Is homosexuality a disease?

stuckinline

polaris wrote:

if they loved me and supported me - i'm 100% for it ... ask any orphan, foster child, abused child, etc and i'm pretty sure they'll tell u the same thing ...

it seems clearer and clearer that you have your own perceptions of homosexuals that are not necessarily shared by people here nor any significant majority - say gay hating people ...

there's a difference between having an opinion and saying that your opinion is fact ... most of your assumptions in this thread are not substantiated by anything nor do many agree with them ...

excellent post, well said

chromiam

NCfan wrote:

Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.

I don't agree with some of my parents values... and they're straight.

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

Depending on what age you are talking about, 7+ year olds might start to question it, but they are likely to be more accepting than a teenager.

ok great. let me clarify. I did mention "on the playground" so that would mean ages 7-12.

NCfan

chromiam wrote:

I don't agree with some of my parents values... and they're straight.

Exactly!

VictoryGin

jlew24asu wrote:

no of course not. thats seen as "natural" or to use an adult word. non-taboo.

this doesn't make me understand why a kid would be talking about how two mommies 'kiss and touch all of the time'. why would a kid initiate that then, if the other kids aren't sitting around on the playground talking about how their mommies and daddies kiss and touch all of the time?

jlew24asu

cutback wrote:

kids are mean for all sorts of reasons. That's doesn't justify homophobia.

I wasnt justifying it.

Ahnimus

jlew24asu wrote:

ok great. let me clarify. I did mention "on the playground" so that would mean ages 7-12.

Yea, they will probably be asking questions, but that's it.

You always get that "my dad's better than your dad" thing. That's just normal, and it wouldn't be any different if it was homosexuals.

VictoryGin

jlew24asu wrote:

because kids are mean. the kid might get laughed at for having "weird" parents. or 2 mommies.

kids also get laughed at for not having brand-name clothes, etc. so?

chromiam

NCfan wrote:

Exactly!

So what's your point??? Children of straight parents and homosexual parents may not agree with their parents values..... I don't see any difference so why deny a group from raising kids???

Ahnimus

Personally if you ask me. Homosexuality isn't solely physiological, sure a person's genetics may predispose them to it, but there are environmental influences involved.

If you take a whole bunch of one species and throw them into a confined space, homosexuality occurs. If you put 4 or 5 into the same space, it's not likely to happen. It comes in numbers of high-population.

polaris

there is nothing out there that says a gay couple cannot raise a child as good or better than a hetero couple ... so, if people (kids or adults) have a problem with it - then that is their problem ... it harkens back to previous barriers society has moved past ... we used to put black people in the back of a bus; not allow women to vote; etc ...

kids make fun of other kids all the time and none of them are for any good reasons ... so, if a kid is making fun of a kid from gay parents - u can blame the hetero parents that raised that kid ...

jlew24asu

VictoryGin wrote:

kids also get laughed at for not having brand-name clothes, etc. so?

its not the same. your are comparing clothes, which will come on go, parents dont

NCfan

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, they will probably be asking questions, but that's it.

You always get that "my dad's better than your dad" thing. That's just normal, and it wouldn't be any different if it was homosexuals.

Yeah, but the person would have to carry their lesbian parents baggage all through their life. This just doesn't affect them when their young.

Say they meet a girl, and she doesn't want to have two lesbian mother-in-laws. Let's say she wants to have a grandmother and grandfather for her kids.

RainDog

NCfan wrote:

Exactly!

Exactly what? Factory raised children so were all guaranteed normal?

People almost invariably have different values than their parents.

angelica

NCfan wrote:

Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.

Did you completely miss my point in your effort to drive your own point home??? While immersed in your own value system, are you able to step outside of that and imagine the values of a person who was raised in a different way? At any rate, your opinion and reality are two different things. If one is going to have a same-sex relationship and raise children, one will be starting off with a non-traditional value system. To expect the children to be outside that doesn't make much sense to me. My cousins were raised in a woman-woman relationship and they are open-minded themselves, and have supported their mother's relationship through the years. They are 39 and up in age, now, too, and so have had awhile to come out with problems if they were there.

Ahnimus

NCfan wrote:

Yeah, but the person would have to carry their lesbian parents baggage all through their life. This just doesn't affect them when their young.

It'd be little different if their mom was a whore and their dad a theif.

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, they will probably be asking questions, but that's it.

7 year olds dont have adult conversations about sexuality

Ahnimus wrote:

You always get that "my dad's better than your dad" thing. That's just normal, and it wouldn't be any different if it was homosexuals.

its alot different when my daddy is a good business man or construction worker compared to why is you dad kissing that guy?....

stuckinline

Ahnimus wrote:

Personally if you ask me. Homosexuality isn't solely physiological, sure a person's genetics may predispose them to it, but there are environmental influences involved.

If you take a whole bunch of one species and throw them into a confined space, homosexuality occurs. If you put 4 or 5 into the same space, it's not likely to happen. It comes in numbers of high-population.

look at any american prison, previously 'straight' men engage in homosexual activites

VictoryGin

jlew24asu wrote:

its not the same. your are comparing clothes, which will come on go, parents dont

but are you saying that this family situation would be a negative because a kid would get made fun of?

i'm saying that kids get made fun of many reasons, and so what? that's what happens to kids. so one kid gets made fun of because he lives in a trailer, in a project (class change doesn't come so easily), one kid gets made fun of because he has a funny name, one kid gets made fun of because he doesn't have the newest gaming system.

Ahnimus

jlew24asu wrote:

7 year olds dont have adult conversations about sexuality

its alot different when my daddy is a good business man or construction worker compared to why is you dad kissing that guy?....

If you are basing those statements on personal observation, then you have been subjected to one culture and a limited sample-size.

A 7+ year old does have questions. They ask about causality all the time. Parents often ignore this ability of their children, assuming their children don't know the difference between A and B.