Comparative Religion: Godmen
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Attis of Phrygia
• Born on Dec. 25 of the Virgin Nana
• Savior slain for the salvation of mankind
• His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers
• His priests were "eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven"
• He was the Divine Son and the Father
• On "Black Friday" he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth.
• He descended into the underworld
• After three days, Attis was resurrected on March 25th as the "Most High God"
Buddha
• Born on Dec. 25 of the Virgin Maya and his birth was attended by a "Star of Announcement", wise men and angels singing heavenly songs
• At birth, was pronounced ruler of the world and was presented with "costly jewels and precious substances"
• His life was threatened by a king "who was advised to destroy the child as he was liable to overthrow him"
• Buddha was of royal lineage
• He taught in the temple at 12
• He crushed a serpent's head and was tempted by Mara "the evil one" when fasting
• Buddha was baptized in water, with the "Spirit of God" or "Holy Spirit" present.
• He performed miracles and wonders, healed the sick, fed 500 men from a "small basket of cakes" and walked on water
• Buddha abolished idolatry, was a "sower of the word" and preached "the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness"
• His followers were obliged to take vows of poverty and to renounce the world
• He was transfigured on a mount, when it was said his face "shone as the brightness of the sun and the moon"
• In some traditions he died on a cross
• He was resurrected
• Buddha ascended bodily to Nirvana or "Heaven"
• He was called "Lord", "Master", the "light of the world", "God of Gods", "Father of the world", "Almighty and all-knowing ruler", "Redeemer of all", "Holy one", "Author of Happiness", "Possesser of All", the "Omnipotent", the "Supreme Being" and the "Eternal One"
• He was considered the "Sin Bearer", "Good Shephard", the "Carpenter", "Infinite and Everlasting" and the "Alpha and Omega"
• He came to fulfill, not destroy the law
• Buddha is to return "in the latter days" to restore order and to judge the dead
Dionysus/Bacchus
• Born of a virgin on Dec. 25 and as the holy child was placed in a manger
• He was a travelling teacher who performed miracles
• He "rode in a triumphal procession on an ass"
• He was a sacred king killed and eaten in a eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification
• Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25th
• He was the god of the vine and turned water into wine
• He was called "King of Kings" and "God of Gods"
• He was considered "The Only Begotten Son", the "Redeemer", "Savior", "Sin Bearer", "Anointed One" and the "Alpha and Omega"
• He was identified with the ram or lamb
• His sacrificial title of "Dendrites" or "Young Man of the Tree" intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified
Horus/Osiris of Egypt
• Born of the Virgin Isis-Meri on Dec. 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being anounced by a star in the east and attended by 3 wise men.
• His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph")
• He was of Royal descent
• At age 12, he was a child teacher in the temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years
• Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana by "Anup the Baptizer", who was decapitated
• He had 12 disciples, two of which were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan
• He performed miracles, exercised demons and raised El-Azarus from the dead
• Horus walked on water
• His personal epithet was "Iusa", the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah" the "Father". He was thus called the "Holy Child"
• He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayins of Iusa"
• Horus was transfigured on the mount
• He was crucified between two theives, burried for three days in a tomb and resurrected
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light", "Messiah", "God's Anointed Son", "Son of Man", the "Good Shephard", the "Lamb of God", the "Word made flesh", the "Word of Truth", etc.
