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and what are the odds of a person overcoming not one but numerous serious mental illnesses? It can be done, but it happens so rarely, and when it happens to one's self, it is purely miraculous. Especially when one has felt the divine intervention actively. Ahnimus, you blatantly discount what you cannot see or prove so it's like you don't have the "miracle" lens to allow you to comprehend miracles in life. If this were field of dreams, you would not see the baseball players. Life is made up of two kinds--those who do see the baseball players and those who don't. I LOVE the baseball players!"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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dkst0426 wrote:Just because something can be scientifically explained does not make it any less a demonstration of divine intervention. Even IF it were a chance physical happening, what are the odds of whatever explanation is put forth happening? And what are the odds of the occasions you've detailed happening at those exact moments, with the events surrounding them all conspiring to happen at the same time?
What are the odds of us two people having this conversation?
Well, let's see...
There are approximately 7 billion people in the world.
There are approximately 65 million registered internet domains.
There are approximately 801 million people with internet access.
What do you think the odds are?I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:What are the odds of us two people having this conversation?
Well, let's see...
There are approximately 7 billion people in the world.
There are approximately 65 million registered internet domains.
There are approximately 801 million people with internet access.
What do you think the odds are?
Wait just a minute.
You're using empirical methodology and applying that to a metaphysical discussion?
If you have issues with the faith/the faithful, that's one thing, and I can understand that, because believers have those issues too. However, please don't insult my or anyone else's intelligence like that. It's so clear what you're trying to do, and masking it in all the eager-to-disprove-Scripture lingo you want isn't going to hide it.
I truly and sincerely am sorry that I cannot express myself more graciously, but the truth of the matter is that as a believer, I don't have too much patience for this kind of attempts at disproving my faith and more often than not going on to mocking it. If this utter contempt for the Christian faith you have is a result of some horrendously negative experience with someone/some people who claimed to be believers, I hurt for you and apologize on account of trying to extend Christ's grace as I/we have been called to.
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dkst0426 wrote:
Dude, they walked across a grassy marsh, there is no miracle.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
dkst0426 wrote:Wait just a minute.
You're using empirical methodology and applying that to a metaphysical discussion?
I'm not discussing metaphysics, walking across a grassy marsh isn't metaphysical.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
angelica wrote:and what are the odds of a person overcoming not one but numerous serious mental illnesses? It can be done, but it happens so rarely, and when it happens to one's self, it is purely miraculous. Especially when one has felt the divine intervention actively. Ahnimus, you blatantly discount what you cannot see or prove so it's like you don't have the "miracle" lens to allow you to comprehend miracles in life. If this were field of dreams, you would not see the baseball players. Life is made up of two kinds--those who do see the baseball players and those who don't. I LOVE the baseball players!
You're assuming Ahnimus has discounted those things he's seen in his life that are somewhat unexplainable, mysterious. We all have those. Sometimes, probably most times, it's best to keep those sort of things to oneself. Maybe that's why they are there in the first place.
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angelica wrote:and what are the odds of a person overcoming not one but numerous serious mental illnesses? It can be done, but it happens so rarely, and when it happens to one's self, it is purely miraculous. Especially when one has felt the divine intervention actively. Ahnimus, you blatantly discount what you cannot see or prove so it's like you don't have the "miracle" lens to allow you to comprehend miracles in life. If this were field of dreams, you would not see the baseball players. Life is made up of two kinds--those who do see the baseball players and those who don't. I LOVE the baseball players!
That's a crock!I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
gue_barium wrote:You're assuming Ahnimus has discounted those things he's seen in his life that are somewhat unexplainable, mysterious. We all have those. Sometimes, probably most times, it's best to keep those sort of things to oneself. Maybe that's why they are there in the first place."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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Ahnimus wrote:That's a crock!"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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gue_barium wrote:You're assuming Ahnimus has discounted those things he's seen in his life that are somewhat unexplainable, mysterious. We all have those. Sometimes, probably most times, it's best to keep those sort of things to oneself. Maybe that's why they are there in the first place.
I don't discount anything I see, I get explanations.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
angelica wrote:I'll just let you decide what you keep to yourself, and I'll decide for myself.
I didn't say different. It makes sense that you found my post an affront to Sensibilty.
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Ahnimus wrote:Dude, they walked across a grassy marsh, there is no miracle.Ahnimus wrote:I'm not discussing metaphysics, walking across a grassy marsh isn't metaphysical.
Did you even read it? Can you not even extend that much courtesy since I'm actually trying to engage in rational discussion here?0 -
angelica wrote:Here we go again. :rolleyes:
You just can't say that because I don't see doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Look, I could tell you there is a flying spaghetti monster, but unless I can actually show it to you, it doesn't exist.
You don't have to disprove the flying spaghetti monster, I have to prove it.
The same works for any subjective experience. They are hallucinations, pareidolia.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:I don't discount anything I see, I get explanations.
Of course, and what is it that leads you?
I got my signature from a post you made.
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gue_barium wrote:I didn't say different. It makes sense that you found my post an affront to Sensibilty."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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Ahnimus wrote:You just can't say that because I don't see doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Look, I could tell you there is a flying spaghetti monster, but unless I can actually show it to you, it doesn't exist.
You don't have to disprove the flying spaghetti monster, I have to prove it.
The same works for any subjective experience. They are hallucinations, pareidolia."The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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angelica wrote:Where do you get that I found your post as an affront to sensibility?
From the scriptures.
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angelica wrote:I'm not at all interested in trying to prove anything. People either get it or they don't. I'm okay with that. I'm just expressing my experience. I don't need to back that up--it's anecdotal, dontcha know.
Anecdotal? For whom? You? Get You?
It certainly doesn't have the medicinal qualities of the beer I'm drinking.
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gue_barium wrote:Anecdotal? For whom? You? Get You?
"anecdotal: based on personal observation, case study reports, or random investigations rather than systematic scientific evaluation: anecdotal evidence." --dictionary.com"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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