for someone who doesn't believe in God or religion, you sure do love to post about it.
I was posting about Godmen, Gods, not one God. Your God is just one of the many myths, and notice I did not include Jesus Christ or Yehweh (YHWH) Jehovah or anything of that sort in my post. I actually cut out a lot of what was originally in the text because it was focused on proving Christianity was a myth. It was quite deliberate and harsh, so I typed it all out, paraphrasing and removing the parts I thought were harsh or directed at Christianity.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
god it's like you're reading my mind man. i was thinking of bungers or tom thumbs going off in the bonfire as well.
oh i think so too lucy. we all need to reconnect with mother earth.
I'm prety lucky with regard to that connection. I don't live in an urban area, I swim in the ocean frequently, I experience mud on a daily basis ( not always welcome, might I add), horseshit is part of my daily communion wiht the Earth and I love digging up weeds !!!!!
A friend of mine used to have big bonfires at his rural retreat and throw bullets in teh fire. People would freak and run like mad, but they just fizz a bit as teh casing comes apaart and the powder burns.
A box of matches wrapped in insulation tape is much more impressive and actually goes bang !!!
I was posting about Godmen, Gods, not one God. Your God is just one of the many myths, and notice I did not include Jesus Christ or Yehweh (YHWH) Jehovah or anything of that sort in my post.
no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it. whether you think my God is a myth or not doesn't really matter to me. i'll be the first one to admit i'm wrong when the age ends.
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
I'm prety lucky with regard to that connection. I don't live in an urban area, I swim in the ocean frequently, I experience mud on a daily basis ( not always welcome, might I add), horseshit is part of my daily communion wiht the Earth and I love digging up weeds !!!!!
A friend of mine used to have big bonfires at his rural retreat and throw bullets in teh fire. People would freak and run like mad, but they just fizz a bit as teh casing comes apaart and the powder burns. A box of matches wrapped in insulation tape is much more impressive and actually goes bang !!!
AWESOME!!! let me share that with my nine year old son. :rolleyes:
i like mud and i love the ocean. i love being barefoot and feeling the earth breathe beneath my feet. lying in clover and staring up at the sky.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it.
It annoyed me that ahnimus was always talking about theology....especially when I wanted to talk about nothing but politics.
But I've come to learn that Ahnimus is a seeker, of sorts. A seeker of the truth. Ahnimus is a person who is driven to take one subject and tear it into the teeniest pieces one can tear things into, and then analyse every little teeny part of every tiny little bit in the hopes that, eventually, everything will make sense.
I do the same with politics. Gets me nowhere, but I enjoy the journey.
Without Ahnimus, this board wouldn't have half the knowledge of theism that it has. I've come to appreciate this a great deal.
*EDIT* I am changing the following: "Ahnimus is a person who needs to...." to "Ahnimus is a person who is driven to". Otherwise, I seem to be inflecting some kind of weakness in Ahnimus, and I don't think he'd appreciate that.
*winks at Ahn in a conspiratorial fashion, even though I don't know the guy*
AWESOME!!! let me share that with my nine year old son. :rolleyes:
i like mud and i love the ocean. i love being barefoot and feeling the earth breathe beneath my feet. lying in clover and staring up at the sky.
All good things. You know it you cut teh striker stip off teh box and slide it inside the box so it is resting up agains the match ehads, then stuff the box really full of matches, then wrap teh box in tape, you can make a littel cracker that explodes gently when you throw in on the ground.
I dropped one at a skating rink once, and it was hilarious to watch everyone fall over as teh matches tripped tehm up.
All good things. You know it you cut teh striker stip off teh box and slide it inside the box so it is resting up agains the match ehads, then stuff the box really full of matches, then wrap teh box in tape, you can make a littel cracker that explodes gently when you throw in on the ground.
I dropped one at a skating rink once, and it was hilarious to watch everyone fall over as teh matches tripped tehm up.
you're such a boy, lucy.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it. whether you think my God is a myth or not doesn't really matter to me. i'll be the first one to admit i'm wrong when the age ends.
I'm interested in theology. I never was before. When I joined this board about I was interested in politics, specifically the Palestine-Israel conflict, then I dug into the 9/11 conspiracy, Freemasonry, the Illuminati, I picked up the debate on Free-will, theology and a whole mess of other interests. You'll notice I don't often stick to one topic I rotate through them because I become easily distracted by other interests. Prior to this book on theology I was reading a book about the brain and a book about philosophy before that, and developmental psychology before that. I take interest in just about everything, true or not.
