Ankle-biting Democrats

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I think your problem is you conflate what liberal and progressive people say ONLINE with what the official party and those that run it represents.

you are correct. The Democratic Party needs to figure their shit out and stand for something. And this polling should be concerning. 

But make no mistake, just because people don’t like Dems, they aren’t flocking to Trump or conservatism. Trump and GoP policies are deeply unpopular. Yes, Democrats need to offer something to America. But part of the perceived inaction is figuring out what gains traction. We’re only 8ish months into this admin. Another big election season is a year and a half away and another presidential election cycle won’t really start for bit over 2. Unfortunately, it takes time to see what works. 

all we get here and in many dem circles is the ongoing circle jerk…fvckfce orange clown brigade, crying about the bolded stuff in my prior post that no one outside the base cares about. 

Politicians are saying that or people who are online? Because one group runs the actual party and the other group are just people with interests. Which is my point. 

The party has significant influence on how regular liberal people think. They promote fairly new concepts, such as gender identity or dei, and are not agreeable whatsoever with any differing views within the party. You see that type mindspeak around here. 

We see the results of this in liberal forums such as this, and quite frankly places like this are becoming further and further from American mainstream. And we see the wider results in recent voter registrations.

lol. No they fucking don’t. 

If anything Dem leadership is out of tune with regular people, both working class traditionally liberal AND gen Z. 

All you need to do is watch that video of Jeffries and his Marriott Ballroom A - Sales Conference speak. 

But yes, I do agree that they don’t want differing views in the party. It’s why they shut down popular progressive ideas. 

HughFreakingDillon

"dems are terrible at messaging"
"dems have a significant influence on how liberal people think"

hahaha

HughFreakingDillon

the desperation to shit on the party and half the country that you had to dig up a nearly two-decade old thread is really something. 

DE4173

Troublesome.

The DNC’s chair inherited a crisis. His critics say he’s part of it

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DE4173

"What about Trump?" doesn't pay the bills, ya'll.

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DE4173

My Goodness Gracious 

https://x.com/devorydarkins/status/1959986934325137798?t=Xm41ww7J8tqQLM_4rqGWlQ&s=19

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

the desperation to shit on the party and half the country that you had to dig up a nearly two-decade old thread is really something. 

Your vacation here was a good idea, but unfortunately didn’t yield positive results.


I did say it’s because there was no active democrat thread and I liked the title when I searched for it. Perhaps they should teach up there how the search function works. It provides results based on the matching of words. Like democrats. 


and the dems don’t need me to point out their problem with shit. I’m sure it’s made the papers up there, they are a complete and absolute minority party, and losing registered voters by the millions to the Rs, which, I know where there’s seventy two political parties its difficult to visualize, losing REGISTERED voters by the millions is a death knell to any political party.

HughFreakingDillon

yeah, I'm sure it was the only thread with the word democrats in it in the last two decades. Or? You could start a new thread that is relevant. The mods actually don't like people digging up threads this old.

your pathetic attempts to insult me continue to amuse. 

Tim Simmons

More like this stuff from the big boi

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Twitter links if that’s your thing because you like that sort of site

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Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

the desperation to shit on the party and half the country that you had to dig up a nearly two-decade old thread is really something. 

losing REGISTERED voters by the millions is a death knell to any political party.

Agreed, especially when you look at the (checks notes)…. The last 170 years of basically 2 political parties 

Halifax2TheMax

And some on here think dem messaging can counter and break through this? Seriously? From Letter From An American:

Pritzker noted that every major American city deals with crime, but that the rate of violent crime is actually higher in Republican-dominated states and cities than in those run by Democrats. Illinois, he said, had “hired more police and given them more funding. We banned assault weapons, ghost guns, bump stocks, and high-capacity magazines” and “invested historic amounts into community violence intervention programs.” Those actions have cut violent crime down dramatically. Pritzker pointed out that “thirteen of the top twenty cities in homicide rates have Republican governors. None of these cities is Chicago. Eight of the top ten states with the highest homicide rates are led by Republicans. None of those states is Illinois.” 

If Trump were serious about combatting crime, Pritzker asked, why did he, along with congressional Republicans, cut more than $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants? “Trump,” Pritzker said, “is defunding the police.”

Then Pritzker turned to the larger national story. “To the members of the press who are assembled here today and listening across the country,” he said, “I am asking for your courage to tell it like it is. This is not a time to pretend here that there are two sides to this story. This is not a time to fall back into the reflexive crouch that I so often see where the authoritarian creep by this administration is ignored in favor of some horse race piece on who will be helped politically by the president's actions. Donald Trump wants to use the military to occupy a U.S.  city, punish his dissidents, and score political points. If this were happening in any other country, we would have no trouble calling it what it is: a dangerous power grab.” 

Maher, Joebro, Berniebros, WaPo, NYT, WSJ, all complicit. Good luck.

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, I'm sure it was the only thread with the word democrats in it in the last two decades. Or? You could start a new thread that is relevant. The mods actually don't like people digging up threads this old.

your pathetic attempts to insult me continue to amuse. 

Do you realize is it’s you that usually starts the insults, this time by referring to me as desperate?. And you shadow quote for plausible deniability. just because you actively skirt the rules here doesn’t make your point correct. 

You know they don’t rigorously monitor, only when Hal or someone else hands them a complaint,  and they will never make the effort to find nor enforce the original insult. Good for u mimicking a rule skirter. That’s why this place is an Augean stable for the right and centrists. The usuals know how to effectively skirt the rules. Congrats.

and I guess me wanting or enjoying  to have the word democrat in the title is outside of my first amendment rights. Better to clutter the forum with another new democrat title.

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

the desperation to shit on the party and half the country that you had to dig up a nearly two-decade old thread is really something. 

losing REGISTERED voters by the millions is a death knell to any political party.

Agreed, especially when you look at the (checks notes)…. The last 170 years of basically 2 political parties 

You are agreeing that trump changed politics, which is good. So looking back 170 years not so good.

Tim Simmons

No. What I'm pushing back on is "death knell". Its overly dramatic. The 2 parties have lost voters to each other in the past 170 years. Hand wring for the short term, not for the Democrats long term viability. 

Tim Simmons

Also, we can't say for certain Trump changed anything. He is most likely an anomaly.

Tim Simmons

Lerx, I think you need some thicker skin. 

DE4173

"A 'big tent party' has a left side and a right side. You can't just support one side and not the other. That's how a tent collapses."

https://x.com/davidhogg111/status/1960377967596507500?t=-FeO_g4vMr0a3OHr4KNsKQ&s=19

Tim Simmons

He's right. The center left has ran the party for decades and its only been in the last 2 election cycles that stronger progressive left voices have spoken up. The center left doesn't want to give up the power and pull it has on the party so they marginalize and blame more progressive voices and blame them to deflect their own failures. But their limp handling of everything this year has shown how feckless the leadership truly is. 

Gern Blansten

Tim Simmons said:

Also, we can't say for certain Trump changed anything. He is most likely an anomaly.

That's what I believe...as stupid as trump is I give him credit for being able to pull this bullshit off.

He's arguably the greatest actor in history. Very possible that his total narcissism is what makes it possible but no one else could continue to lie to the entire world and not be overthrown. 

tempo_n_groove

Tim Simmons said:

He's right. The center left has ran the party for decades and its only been in the last 2 election cycles that stronger progressive left voices have spoken up. The center left doesn't want to give up the power and pull it has on the party so they marginalize and blame more progressive voices and blame them to deflect their own failures. But their limp handling of everything this year has shown how feckless the leadership truly is. 

Feckless is such a great word!