Ankle-biting Democrats

Gern Blansten

tempo_n_groove said:

Gern Blansten said:

tempo_n_groove said:

I will forget whom said it but they dem did say (paraphrasing)"we need to fight like the GOP does. Take a page out of their book and use it."

If this is how both sides will act from here on out then we will just be screwed...

THey need to do it...there is currently no other way to fight

I have said it before on here and got pushback but I like what Newsom is doing and it needs to go further. Every time a dem talks about trump they should talk about his appearance, his poor health, his lying, golfing on taxpayer's dime, etc. Rinse, repeat...every fucking day

Decorum is fucking gone until trump is gone

I'll forget her name too but a representative lashed back at MGT.  She called her a "Beach Blonde bad built butch body".  I remember the alliteration though.  It was funny.

trump gets away with it daily...calling Pritzker a fat slob when he's basically the exact same build, always referring to women as "nasty" and stupid. 

Halifax2TheMax

Well, we have seen where, “when they go low, we go high” got us.

Funny that people are complaining about the lack of respect amongst the yutes but don’t seem to be bothered by those most responsible for setting examples being PsOS. What did Sir Charles say about being a role model again?

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

Well, we have seen where, “when they go low, we go high” got us.

Funny that people are complaining about the lack of respect amongst the yutes but don’t seem to be bothered by those most responsible for setting examples being PsOS. What did Sir Charles say about being a role model again?

Isn't that what we are getting at here?

Lerxst1992

tempo_n_groove said:

DE4173 said:

🤔

Never did I think I would read something Hogg said and agree with.  Wow.  Well said.

He should get off the age crap and instead just tell us how he is going to break thru the R stranglehold on the senate and scotus. One could argue his anti gun activism has failed miserably. The party would be better off judging him for his lack of effectiveness, rather than his crying about older reps. 

Lerxst1992

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Go Beavers said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

No. What I'm pushing back on is "death knell". Its overly dramatic. The 2 parties have lost voters to each other in the past 170 years. Hand wring for the short term, not for the Democrats long term viability. 

The phrase is meant to be amusing hyperbole.

However a net migration of 5 million registered voters from D to R is a significant problem. Voter reg is supposed to be the dem sweet spot. No more.

I didn’t read every word of what you posted earlier, but I don’t think it said there was a migration of D to R. Maybe I missed it though. 

It was a major analysis of voter registration published by the NYT, and discussed by quite a few commenters in the last week or so.

”

 According to an August 2025 analysis by 

The New York Times, the Republican Party saw a net migration of registered voters from the Democratic Party between the 2020 and 2024 elections. The study found that Republicans gained a net of 4.5 million voters over Democrats in the 30 states that track party registration. 

Key findings from the Times analysis

The voter registration data analyzed by the Times, in collaboration with the data firm L2, highlighted several key shifts: ”

And if you read the article, it talks about gains and losses. The only reference about ‘migration to’ is when it talks about Pennsylvania. 

We're going to get lost in the interpretation of words used or consider the net impact?

I’m not lost. It’s an important distinction because what’s been happening is that people have been dropping D and R affiliation and claiming unaffiliated for years now. This is important to strategy because you then game for inspiring people to claim D, as opposed to trying to be more like republicans in the hope you’ll
flip them back. 

That’s a reference to getting lost in the details. 

It's a bad sign the Rs are gaining and the Ds are dropping. Especially in the post Obama era where there were supposed to be  new generations of voters that were progressive. We don’t need to get involved in what’s behind these stats, we could explain it with any anecdote we want. The bottom line is parties with enthusiasm win elections, and in the 30 states NYT analyzed the Rs were 30-0 over Ds in net voter registration . I’d prefer to have their winning record.

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DE4173 said:

🤔

Never did I think I would read something Hogg said and agree with.  Wow.  Well said.

He should get off the age crap and instead just tell us how he is going to break thru the R stranglehold on the senate and scotus. One could argue his anti gun activism has failed miserably. The party would be better off judging him for his lack of effectiveness, rather than his crying about older reps. 

I think his point is, new blood, fresh younder faces will excite the base and bring in (back?) voters

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DE4173 said:

🤔

Never did I think I would read something Hogg said and agree with.  Wow.  Well said.

He should get off the age crap and instead just tell us how he is going to break thru the R stranglehold on the senate and scotus. One could argue his anti gun activism has failed miserably. The party would be better off judging him for his lack of effectiveness, rather than his crying about older reps. 

I think his point is, new blood, fresh younder faces will excite the base and bring in (back?) voters

Usually younger candidates do worse in primaries and senate elections, unless it’s a truly inspirational one like when Clinton in the 90s or Obama. The key is inspiration. As much as we dislike maga, its leader inspired a lot of people to get involved.


here we have Hogg, the young gun of the party and his message is pure crap. He is Blaming the who, using identity politics,  and not focusing on policy or inspiration , and it’s old worn out politics. Even from a 24 yr old.

DE4173

Tim Simmons said:

Lerxst1992 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

DE4173 said:

🤔

Never did I think I would read something Hogg said and agree with.  Wow.  Well said.

