No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.
It sounds more like you assume the world follows the same morality that you do. Value systems are individual and very subjective. Therefore to assume that someone raised in an entirely different emotional/moral climate as you would respond like you does not make sense.
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No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.
please, please, please show me a link to back up this statement
Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.
Maybe a male child - but then only because it would hamper any future lesbian fantasies the child may have had were he raised in a heterosexual household.
But, back to reality for a sec., why would the child resent them?
A more promising hypothesis is that hormonal influences during the prenatal period may be important. For example, women exposed before birth to diethylstilbestoral(DES) or to heightened levels of androgen are more likely than other women to express a bisexual or lesbian orientation, a finding that suggests that high prenatal(before birth) doses of sex hormones may dispose at least some females to homosexuality (Dittman et al., 1992; Meyer-Bahlberg et al., 1995)
do you know more about how that happens--the exposure to DES and whatnot?
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Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
This is comparing apples and oranges. Why not ask those who HAVE BEEN raised by same-sex parents and see what THEY say? You might be surprised.
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Becuase I feel that it is unfair to a child to be concieved by a lesbian couple.
But no child has ever been conceived by a lesbian couple. A child conceived by slamming an egg into an egg will not be a child.
There is an incredible likelyhood that the child will not be gay. And there is the incredible likelyhood that a hetero child does not want to be reared by gay parents.
I didn't really want to be reared by my straight parents, at times. It's not nature's design to allow kids to pick their parents.
Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
if they loved me and supported me - i'm 100% for it ... ask any orphan, foster child, abused child, etc and i'm pretty sure they'll tell u the same thing ...
it seems clearer and clearer that you have your own perceptions of homosexuals that are not necessarily shared by people here nor any significant majority - say gay hating people ...
there's a difference between having an opinion and saying that your opinion is fact ... most of your assumptions in this thread are not substantiated by anything nor do many agree with them ...
maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
And growing up with a gay or lesbian parent also seems to have little impact on later sexual orientation(Bailey et al., 1995; Golombok & Tasker, 1996)
(David R, Shaffer 1999)
Nuff, said.
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Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
personally, i would not care who raised me. as long as they loved one another, respected each other and loved and respected me.
maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
kids are mean for all sorts of reasons. That's doesn't justify homophobia.
maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
do other kids really talk about how mommy and daddy are kissing and touching all of the time?
Maybe a male child - but then only because it would hamper any future lesbian fantasies the child may have had were he raised in a heterosexual household.
But, back to reality for a sec., why would the child resent them?
oh you totally beat me to it.
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It sounds more like you assume the world follows the same morality that you do. Value systems are individual and very subjective. Therefore to assume that someone raised in an entirely different emotional/moral climate as you would respond like you does not make sense.
Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.
because kids are mean. the kid might get laughed at for having "weird" parents. or 2 mommies.
Depending on what age you are talking about, 7+ year olds might start to question it, but they are likely to be more accepting than a teenager.
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if they loved me and supported me - i'm 100% for it ... ask any orphan, foster child, abused child, etc and i'm pretty sure they'll tell u the same thing ...
it seems clearer and clearer that you have your own perceptions of homosexuals that are not necessarily shared by people here nor any significant majority - say gay hating people ...
there's a difference between having an opinion and saying that your opinion is fact ... most of your assumptions in this thread are not substantiated by anything nor do many agree with them ...
Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.
I don't agree with some of my parents values... and they're straight.
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no of course not. thats seen as "natural" or to use an adult word. non-taboo.
this doesn't make me understand why a kid would be talking about how two mommies 'kiss and touch all of the time'. why would a kid initiate that then, if the other kids aren't sitting around on the playground talking about how their mommies and daddies kiss and touch all of the time?
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ok great. let me clarify. I did mention "on the playground" so that would mean ages 7-12.
Yea, they will probably be asking questions, but that's it.
You always get that "my dad's better than your dad" thing. That's just normal, and it wouldn't be any different if it was homosexuals.
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So what's your point??? Children of straight parents and homosexual parents may not agree with their parents values..... I don't see any difference so why deny a group from raising kids???
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Personally if you ask me. Homosexuality isn't solely physiological, sure a person's genetics may predispose them to it, but there are environmental influences involved.
If you take a whole bunch of one species and throw them into a confined space, homosexuality occurs. If you put 4 or 5 into the same space, it's not likely to happen. It comes in numbers of high-population.
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It sounds more like you assume the world follows the same morality that you do. Value systems are individual and very subjective. Therefore to assume that someone raised in an entirely different emotional/moral climate as you would respond like you does not make sense.
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Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
I could be wrong, but he's not basing this on facts he found using google. its his personally opinion. something he is certainly entitled to
maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
But, back to reality for a sec., why would the child resent them?
do you know more about how that happens--the exposure to DES and whatnot?
cross the river to the eastside
This is comparing apples and oranges. Why not ask those who HAVE BEEN raised by same-sex parents and see what THEY say? You might be surprised.
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But no child has ever been conceived by a lesbian couple. A child conceived by slamming an egg into an egg will not be a child.
I didn't really want to be reared by my straight parents, at times. It's not nature's design to allow kids to pick their parents.
if they loved me and supported me - i'm 100% for it ... ask any orphan, foster child, abused child, etc and i'm pretty sure they'll tell u the same thing ...
it seems clearer and clearer that you have your own perceptions of homosexuals that are not necessarily shared by people here nor any significant majority - say gay hating people ...
there's a difference between having an opinion and saying that your opinion is fact ... most of your assumptions in this thread are not substantiated by anything nor do many agree with them ...
Nuff, said.
do other kids really talk about how mommy and daddy are kissing and touching all of the time?
oh you totally beat me to it.
cross the river to the eastside
because kids are mean. the kid might get laughed at for having "weird" parents. or 2 mommies.
Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.
Depending on what age you are talking about, 7+ year olds might start to question it, but they are likely to be more accepting than a teenager.
no of course not. thats seen as "natural" or to use an adult word. non-taboo.
I don't agree with some of my parents values... and they're straight.
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ok great. let me clarify. I did mention "on the playground" so that would mean ages 7-12.
Exactly!
this doesn't make me understand why a kid would be talking about how two mommies 'kiss and touch all of the time'. why would a kid initiate that then, if the other kids aren't sitting around on the playground talking about how their mommies and daddies kiss and touch all of the time?
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I wasnt justifying it.
Yea, they will probably be asking questions, but that's it.
You always get that "my dad's better than your dad" thing. That's just normal, and it wouldn't be any different if it was homosexuals.
kids also get laughed at for not having brand-name clothes, etc. so?
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So what's your point??? Children of straight parents and homosexual parents may not agree with their parents values..... I don't see any difference so why deny a group from raising kids???
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If you take a whole bunch of one species and throw them into a confined space, homosexuality occurs. If you put 4 or 5 into the same space, it's not likely to happen. It comes in numbers of high-population.