Is homosexuality a disease?

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    NCfan wrote:
    No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.

    It sounds more like you assume the world follows the same morality that you do. Value systems are individual and very subjective. Therefore to assume that someone raised in an entirely different emotional/moral climate as you would respond like you does not make sense.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    NCfan wrote:
    No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.
    Why would they resent it?
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    VictoryGin wrote:
    careful polaris :) you may be deemed not mentally capable.

    that's a given! ... ;)
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    gluten919 wrote:
    please, please, please show me a link to back up this statement

    Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    gluten919 wrote:
    please, please, please show me a link to back up this statement


    I could be wrong, but he's not basing this on facts he found using google. its his personally opinion. something he is certainly entitled to
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    cutback wrote:
    Why would they resent it?

    maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NCfan wrote:
    No, I'm not saying that homosexuality is immoral. I'm saying that it is immoral for lesbians to bring a child into the world, when in all likelyhood the child will resent them for it.
    Maybe a male child - but then only because it would hamper any future lesbian fantasies the child may have had were he raised in a heterosexual household.

    But, back to reality for a sec., why would the child resent them?
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    Ahnimus wrote:
    A more promising hypothesis is that hormonal influences during the prenatal period may be important. For example, women exposed before birth to diethylstilbestoral(DES) or to heightened levels of androgen are more likely than other women to express a bisexual or lesbian orientation, a finding that suggests that high prenatal(before birth) doses of sex hormones may dispose at least some females to homosexuality (Dittman et al., 1992; Meyer-Bahlberg et al., 1995)

    do you know more about how that happens--the exposure to DES and whatnot?
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    NCfan wrote:
    Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????

    This is comparing apples and oranges. Why not ask those who HAVE BEEN raised by same-sex parents and see what THEY say? You might be surprised.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    NCfan wrote:
    Becuase I feel that it is unfair to a child to be concieved by a lesbian couple.

    But no child has ever been conceived by a lesbian couple. A child conceived by slamming an egg into an egg will not be a child.
    There is an incredible likelyhood that the child will not be gay. And there is the incredible likelyhood that a hetero child does not want to be reared by gay parents.

    I didn't really want to be reared by my straight parents, at times. It's not nature's design to allow kids to pick their parents.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    NCfan wrote:
    Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????

    if they loved me and supported me - i'm 100% for it ... ask any orphan, foster child, abused child, etc and i'm pretty sure they'll tell u the same thing ...

    it seems clearer and clearer that you have your own perceptions of homosexuals that are not necessarily shared by people here nor any significant majority - say gay hating people ...

    there's a difference between having an opinion and saying that your opinion is fact ... most of your assumptions in this thread are not substantiated by anything nor do many agree with them ...
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
    Why would the kid have to explain that?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ahnimus wrote:

    And growing up with a gay or lesbian parent also seems to have little impact on later sexual orientation(Bailey et al., 1995; Golombok & Tasker, 1996)
    (David R, Shaffer 1999)

    Nuff, said.
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  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    NCfan wrote:
    Of course I don't have a link. But how many people in the world if asked would say that they wouldn't mind if their parents were lesbians????? What do you think????? Would you not care if you were raised by two lesbians????
    personally, i would not care who raised me. as long as they loved one another, respected each other and loved and respected me.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.
    kids are mean for all sorts of reasons. That's doesn't justify homophobia.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe because kids are mean. and while all the other kids talk about mommy and daddy. this kid will have to explain on the playground why mommy and mommy are kissing and touching all the time.

    do other kids really talk about how mommy and daddy are kissing and touching all of the time?


    RainDog wrote:
    Maybe a male child - but then only because it would hamper any future lesbian fantasies the child may have had were he raised in a heterosexual household.

    But, back to reality for a sec., why would the child resent them?

    oh you totally beat me to it.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RainDog wrote:
    Why would the kid have to explain that?


    because kids are mean. the kid might get laughed at for having "weird" parents. or 2 mommies.
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    angelica wrote:
    It sounds more like you assume the world follows the same morality that you do. Value systems are individual and very subjective. Therefore to assume that someone raised in an entirely different emotional/moral climate as you would respond like you does not make sense.

    Thanks for driving my point home. The kid of two lesbians may not agree with the value system of their parents. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say there is a greater chance than not that they will disagree.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    because kids are mean. the kid might get laughed at for having "weird" parents. or 2 mommies.

    Depending on what age you are talking about, 7+ year olds might start to question it, but they are likely to be more accepting than a teenager.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    VictoryGin wrote:
    do other kids really talk about how mommy and daddy are kissing and touching all of the time?


    no of course not. thats seen as "natural" or to use an adult word. non-taboo.

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