Bu2 is right as well. I like to go deeper and deeper into issues. I couldn't just think about particles floating around, I had to know how the brain works on the most fundamental level, how quantum physics plays a role and all that stuff. I'm relatively satisfied with my current knowledge, but my picture of reality is constantly expanding. So who knows, I may have more annoying things to talk about.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
But I've come to learn that Ahnimus is a seeker, of sorts. A seeker of the truth. Ahnimus is a person who needs to take one subject and tear it into the teeniest pieces one can tear things into, and then analyse every little teeny part of every tiny little bit in the hopes that, eventually, everything will make sense.
:cool:
I died. I died and you just stood there. I died and you watched. I died and you walked by and said no. I'm dead.
hope so ryan. i know you make me think sometimes more than i like to.
hehe, most of what I've learned is thanks to the board members challenging my views. It may not seem apparent, but I've gone from thinking my mind controls matter, to thinking matter controls my mind in the year or so I've frequented this board. It may seem strange that, that could occur when virtually no one else here thinks as I do, but alas, that is the results thus far.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
hehe, most of what I've learned is thanks to the board members challenging my views. It may not seem apparent, but I've gone from thinking my mind controls matter, to thinking matter controls my mind in the year or so I've frequented this board. It may seem strange that, that could occur when virtually no one else here thinks as I do, but alas, that is the results thus far.
oh i understand. i call that the 'oh that's just crap, that can't be right' mechanism.
you read something or soemone says something and it seems wrong somehow. so you go read and find knowledge you were unaware of previously. and what you find adds credence to your view.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
oh i understand. i call that the 'oh that's just crap, that can't be right' mechanism.
you read something or soemone says something and it seems wrong somehow. so you go read and find knowledge you were unaware of previously. and what you find adds credence to your view.
It either adds credence or causes me to alter my view, such was the case of converting from complete philosophical libertarianism to hard determinism. Although I'll admit that I wasn't that strong in my libertarian view, and it was actually my brother that provided compelling evidence to the contrary. Now I just don't see any evidence in it's favour.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
soon i discovered that this rock thing was true
jerry lee lewis was the devil
jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
all of a sudden, i found myself in love with the world
so there was only one thing that i could do
was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
ding dang a dong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime i try to do it all now baby
am i on the run
why why why why why baby
if it's so evil then?
give me my time, with all my power
give it to me all again (wow)
ding a ding a dang a dong dong ding dong
every where i go
everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?
ding ding donga dong dong ding dong
dingy dingy son of a gun
half my time i tell you baby
never am I all for sure
why why why why why baby
sicky sicky from within
everytime I stick my finger on in ya
you're a wild wild little town bitch
now how 'bout ding a dang dong dong dong ling long
dingy a dingy dong a down
everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?
in my dang a ding a ding a ding dong
a sticky sticky son of a gun
ding a danga danga dong dong ding dong
why why never know
why why wack a dong a dang ding dong
then you take it on the bill
ding dang dong don't dong
whoa!
i wanna love ya!
why why why, why why darling
do you do you tell me to play?
half the time I talk about it all now baby
you know what I'm talkin' about I said
why why why it'll
ticky ticky ticky ticky
son of a gun
ding ding dong a bong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
bing bing bang a bang a bang bing bong bing a bing bang a bong
binga bing a bang a bong bong bing bong bing banga bong
bing bing bang a bong bong bing bing binga binga banga bong
bing bing bang a bang bang bing bong
aarrrhhhh...
ding dang a dang bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime I try to do it all now baby
am I on the run
why why why
it'll ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky
dawn of a gun
bing bing bang a bong a bong bing bang a
ticky ticky thought of a gun
bing bip bip a bop bop boom bam
ticky ticky through the day
if you got a doubt 'bout baby
the memory is on the bed
why why why why why
darlin' uh it don't know
when my time is on
might tell me never do it on his own
if my time was all as is yours
make me burn a wish
when my time with you is brutish
no I'll never not ever
why why why why why why baby heavy hell
alone and it's here it's this thunder
the thunder oh thunder
oh!
jesus built my car
it's a love affair
mainly jesus and my hot rod
yeah, fuck it!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
truthbeknown.....is this a division of wikipedia?
