Is homosexuality a disease?

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Well that certainly shows your prejudice.

    Look, I used to think Homosexuality was all personal choice and immoral, You can easily find threads where I made similar statements. Since I've educated myself, I no longer see the linearity that you do.


    wow. where have I ever said homosexuality was all personal choice, immoral, or anything to the effect of showing prejudice?

    I came to conclusions that show quite the opposite without the use of a textbook.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    i guess most of us don't catalog the things we see and read so that when challenged; we can go back and explain why we have the opinions we have.
    i saw a story on the news where parents complained about a gay student showering with thier kids. another story was about the students complaining about having to shower with a gay girl stating that she is viewing them sexually and compared it to showering with a boy. i can't say when or where it was broadcast because i didn't know this thread would come up some time in the future.

    That's little more than sensationalized news broadcasting.

    See the major difference between personal experience and scientific research; Is that you have maybe known 10 gay people - if that, in your life. Maybe you saw it on the news a few times. But scientific research uses similar methods of observation, of course making sure to use control mechanisms like monozygous twins, and a sample-size of around 100,000 gay people.

    Regardless of what you've observed in your life, within those 10 people you met, when you look at 100,000 people you see a different story. You weed out those percepts of only sampling a few people in the same culture or social environment.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wow. where have I ever said homosexuality was all personal choice, immoral, or anything to the effect of showing prejudice?

    I came to conclusions that show quite the opposite without the use of a textbook.

    I didn't say you thought that, I thought that before. I'm saying that things aren't linear.

    Two gay parents will not give rise to a gay child 100% of the time. In-fact the data polled from thousands of cases shows it to be very insignificant.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Two gay parents will not give rise to a gay child 100% of the time. In-fact the data polled from thousands of cases shows it to be very insignificant.


    I came to that conclusion without the use of a book.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I came to that conclusion without the use of a book.

    Ok, so you in an inefficient, highly-fallable way came to some percept. You also assume that it will affect a child's life in drastic ways, based on nothing but subjective transduction and no physical data or formal understanding of child psychology.

    That's my point, you can go back and forth with this shit all day.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
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    *standing ovation*

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That's little more than sensationalized news broadcasting.

    See the major difference between personal experience and scientific research; Is that you have maybe known 10 gay people - if that, in your life. Maybe you saw it on the news a few times. But scientific research uses similar methods of observation, of course making sure to use control mechanisms like monozygous twins, and a sample-size of around 100,000 gay people.

    Regardless of what you've observed in your life, within those 10 people you met, when you look at 100,000 people you see a different story. You weed out those percepts of only sampling a few people in the same culture or social environment.

    and you think all these people read this research before forming an opinion? i had a neighbour who was arian nation. do you think he read the research first? can someone have an opinion based on just their feelings?
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Ok, so you in an inefficient, highly-fallable way came to some percept. You also assume that it will affect a child's life in drastic ways, based on nothing but subjective transduction and no physical data or formal understanding of child psychology.

    That's my point, you can go back and forth with this shit all day.


    call me crazy but children being bullied, for whatever reason, has some effect on the child. I never said drastic

    and I have no formal training on child psychology. damn I'm good
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    and you think all these people read this research before forming an opinion? i had a neighbour who was arian nation. do you think he read the research first? can someone have an opinion based on just their feelings?

    Certainly you can, but you aren't allowing for dissonance. This is just back and forth, repatative horse shit that get's nothing accomplished but a waste of webspace.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    jlew24asu wrote:
    call me crazy but children being bullied, for whatever reason, has some effect on the child. I never said drastic

    and I have no formal training on child psychology. damn I'm good

    you are so right about the bulliing. one comment can scar a kid for life.
  • qwerty1
    qwerty1 Posts: 142
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    I think this is appropriate viewing for this thread.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Certainly you can, but you aren't allowing for dissonance. This is just back and forth, repatative horse shit that get's nothing accomplished but a waste of webspace.


    we were having a great discussion until you came along
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    call me crazy but children being bullied, for whatever reason, has some effect on the child. I never said drastic

    and I have no formal training on child psychology. damn I'm good

    Bullying has different effects on different people. Bullying is an issue, but it's usually the result of problems at home for the BULLY, not the one being Bullied.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    See, the BULLY picks on kids for no reasons outside of his own life.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Certainly you can, but you aren't allowing for dissonance. This is just back and forth, repatative horse shit that get's nothing accomplished but a waste of webspace.

    maybe i just wanted some attention today. i still think that 90% of the population shouldn't raise kids.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Tell your kid that there will always be bullies, because of the insecurities in their lives. Nothing to do with the kid being picked on.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    You know, Mrs. Buckman, you need a license to buy a dog, to drive a car - hell, you even need a license to catch a fish. But they'll let any butt-reaming asshole be a father.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    maybe i just wanted some attention today. i still think that 90% of the population shouldn't raise kids.

    A few months ago I would have agreed with you. Although I've realized that parents are typically very adept at raising children. Up until the teenage years anyway.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Bullying has different effects on different people.

    hmmm can you show me some hard statistics to back this up? :rolleyes:

    Ahnimus wrote:
    Bullying is an issue, but it's usually the result of problems at home for the BULLY, not the one being Bullied.

    great dodge. person bullied will still be effected. either in a small way, large way, or none at all.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hmmm can you show me some hard statistics to back this up? :rolleyes:

    great dodge. person bullied will still be effected. either in a small way, large way, or none at all.

    Yea, and that depends on how their parents have raised them. It's highly dynamical.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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