how quantum physics plays a role and all that stuff. I'm relatively satisfied with my current knowledge, but my picture of reality is constantly expanding. So who knows, I may have more annoying things to talk about.

PJammin'

Bu2 wrote:

But I've come to learn that Ahnimus is a seeker, of sorts. A seeker of the truth. Ahnimus is a person who needs to take one subject and tear it into the teeniest pieces one can tear things into, and then analyse every little teeny part of every tiny little bit in the hopes that, eventually, everything will make sense.

:cool:

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

So who knows, I may have more annoying things to talk about.

hope so ryan. i know you make me think sometimes more than i like to.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

hope so ryan. i know you make me think sometimes more than i like to.

hehe, most of what I've learned is thanks to the board members challenging my views. It may not seem apparent, but I've gone from thinking my mind controls matter, to thinking matter controls my mind in the year or so I've frequented this board. It may seem strange that, that could occur when virtually no one else here thinks as I do, but alas, that is the results thus far.

catefrances

Ahnimus wrote:

hehe, most of what I've learned is thanks to the board members challenging my views. It may not seem apparent, but I've gone from thinking my mind controls matter, to thinking matter controls my mind in the year or so I've frequented this board. It may seem strange that, that could occur when virtually no one else here thinks as I do, but alas, that is the results thus far.

oh i understand. i call that the 'oh that's just crap, that can't be right' mechanism.
you read something or soemone says something and it seems wrong somehow. so you go read and find knowledge you were unaware of previously. and what you find adds credence to your view.

Ahnimus

catefrances wrote:

oh i understand. i call that the 'oh that's just crap, that can't be right' mechanism.
you read something or soemone says something and it seems wrong somehow. so you go read and find knowledge you were unaware of previously. and what you find adds credence to your view.

It either adds credence or causes me to alter my view, such was the case of converting from complete philosophical libertarianism to hard determinism. Although I'll admit that I wasn't that strong in my libertarian view, and it was actually my brother that provided compelling evidence to the contrary. Now I just don't see any evidence in it's favour.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

well...he could have...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RBKTo5K14M

soon i discovered that this rock thing was true
jerry lee lewis was the devil
jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
all of a sudden, i found myself in love with the world
so there was only one thing that i could do
was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long

ding dang a dong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime i try to do it all now baby
am i on the run
why why why why why baby
if it's so evil then?
give me my time, with all my power
give it to me all again (wow)
ding a ding a dang a dong dong ding dong
every where i go

everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?

ding ding donga dong dong ding dong
dingy dingy son of a gun
half my time i tell you baby
never am I all for sure
why why why why why baby
sicky sicky from within
everytime I stick my finger on in ya
you're a wild wild little town bitch
now how 'bout ding a dang dong dong dong ling long
dingy a dingy dong a down

everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?

in my dang a ding a ding a ding dong
a sticky sticky son of a gun
ding a danga danga dong dong ding dong
why why never know
why why wack a dong a dang ding dong
then you take it on the bill
ding dang dong don't dong
whoa!

i wanna love ya!

why why why, why why darling
do you do you tell me to play?
half the time I talk about it all now baby
you know what I'm talkin' about I said
why why why it'll
ticky ticky ticky ticky
son of a gun
ding ding dong a bong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun

bing bing bang a bang a bang bing bong bing a bing bang a bong
binga bing a bang a bong bong bing bong bing banga bong

bing bing bang a bong bong bing bing binga binga banga bong
bing bing bang a bang bang bing bong

aarrrhhhh...

ding dang a dang bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime I try to do it all now baby
am I on the run
why why why
it'll ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky
dawn of a gun
bing bing bang a bong a bong bing bang a
ticky ticky thought of a gun
bing bip bip a bop bop boom bam
ticky ticky through the day

if you got a doubt 'bout baby
the memory is on the bed
why why why why why
darlin' uh it don't know
when my time is on
might tell me never do it on his own
if my time was all as is yours
make me burn a wish
when my time with you is brutish
no I'll never not ever

why why why why why why baby heavy hell
alone and it's here it's this thunder
the thunder oh thunder
oh!

jesus built my car
it's a love affair
mainly jesus and my hot rod

yeah, fuck it!

Jeanie

Bu2 wrote:

elephant.

Other than that, I totally agree with all of you.

Bu, isn't that Ganesh? He's an elephant.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

Bu, isn't that Ganesh? He's an elephant.

he's also hindu. not buddhist.

Bu2

catefrances wrote:

he's also hindu. not buddhist.

....It would be nice to have a whole memory, sometimes.

Ganesh, Buddha, Jesus, Schmeezus......I think the point here, people, is that they were all one and the same.

Um, I think.

decides2dream

truthbeknown.....is this a division of wikipedia?
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.

Ahnimus

decides2dream wrote:

truthbeknown.....is this a division of wikipedia?
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.

Hey, I'm a skeptic too, and I checked this out before I bought her book. My only complaint with her style is that she is very aggressive. As stated before I edited the text transcribed from her book to make it less aggressive towards Christianity, the book it's self is called The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, but that shouldn't negate any truth to it.

wikipedia wrote:

Acharya S is classically educated in archaeology, history, mythology and languages. Her formal training includes a Bachelor of Liberal Arts degree in Classics, Greek Civilization, from Franklin and Marshall College. She also attended the American School of Classical Studies at Athens in Greece.

She is a fellow of the Committee for the Scientific Examination of Religion, a division of the Council for Secular Humanism.

While preserving her privacy, she has been interviewed on a variety of radio stations. In an interview she said she came from a moderate Christian background. Though not traumatic or "Fundamentalist", she described it as "boring" and said she ceased attending church regularly at age 12.

Her inspiration for exploring the Jesus myth theory was reportedly Joseph Wheless's book Forgery in Christianity. She then read other works, such as Kersey Graves' The World's 16 Crucified Saviours, and Barbara Walker's The Woman's Encyclopaedia of Myth and Secrets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acharya_s

Some of the languages she speaks include Greek and she has studied the Greek scriptures, she has also been involved in various digs around the world. You can watch an interview with her at http://www.truthbeknown.com in the upper-right corner of the main page, where she addresses some of the criticisms about her book.