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.
truthbeknown.....is this a division of wikipedia?
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.
Hey, I'm a skeptic too, and I checked this out before I bought her book. My only complaint with her style is that she is very aggressive. As stated before I edited the text transcribed from her book to make it less aggressive towards Christianity, the book it's self is called The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, but that shouldn't negate any truth to it.
Acharya S is classically educated in archaeology, history, mythology and languages. Her formal training includes a Bachelor of Liberal Arts degree in Classics, Greek Civilization, from Franklin and Marshall College. She also attended the American School of Classical Studies at Athens in Greece.
She is a fellow of the Committee for the Scientific Examination of Religion, a division of the Council for Secular Humanism.
While preserving her privacy, she has been interviewed on a variety of radio stations. In an interview she said she came from a moderate Christian background. Though not traumatic or "Fundamentalist", she described it as "boring" and said she ceased attending church regularly at age 12.
Her inspiration for exploring the Jesus myth theory was reportedly Joseph Wheless's book Forgery in Christianity. She then read other works, such as Kersey Graves' The World's 16 Crucified Saviours, and Barbara Walker's The Woman's Encyclopaedia of Myth and Secrets.
Some of the languages she speaks include Greek and she has studied the Greek scriptures, she has also been involved in various digs around the world. You can watch an interview with her at http://www.truthbeknown.com in the upper-right corner of the main page, where she addresses some of the criticisms about her book.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
truthbeknown.....is this a division of wikipedia?
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.
Usually scholars of religion are quoting other scholars, who are quoting and interpreting other scholars who are reflecting on shit people made up.
Usually scholars of religion are quoting other scholars, who are quoting and interpreting other scholars who are reflecting on shit people made up.
Acharya quotes Wheless and Waite a lot in her book. I guess there wouldn't be much else you can do. She also admits that she's only drawing from sources which are readily available to her. Although she claims that much of the literature is not found in typical libraries either. Such as:
John Bale (1495-1563), The Pageant of the Popes: "For on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: All ages can testify enough how profitable that fable of Christ hath been to us and our company."
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Acharya quotes Wheless and Waite a lot in her book. I guess there wouldn't be much else you can do. She also admits that she's only drawing from sources which are readily available to her. Although she claims that much of the literature is not found in typical libraries either. Such as:
John Bale (1495-1563), The Pageant of the Popes: "For on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: All ages can testify enough how profitable that fable of Christ hath been to us and our company."
I wasn't really referring to her, I was more referring to theologians.
I am always fascinated by teh accounts of names and habits of demons whihc can be found in religious writings. I mean seriously, where did that info come from in teh first place ??? Who went ot Hell and sorted out teh nomenclature ?? Is there a demon version of Mus musculus ?? Or was there just a bit too much mushroom in the monastery stew ??
I wasn't really referring to her, I was more referring to theologians.
I am always fascinated by teh accounts of names and habits of demons whihc can be found in religious writings. I mean seriously, where did that info come from in teh first place ??? Who went ot Hell and sorted out teh nomenclature ?? Is there a demon version of Mus musculus ?? Or was there just a bit too much mushroom in the monastery stew ??
Confabulation is a process whereby the brain fills-in blanks, turning imagination into perceived reality. It seems to me at this point that all of religion is confabulation.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Horus/Osiris of Egypt
• Born of the Virgin Isis-Meri on Dec. 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being anounced by a star in the east and attended by 3 wise men.
• His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph")
• He was of Royal descent
• At age 12, he was a child teacher in the temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years
• Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana by "Anup the Baptizer", who was decapitated
• He had 12 disciples, two of which were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan
• He performed miracles, exercised demons and raised El-Azarus from the dead
• Horus walked on water
• His personal epithet was "Iusa", the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah" the "Father". He was thus called the "Holy Child"
• He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayins of Iusa"
• Horus was transfigured on the mount
• He was crucified between two theives, burried for three days in a tomb and resurrected
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light", "Messiah", "God's Anointed Son", "Son of Man", the "Good Shephard", the "Lamb of God", the "Word made flesh", the "Word of Truth", etc.
• He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion
• He came to fulfill the Law
• Horus was called "the KRST" or "Anointed One"
• Like Jesus "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years"
What's your source on this one? I studied ancient egyptian history a little bit in final years of high school, and my understanding of the mythology is pretty different to this. I'll have to read up a bit to make sure though, it was a while ago.