• He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion
• He came to fulfill the Law
• Horus was called "the KRST" or "Anointed One"
• Like Jesus "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years"
Krishna/Christna of India
• Born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One") on Dec. 25
• His earthly father was a carpenter who was off in the city paying tax while Krishna was born
• His birth was signaled by a star in the east and attended by angels and shephards, at which time he was presented with spices
• The heavenly hosts danced and sang at his birth
• He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants
• Krishna was anointed on the head with oil by a woman whom he healed
• He is depicted as having his foot on the head of a serpent
• He worked miracles and wonders, raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind
• Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love, and "he lived poor and loved the poor"
• He castigated the clergy, charging them with ambition and hypocrisy... Tradition says he fell victim to their vengeance
• Krishna's "beloved disciple" was Arjuna or Ar-jouan (John)
• He was transfigured in-front of his disciples
• He gave his disciples the ability to work miracles
• His path was "strewn with branches"
• In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two theives
• Krishna was killed around age 30 and the sun darkened at his death
• He rose from the dead and ascended into heave in "the sight of all men"
• He was depicted on a cross with nail-holes in his feet, as well as a heart emblem on his clothing
• Krishna is the "lion of the tribe of Saki"
• He was called the "Shephard God", and considered "Redeemer", "Firstborn", "Sin Bearer", "Liberator" and "Universal Word"
• He was deemed the "Son of God" and "Our Lord and Savior", who came to earth to die for man's salvation
• He was the second person of the trinity
• His disciples purportedly bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus" or "Jeseus" meaning "pure essence"
• Krishna is to return to judge the dead, riding on a white horse and do battle with the "Prince of Evil" who will desolate the earth
Source: Acharya S (http://www.truthbeknown.com)
• Born on Dec. 25 of the Virgin Nana
• Savior slain for the salvation of mankind
• His body as bread was eaten by his worshippers
• His priests were "eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven"
• He was the Divine Son and the Father
• On "Black Friday" he was crucified on a tree, from which his holy blood ran down to redeem the earth.
• He descended into the underworld
• After three days, Attis was resurrected on March 25th as the "Most High God"
Buddha
• Born on Dec. 25 of the Virgin Maya and his birth was attended by a "Star of Announcement", wise men and angels singing heavenly songs
• At birth, was pronounced ruler of the world and was presented with "costly jewels and precious substances"
• His life was threatened by a king "who was advised to destroy the child as he was liable to overthrow him"
• Buddha was of royal lineage
• He taught in the temple at 12
• He crushed a serpent's head and was tempted by Mara "the evil one" when fasting
• Buddha was baptized in water, with the "Spirit of God" or "Holy Spirit" present.
• He performed miracles and wonders, healed the sick, fed 500 men from a "small basket of cakes" and walked on water
• Buddha abolished idolatry, was a "sower of the word" and preached "the establishment of a kingdom of righteousness"
• His followers were obliged to take vows of poverty and to renounce the world
• He was transfigured on a mount, when it was said his face "shone as the brightness of the sun and the moon"
• In some traditions he died on a cross
• He was resurrected
• Buddha ascended bodily to Nirvana or "Heaven"
• He was called "Lord", "Master", the "light of the world", "God of Gods", "Father of the world", "Almighty and all-knowing ruler", "Redeemer of all", "Holy one", "Author of Happiness", "Possesser of All", the "Omnipotent", the "Supreme Being" and the "Eternal One"
• He was considered the "Sin Bearer", "Good Shephard", the "Carpenter", "Infinite and Everlasting" and the "Alpha and Omega"
• He came to fulfill, not destroy the law
• Buddha is to return "in the latter days" to restore order and to judge the dead
Dionysus/Bacchus
• Born of a virgin on Dec. 25 and as the holy child was placed in a manger
• He was a travelling teacher who performed miracles
• He "rode in a triumphal procession on an ass"
• He was a sacred king killed and eaten in a eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification
• Dionysus rose from the dead on March 25th
• He was the god of the vine and turned water into wine
• He was called "King of Kings" and "God of Gods"
• He was considered "The Only Begotten Son", the "Redeemer", "Savior", "Sin Bearer", "Anointed One" and the "Alpha and Omega"
• He was identified with the ram or lamb
• His sacrificial title of "Dendrites" or "Young Man of the Tree" intimates he was hung on a tree or crucified
Horus/Osiris of Egypt
• Born of the Virgin Isis-Meri on Dec. 25 in a cave/manger with his birth being anounced by a star in the east and attended by 3 wise men.
