Comparative Religion: Godmen

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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    how interesting that you speak of peace and love and religion basically in the same sentence. the problem i have with religion besides the faulty premises it purports as truths, is how it has been co-opted for the supposed good and how that inevitably turns into a detriment. so much blood has been shed in the name of religion that it makes it difficult at times to see it as a good thing. my God is better than your God. my God is the one true God. isn't it enough people have faith. when did it turn into a pissing contest?

    peace and love applies to ALL regardless of race religion gender age or nationality.
    i dont know when it turned into a pissing contest and its sad it did. these so called religious people in dc drove me away from religion, i used to go to church when i needed some help in life and faith in life, now i gave up on religion. and i wasnt that much of religious person to begin with. im like u i wish it was enough for people to have faith and for people to not go into false wars based on a god. if i say i go to chruch these days, people think im some bush loving person
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    no u get banned cause u say stupid shit like in your response to my post all the time on here and then u cry wolf and wonder why u get banned. like i said in the post i wasnt looking for a board fight nor will i stoop to your childish ways

    Did you think I was baiting you with that comment? I don't say anything stupider than you and I don't use any harsher language. I just have a world view that most do not share, including the board moderators, so it's easier for people to 'see' that I am the 'childish' one. If you could take a 3rd person perspective and look at your own comments Mets... "I wasn't looking for a fight... I just wanted to talk shit and not get a response." then you cry wolf when you do get a response...
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i dont know when it turned into a pissing contest and its sad it did. these so called religious people in dc drove me away from religion, i used to go to church when i needed some help in life and faith in life, now i gave up on religion. and i wasnt that much of religious person to begin with. im like u i wish it was enough for people to have faith and for people to not go into false wars based on a god. if i say i go to chruch these days, people think im some bush loving person

    oh you misunderstand me mets. as an atheist, i wish there was no such thing as religion. but my thinking is if you're gonna do the religion thing one would think it wiser to stick together rather than go in for all that dessension that splits it apart.
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Did you think I was baiting you with that comment? I don't say anything stupider than you and I don't use any harsher language. I just have a world view that most do not share, including the board moderators, so it's easier for people to 'see' that I am the 'childish' one. If you could take a 3rd person perspective and look at your own comments Mets... "I wasn't looking for a fight... I just wanted to talk shit and not get a response." then you cry wolf when you do get a response...
    yes i did, u bait people all the time with comments like that on here.yes i did want a response but i wasnt looking for the response u gave me, i was looking for a response like the one cate gave me
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Bu2 wrote:
    elephant.

    Other than that, I totally agree with all of you.

    I don't know anything about that, but I know that "Buddha" was more than one person, the name is commonly used in reference to Gotama/Gautama Buddha, but the myths refer to many different Buddhas.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    yes i did, u bait people all the time with comments like that on here.yes i did want a response but i wasnt looking for the response u gave me, i was looking for a response like the one cate gave me

    careful what you wish for. :)
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    yes i did, u bait people all the time with comments like that on here.yes i did want a response but i wasnt looking for the response u gave me, i was looking for a response like the one cate gave me

    Well... I wasn't looking for your comments either :P
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    oh you misunderstand me mets. as an atheist, i wish there was no such thing as religion. but my thinking is if you're gonna do the religion thing one would think it wiser to stick together rather than go in for all that dessension that splits it apart.
    thats cool, i knew where u were coming from cate. why stick with something when everyone just bashes it all the time, its gulit by assocation if your religious these days
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't know anything about that, but I know that "Buddha" was more than one person, the name is commonly used in reference to Gotama/Gautama Buddha, but the myths refer to many different Buddhas.

    Here we are, as per wikipedia:

    On the night Siddhartha(Gotama/Gautama Buddha) was conceived, Queen Maya dreamt that a white elephant with six white tusks entered her right side, and ten lunar months later Siddhartha was born from her right side
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautama_Buddha#Conception_and_birth
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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Well... I wasn't looking for your comments either :P
    thank u very much acting in a childish way, way to prove my previous post. im outt here for the night, gonna watch some hockey.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    thank u very much acting in a childish way, way to prove my previous post. im outt here for the night, gonna watch some hockey.

    lol, All I've done Mets is paraphrase what you said to me.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Here we are, as per wikipedia:

    On the night Siddhartha(Gotama/Gautama Buddha) was conceived, Queen Maya dreamt that a white elephant with six white tusks entered her right side, and ten lunar months later Siddhartha was born from her right side

    Well done. Oh, and there's another story, about a lotus....or was it a tree?

    The thing that most stuck out, in my mind, when I read the book about Buddha (and damned if I can remember the name of it, but it was published around 1940), was that somewhere around the age of 33, he went out on a carriage ride with his father and saw poor people for the first time. He saw death, and decay. And it bothered him. He went home and he pondered it for a few hours. And then suddenly he saw that all is meaningless, as dust, except for enlightenment. His realizations were basically The Sermon on the Mount mixed with Ecclesiastes, except that there was a lotus in there somewhere....and an elephant.