The first thing that I noticed is that you seem to be equating Horus with Osiris. From memory Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis, not the equivalent of Osiris. I do recall that he was something of a holy child that walked the earth kind of deal. . . . don't remember anything about a crucifiction. He's usually represented with the head of a falcon, often with a sun disk above him, so he's related to the sun, a bit of a predecessor to Amun, who was later combined with the sun god Ra.
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
Confabulation is a process whereby the brain fills-in blanks, turning imagination into perceived reality. It seems to me at this point that all of religion is confabulation.
Actually, close, but no banana.
Confabulation is actually where you pull an actual memory and use it to fill in a blank. People with dementia do this to cover the lack of new memories.
Actually, close, but no banana.
Confabulation is actually where you pull an actual memory and use it to fill in a blank. People with dementia do this to cover the lack of new memories.
Umm, perhaps we've read different literature. I understand your meaning. But firstly, I define imagination as drawing from memory. I could have no imagination involving bananas had I no knowledge/memory of bananas.
So, in the case of Anton-Babinski Syndrome, a person is completely blind in their visual striate cortex, but they claim to see anyway. Their brain confabulates what they see. They do not actually see. Although some visual input does bypass the LGN and V1 and some patients have better-than-chance abilities to read Xs or Os from cards. They do still trip over furniture and claim to see things that do not exist in reality. I call this confabulation from imagination/memory as is how the term is used by Francis Crick amongst others.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
What's your source on this one? I studied ancient egyptian history a little bit in final years of high school, and my understanding of the mythology is pretty different to this. I'll have to read up a bit to make sure though, it was a while ago.
The first thing that I noticed is that you seem to be equating Horus with Osiris. From memory Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis, not the equivalent of Osiris. I do recall that he was something of a holy child that walked the earth kind of deal. . . . don't remember anything about a crucifiction. He's usually represented with the head of a falcon, often with a sun disk above him, so he's related to the sun, a bit of a predecessor to Amun, who was later combined with the sun god Ra.
The source is Acharya, though I'm not sure if she is claiming that they are the same, or perhaps identify the relation or suggesting they share the same characteristics. Wikipedia says that Osiris was the father of Horus. However, these characters are mythological and I've no doubt that they did share many of the same characteristics, especially over time as the characters developed. It's quite difficult to find congruent mythology on-line.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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I was posting about Godmen, Gods, not one God. Your God is just one of the many myths, and notice I did not include Jesus Christ or Yehweh (YHWH) Jehovah or anything of that sort in my post. I actually cut out a lot of what was originally in the text because it was focused on proving Christianity was a myth. It was quite deliberate and harsh, so I typed it all out, paraphrasing and removing the parts I thought were harsh or directed at Christianity.
god it's like you're reading my mind man.
oh i think so too lucy. we all need to reconnect with mother earth.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I'm prety lucky with regard to that connection. I don't live in an urban area, I swim in the ocean frequently, I experience mud on a daily basis ( not always welcome, might I add), horseshit is part of my daily communion wiht the Earth and I love digging up weeds !!!!!
A friend of mine used to have big bonfires at his rural retreat and throw bullets in teh fire. People would freak and run like mad, but they just fizz a bit as teh casing comes apaart and the powder burns.
A box of matches wrapped in insulation tape is much more impressive and actually goes bang !!!
no matter if you're posting about my God or Gods in general, you still seem to want to post about it. whether you think my God is a myth or not doesn't really matter to me. i'll be the first one to admit i'm wrong when the age ends.
AWESOME!!! let me share that with my nine year old son. :rolleyes:
i like mud and i love the ocean. i love being barefoot and feeling the earth breathe beneath my feet. lying in clover and staring up at the sky.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
It annoyed me that ahnimus was always talking about theology....especially when I wanted to talk about nothing but politics.
But I've come to learn that Ahnimus is a seeker, of sorts. A seeker of the truth. Ahnimus is a person who is driven to take one subject and tear it into the teeniest pieces one can tear things into, and then analyse every little teeny part of every tiny little bit in the hopes that, eventually, everything will make sense.
I do the same with politics. Gets me nowhere, but I enjoy the journey.
Without Ahnimus, this board wouldn't have half the knowledge of theism that it has. I've come to appreciate this a great deal.
*EDIT* I am changing the following: "Ahnimus is a person who needs to...." to "Ahnimus is a person who is driven to". Otherwise, I seem to be inflecting some kind of weakness in Ahnimus, and I don't think he'd appreciate that.