• His earthly father was named "Seb" ("Joseph")
• He was of Royal descent
• At age 12, he was a child teacher in the temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years
• Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana by "Anup the Baptizer", who was decapitated
• He had 12 disciples, two of which were his "witnesses" and were named "Anup" and "Aan
• He performed miracles, exercised demons and raised El-Azarus from the dead
• Horus walked on water
• His personal epithet was "Iusa", the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah" the "Father". He was thus called the "Holy Child"
• He delivered a "Sermon on the Mount" and his followers recounted the "Sayins of Iusa"
• Horus was transfigured on the mount
• He was crucified between two theives, burried for three days in a tomb and resurrected
• He was also the "Way, the Truth, the Light", "Messiah", "God's Anointed Son", "Son of Man", the "Good Shephard", the "Lamb of God", the "Word made flesh", the "Word of Truth", etc.
• He was "the Fisher" and was associated with the Fish ("Ichthys"), Lamb and Lion
• He came to fulfill the Law
• Horus was called "the KRST" or "Anointed One"
• Like Jesus "Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years"
Krishna/Christna of India
• Born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One") on Dec. 25
• His earthly father was a carpenter who was off in the city paying tax while Krishna was born
• His birth was signaled by a star in the east and attended by angels and shephards, at which time he was presented with spices
• The heavenly hosts danced and sang at his birth
• He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants
• Krishna was anointed on the head with oil by a woman whom he healed
• He is depicted as having his foot on the head of a serpent
• He worked miracles and wonders, raising the dead and healing lepers, the deaf and the blind
• Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love, and "he lived poor and loved the poor"
• He castigated the clergy, charging them with ambition and hypocrisy... Tradition says he fell victim to their vengeance
• Krishna's "beloved disciple" was Arjuna or Ar-jouan (John)
• He was transfigured in-front of his disciples
• He gave his disciples the ability to work miracles
• His path was "strewn with branches"
• In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two theives
• Krishna was killed around age 30 and the sun darkened at his death
• He rose from the dead and ascended into heave in "the sight of all men"
• He was depicted on a cross with nail-holes in his feet, as well as a heart emblem on his clothing
• Krishna is the "lion of the tribe of Saki"
• He was called the "Shephard God", and considered "Redeemer", "Firstborn", "Sin Bearer", "Liberator" and "Universal Word"
• He was deemed the "Son of God" and "Our Lord and Savior", who came to earth to die for man's salvation
• He was the second person of the trinity
• His disciples purportedly bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus" or "Jeseus" meaning "pure essence"
• Krishna is to return to judge the dead, riding on a white horse and do battle with the "Prince of Evil" who will desolate the earth
Source: Acharya S (http://www.truthbeknown.com)
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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I'm just putting information out there. Nice embellishments by the way.
Can you comment on teh consistentcy of the birthdate of December 25. I don't know exactly when our currenrt calender was adopted, but my feeling is some considerable time after at least several of those births.
HOw was an Egyptian birthdate translated into our calender ??
The ancient calanders were Zodiacs or Mazzaroth in Judaism. This measure of time is found in all the ancient mythos.
December 25 is when the Sun rises from it's lowest point in the sky, where it remains for 3 days. Directly above the Sun in the sky is the star Sirius (taken from Osiris), also known as the Star of Bethlehem. Directly above Sirius in the night sky of Dec 24/25 is the belt of Orion, 3 stars in direct line with Sirius and the Sun, thought to be the three wise men.
Tried to find a better picture, but this is all I could find, take a look up at the sky on Dec. 25 to see it, I plan to
Sorry, that would be at 12:00 AM on Dec 25 or the night of Dec 24.
http://www.usbible.com/Astrology/star_of_bethlehem.gif
i know you are ryan. and you know i stand right by your side when it comes to religion.
i believe we can exercise free will up to a point. but everything out of our control constricts and constrains that free will. so i guess its pseudo free will.
as for good vs evil. i am an atheist and therefore do not believe in good and evil in the biblical sense as most people do. we are all capable of doing heinous things. and it is only the conditioning of society that stops most of us doing so.