    But otherwise, I still agree with you!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    thats cool, i knew where u were coming from cate. why stick with something when everyone just bashes it all the time, its gulit by assocation if your religious these days

    no, you dont appear to know where i'm coming from based on the above comment.
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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    knowing me, what do you think lucy?

    I would not presume to know what you think, but I am guessing you are saying you are too thick skinned to let words upset you.
    It's not that stuff that gets me.
    I have a client who has been probably falsely accused having sex with a 15 yr girl, (he is 78) and his life is presently a hell made by a few simple words.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Bu2 wrote:
    Well done. Oh, and there's another story, about a lotus....or was it a tree?

    The thing that most stuck out, in my mind, when I read the book about Buddha (and damned if I can remember the name of it, but it was published around 1940), was that somewhere around the age of 33, he went out on a carriage ride with his father and saw poor people for the first time. He saw death, and decay. And it bothered him. He went home and he pondered it for a few hours. And then suddenly he saw that all is meaningless, as dust, except for enlightenment. His realizations were basically The Sermon on the Mount mixed with Ecclesiastes, except that there was a lotus in there somewhere....and an elephant.

    But otherwise, I still agree with you!

    Was it the Lotus Sutra, pertaining to Sakyamuni Buddha?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Sutra
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Was it the Lotus Sutra, pertaining to Sakyamuni Buddha?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Sutra

    Only, I prefer the Kama Sutra...
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Before I start a new thread about it, does anyone recall a thread about the movie "Deliver Us From Evil" about Father Oliver O'Grady that molested/raped a bunch of kids as young as 6 years old, meanwhile the Catholic Heirarchy just moved him around California knowing that he was raping kids?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    I would not presume to know what you think, but I am guessing you are saying you are too thick skinned to let words upset you.
    It's not that stuff that gets me.
    I have a client who has been probably falsely accused having sex with a 15 yr girl, (he is 78) and his life is presently a hell made by a few simple words.

    way way off base luce. i am well aware of the damage words can do. i am not thick skinned at all. but if someone is gonna start a war of words with me they better bring it cause i will bury them without remorse. :D

    i don't think people realise what harm words can do to the psyche.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Before I start a new thread about it, does anyone recall a thread about the movie "Deliver Us From Evil" about Father Oliver O'Grady that molested/raped a bunch of kids as young as 6 years old, meanwhile the Catholic Heirarchy just moved him around California knowing that he was raping kids?

    oh shit ryan. i just saw the lovely father oliver on telly the other night. i can't remember the context though, dammit.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    i don't think people realise what harm words can do to the psyche.

    Or, what harm psyche can do to words. Like psychosis, I get in trouble for using the word, but it's not meant to harm, nor is the word Idiot, Queer, Faggot, etc.. etc... it's social psyches that harm the words by interpreting the words as harmful.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    It states on the main AMT page that Ahnimus posted last. But when I go to the bottom of the last page, it's Cate's post.

    ?

    *EDIT* Sorry, my PC is slow (no comments from the peanut gallery, please)
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Or, what harm psyche can do to words. Like psychosis, I get in trouble for using the word, but it's not meant to harm, nor is the word Idiot, Queer, Faggot, etc.. etc... it's social psyches that harm the words by interpreting the words as harmful.

    it's the intent with which the word is delivered ryan.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    oh shit ryan. i just saw the lovely father oliver on telly the other night. i can't remember the context though, dammit.

    I just watched the move last night, sad, sad movie. I almost cried and I'm a cold-hearted bastard.

    http://www.deliverusfromevilthemovie.com/index_flash.php
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    way way off base luce. :D

    i don't think people realise what harm words can do to the psyche.

    Exactly why I did not want to presume to know your thoughts !

    I don't think I will be smearing mud on my face, but i might be smearing cheese on crackers, does that count ?????????
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Exactly why I did not want to presume to know your thoughts !

    I don't think I will be smearing mud on my face, but i might be smearing cheese on crackers, does that count ?????????

    NO! it does not.

    though you may get points if you're naked or in a robe. :D
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I watched a video last night of a girl that was kicked out of school in Arlington for claiming to be an atheist.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I watched a video last night of a girl that was kicked out of school in Arlington for claiming to be an atheist.

    Oops it was Oklahoma

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2vf_nijscc
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    for someone who doesn't believe in God or religion, you sure do love to post about it.
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  • PJammin'PJammin' Posts: 1,902
    you're not gonna irradicate religion and it will take a personal crisis for a believer to change his/her ways.

    God will always be around, so ryan will just have to get used to it. :)
    I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    NO! it does not.

    though you may get points if you're naked or in a robe. :D


    I can definitely do the robe thing, and there may be chanting. Way to cold to be naked, probably.

    I'm really thinknig of a burning man, maybe I can stuff cracker in a few places so he goes off a bit at a time, or little petrol bombs.

    PAgans need to reclaim their festivals , sort of in teh vein of ...

    "Charles Manson stole this from the Beatles, we're stealing it back "
    Music is not a competetion.
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