*winks at Ahn in a conspiratorial fashion, even though I don't know the guy*
All good things. You know it you cut teh striker stip off teh box and slide it inside the box so it is resting up agains the match ehads, then stuff the box really full of matches, then wrap teh box in tape, you can make a littel cracker that explodes gently when you throw in on the ground.
I dropped one at a skating rink once, and it was hilarious to watch everyone fall over as teh matches tripped tehm up.
you're such a boy, lucy.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I'm interested in theology. I never was before. When I joined this board about I was interested in politics, specifically the Palestine-Israel conflict, then I dug into the 9/11 conspiracy, Freemasonry, the Illuminati, I picked up the debate on Free-will, theology and a whole mess of other interests. You'll notice I don't often stick to one topic I rotate through them because I become easily distracted by other interests. Prior to this book on theology I was reading a book about the brain and a book about philosophy before that, and developmental psychology before that. I take interest in just about everything, true or not.
Bu2 is right as well. I like to go deeper and deeper into issues. I couldn't just think about particles floating around, I had to know how the brain works on the most fundamental level, how quantum physics plays a role and all that stuff. I'm relatively satisfied with my current knowledge, but my picture of reality is constantly expanding. So who knows, I may have more annoying things to talk about.
:cool:
hope so ryan. i know you make me think sometimes more than i like to.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
hehe, most of what I've learned is thanks to the board members challenging my views. It may not seem apparent, but I've gone from thinking my mind controls matter, to thinking matter controls my mind in the year or so I've frequented this board. It may seem strange that, that could occur when virtually no one else here thinks as I do, but alas, that is the results thus far.
oh i understand. i call that the 'oh that's just crap, that can't be right' mechanism.
you read something or soemone says something and it seems wrong somehow. so you go read and find knowledge you were unaware of previously. and what you find adds credence to your view.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
It either adds credence or causes me to alter my view, such was the case of converting from complete philosophical libertarianism to hard determinism. Although I'll admit that I wasn't that strong in my libertarian view, and it was actually my brother that provided compelling evidence to the contrary. Now I just don't see any evidence in it's favour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RBKTo5K14M
soon i discovered that this rock thing was true
jerry lee lewis was the devil
jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
all of a sudden, i found myself in love with the world
so there was only one thing that i could do
was ding a ding dang my dang a long ling long
ding dang a dong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime i try to do it all now baby
am i on the run
why why why why why baby
if it's so evil then?
give me my time, with all my power
give it to me all again (wow)
ding a ding a dang a dong dong ding dong
every where i go
everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?
ding ding donga dong dong ding dong
dingy dingy son of a gun
half my time i tell you baby
never am I all for sure
why why why why why baby
sicky sicky from within
everytime I stick my finger on in ya
you're a wild wild little town bitch
now how 'bout ding a dang dong dong dong ling long
dingy a dingy dong a down
everytime you tell me baby
when i settle down
got to get me a trailer park
and hold my world around
why why why why?
in my dang a ding a ding a ding dong
a sticky sticky son of a gun
ding a danga danga dong dong ding dong
why why never know
why why wack a dong a dang ding dong
then you take it on the bill
ding dang dong don't dong
whoa!
i wanna love ya!
why why why, why why darling
do you do you tell me to play?
half the time I talk about it all now baby
you know what I'm talkin' about I said
why why why it'll
ticky ticky ticky ticky
son of a gun
ding ding dong a bong bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
bing bing bang a bang a bang bing bong bing a bing bang a bong
binga bing a bang a bong bong bing bong bing banga bong
bing bing bang a bong bong bing bing binga binga banga bong
bing bing bang a bang bang bing bong
aarrrhhhh...
ding dang a dang bong bing bong
ticky ticky thought of a gun
everytime I try to do it all now baby
am I on the run
why why why
it'll ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky ticky
dawn of a gun
bing bing bang a bong a bong bing bang a
ticky ticky thought of a gun
bing bip bip a bop bop boom bam
ticky ticky through the day
if you got a doubt 'bout baby
the memory is on the bed
why why why why why
darlin' uh it don't know
when my time is on
might tell me never do it on his own
if my time was all as is yours
make me burn a wish
when my time with you is brutish
no I'll never not ever
why why why why why why baby heavy hell
alone and it's here it's this thunder
the thunder oh thunder
oh!
jesus built my car
it's a love affair
mainly jesus and my hot rod
yeah, fuck it!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Bu, isn't that Ganesh? He's an elephant.