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Even more interesting, cos that makes trans-calender sense.
Remember that I live in the Southern Hemisphere, so the winter solstice is more like June 23 for us, otherwise known as Hogswatchight by the Pratchett fans like me, and the night I plan top light a massive bonfire I have ben buildign with my autumn pruning and assorted tidying of old logs.
I'm thinkning of mounting a burning man on top of that for addded effect !!!!
Christians chose that date because of the Pagan celebrations at the time. It was acknowledged as a day to celebrate rather than being the day of the birth of Christ.
They also copied the entire mythos of Christianity from other religions. There is not one unique quality of Christ, besides that he was depicted as a man in a monotheist religion. While all the others are well recognized myths
you still have bon fires? :( i miss a good burning.
ooh yeah lets get a wicker man and stuff him, then set him alight and dance around chanting and rubbing mud over each other.
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My point of posting that was not to get into any kind of debate over myth vs. fact. All people are allowed to believe whatever they want in my mind.
oh i recognise the christian myth.
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Is that Krishtian, Christian, KRSTian?
You mean Iesus, Jezeus or Jesus?
Was his virgin mother Almah, Meri, Mary or Davaki?
Other than that, I totally agree with all of you.
perhaps i should have said i recognise christianity as a myth.
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There is only one rationalization that's ever stood through time. Satan went around the world spreading myths about Christ 20,000 years before Christ's time.
Why is it that we don't accept "cults" in N. America, but we accept this...
Ah, but it does not matter what a person believes...
"It is of no matter whether or not the individual Jew is decent. He possesses certain characteristics given to him by nature, and he can never rid himself of those characteristics. The Jew is harmful to us... My feeling as a Christian leads me to be a fighter for our Lord and Savior. It leads me to the man who, at one time lonely and with only a few followers, recognized Jews for what they were, and called on men to fight against them... As a Christian I owe something to my own people." - Adolf Hitler
The rise of Hitler's Germany provides an interesting case in point, showing a nation swept by militaristic sentiment coupled with a sense of divine mission. The churches accepted Hitler's warmongering with religious joy. In April 1937, a Christian organization in the Rhineland passed a resolution that Hitlers word was the law of God and possessed "divine authority". Reichsminister for Church affairs Hans Kerrl announced: "There has risen a new authority as to what Christ and Christianity really are--that is Adolf Hitler. Adolf Hitler... is the true Holy Ghost." And so the pious gave him their blessing, and the churches gave him God's." (The Christ Conspiracy, Acharya S)
yes. tis a shame that while sticks and stones may break my bones, words can never hurt me.
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Amen...Ra!
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For the most part on this board, that is the case. This thread has been alright so far though. There hasn't been as much demeaning of people with different beliefs as the normal thread on this board.
Oh shit, sorry for talking about history. Alright everyone, let's pack up the truth and put it back in the closet! Get a move on! People are getting offended here...
Man, I just posted some historical facts and was instantly referred to as a crusader... watch, I'll be the one to get banned...
i apologise for that ryan. that was me. perhaps i shouldn't have been so flippant.
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It's cool, but I will demand a sacrifice.
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Do you really believe that ???
I have been far more wounded by words in my life than by sticks and stones. Fallling off (actually, I jumped as the fence approached) a bolting stallion was nothing compared to being accused of racial discrimination.
how interesting that you speak of peace and love and religion basically in the same sentence. the problem i have with religion besides the faulty premises it purports as truths, is how it has been co-opted for the supposed good and how that inevitably turns into a detriment. so much blood has been shed in the name of religion that it makes it difficult at times to see it as a good thing. my God is better than your God. my God is the one true God. isn't it enough people have faith. when did it turn into a pissing contest?
peace and love applies to ALL regardless of race religion gender age or nationality.
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knowing me, what do you think lucy?
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can we wear robes and smear blood on our faces?
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