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he's also hindu. not buddhist.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
....It would be nice to have a whole memory, sometimes.
Ganesh, Buddha, Jesus, Schmeezus......I think the point here, people, is that they were all one and the same.
Um, I think.
in all seriousness...people can say whatever they want to say, religion is based on FAITH. whether similarities exist or not, makes not a bit of difference for those who are faithful. if one is looking for historical significance/accuracy...tis another story entirely, but still doesn't make a difference for those who belive b/c they simply believe, thus why it's called FAITH. however, i am interested to know what 'scholars' contribute to this particular site, what's their background, etc...if they are to be considered reliable sources. of course, this is from a skeptic from the get go, i don't have any faith or lack there of to prove/disprove. i am more of the live and let liver...or believe or disbelieve...philosophy....not on any quest to have anyone follow my own personal philosophies.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Hey, I'm a skeptic too, and I checked this out before I bought her book. My only complaint with her style is that she is very aggressive. As stated before I edited the text transcribed from her book to make it less aggressive towards Christianity, the book it's self is called The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold, but that shouldn't negate any truth to it.
Some of the languages she speaks include Greek and she has studied the Greek scriptures, she has also been involved in various digs around the world. You can watch an interview with her at http://www.truthbeknown.com in the upper-right corner of the main page, where she addresses some of the criticisms about her book.
Usually scholars of religion are quoting other scholars, who are quoting and interpreting other scholars who are reflecting on shit people made up.
Acharya quotes Wheless and Waite a lot in her book. I guess there wouldn't be much else you can do. She also admits that she's only drawing from sources which are readily available to her. Although she claims that much of the literature is not found in typical libraries either. Such as:
John Bale (1495-1563), The Pageant of the Popes: "For on a time when a cardinall Bembus did move a question out of the Gospell, the Pope gave him a very contemptuous answer saying: All ages can testify enough how profitable that fable of Christ hath been to us and our company."
I wasn't really referring to her, I was more referring to theologians.
I am always fascinated by teh accounts of names and habits of demons whihc can be found in religious writings. I mean seriously, where did that info come from in teh first place ??? Who went ot Hell and sorted out teh nomenclature ?? Is there a demon version of Mus musculus ?? Or was there just a bit too much mushroom in the monastery stew ??
Confabulation is a process whereby the brain fills-in blanks, turning imagination into perceived reality. It seems to me at this point that all of religion is confabulation.
What's your source on this one? I studied ancient egyptian history a little bit in final years of high school, and my understanding of the mythology is pretty different to this. I'll have to read up a bit to make sure though, it was a while ago.
The first thing that I noticed is that you seem to be equating Horus with Osiris. From memory Horus was the son of Osiris and Isis, not the equivalent of Osiris. I do recall that he was something of a holy child that walked the earth kind of deal. . . . don't remember anything about a crucifiction. He's usually represented with the head of a falcon, often with a sun disk above him, so he's related to the sun, a bit of a predecessor to Amun, who was later combined with the sun god Ra.
-C Addison
Actually, close, but no banana.
Confabulation is actually where you pull an actual memory and use it to fill in a blank. People with dementia do this to cover the lack of new memories.
Umm, perhaps we've read different literature. I understand your meaning. But firstly, I define imagination as drawing from memory. I could have no imagination involving bananas had I no knowledge/memory of bananas.
So, in the case of Anton-Babinski Syndrome, a person is completely blind in their visual striate cortex, but they claim to see anyway. Their brain confabulates what they see. They do not actually see. Although some visual input does bypass the LGN and V1 and some patients have better-than-chance abilities to read Xs or Os from cards. They do still trip over furniture and claim to see things that do not exist in reality. I call this confabulation from imagination/memory as is how the term is used by Francis Crick amongst others.
The source is Acharya, though I'm not sure if she is claiming that they are the same, or perhaps identify the relation or suggesting they share the same characteristics. Wikipedia says that Osiris was the father of Horus. However, these characters are mythological and I've no doubt that they did share many of the same characteristics, especially over time as the characters developed. It's quite difficult to find congruent mythology on-line.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2266166128626497168
eh!! Teams again!!
I like ganesh! He's pretty!
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