He should get off the age crap and instead just tell us how he is going to break thru the R stranglehold on the senate and scotus. One could argue his anti gun activism has failed miserably. The party would be better off judging him for his lack of effectiveness, rather than his crying about older reps. 

I think his point is, new blood, fresh younder faces will excite the base and bring in (back?) voters

Couldn't hurt in helping prevent losing seats due to dying while in office.

gimmesometruth27

Halifax2TheMax said:

Well, we have seen where, “when they go low, we go high” got us.

Funny that people are complaining about the lack of respect amongst the yutes but don’t seem to be bothered by those most responsible for setting examples being PsOS. What did Sir Charles say about being a role model again?

one time i said we need to fight back, "when they go low, we step on them" and i got called out for threatening political violence and all this nonsense. even some stupid ass ai explanation of how i was calling for violence and losing the argument, etc.

so i guess now it is "when they go low, we don't do a fucking thing."

Tim Simmons

Yo. THIS fucking guy

https://newrepublic.com/article/199682/graham-platner-maine-senate-profile

DE4173

Funny if true:

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1961426250523697495?t=9ZU7_-L9DAaSbfYvZU6OJA&s=19

Gern Blansten

Tim Simmons said:

Yo. THIS fucking guy

https://newrepublic.com/article/199682/graham-platner-maine-senate-profile

Should be interesting 

DE4173

Seems like the shiny new thing (think Beto and Pete back in the day). 

Definitely a guy to look out for.

If you like what you see:

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/platner_website

Lerxst1992

DE4173 said:

Seems like the shiny new thing (think Beto and Pete back in the day). 

Definitely a guy to look out for.

If you like what you see:

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/platner_website

A political unknown living off VA disability will beat Collins? She was supposed to lose in 2020, didn’t happen.

Tim Simmons

Lerxst1992

Tim Simmons said:

I guess we’re kicking out Lennon. Maybe gimme can confirm.

Lerxst1992

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/01/democrats-fret-the-zohran-mamdani-effect-will-cost-them-next-year-00531906

Zohran Mamdani’s front-running campaign to lead the nation’s largest city is stoking fear among moderate Democrats that his far-left politics will cost them at the ballot box.

They worry a Mamdani mayoralty will deepen an existential crisis for a party desperate to win back power in Congress — simultaneously handing Republicans a cudgel to paint their moderate opponents as socialists and encouraging hard-left copy cat candidates to primary Democratic incumbents, potentially pushing the party further to the left.

Republicans are giving the 33-year-old democratic socialist a starring role in digital ads and fundraising appeals — affixing him to moderate Democrats who represent swing seats in the New York City suburbs and nationwid

A video this month by the House GOP’s campaign arm warned that Democrats “want to turn America into a socialist, crime-filled dystopia” and features a clip of Mamdani discussing the “abolition of private property.”

“I’ve never seen Republicans more giddy about the idea of a socialist mayor of New York City,” said former Nassau County executive Laura Curran, a Democrat. “They’re more excited about this than Mamdani’s followers or supporters

“Mamdani is the greatest threat to Democrats probably since Ronald Reagan because he’s everything Democrats have been accused of being and in fact is — to the extreme,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a longtime New York Democratic operative who is advising one of the anti-Mamdani groups. “Republican ad makers will know what to do with this.”

Democratic Rep. Laura Gillen, whose swing House seat on Long Island will be a top target for Republicans next year, called Mamdani “too extreme to lead New York City.”

Halifax2TheMax

Oh my! Look at all those “others!” OMG! ‘Murica will never survive it. I really hope he gets elected so the ‘Murican people can get and deserve everything stupid they get.

https://www.zohranfornyc.com/endorsements

tempo_n_groove

Lerxst1992 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/01/democrats-fret-the-zohran-mamdani-effect-will-cost-them-next-year-00531906

Zohran Mamdani’s front-running campaign to lead the nation’s largest city is stoking fear among moderate Democrats that his far-left politics will cost them at the ballot box.

They worry a Mamdani mayoralty will deepen an existential crisis for a party desperate to win back power in Congress — simultaneously handing Republicans a cudgel to paint their moderate opponents as socialists and encouraging hard-left copy cat candidates to primary Democratic incumbents, potentially pushing the party further to the left.

Republicans are giving the 33-year-old democratic socialist a starring role in digital ads and fundraising appeals — affixing him to moderate Democrats who represent swing seats in the New York City suburbs and nationwid

A video this month by the House GOP’s campaign arm warned that Democrats “want to turn America into a socialist, crime-filled dystopia” and features a clip of Mamdani discussing the “abolition of private property.”

“I’ve never seen Republicans more giddy about the idea of a socialist mayor of New York City,” said former Nassau County executive Laura Curran, a Democrat. “They’re more excited about this than Mamdani’s followers or supporters

“Mamdani is the greatest threat to Democrats probably since Ronald Reagan because he’s everything Democrats have been accused of being and in fact is — to the extreme,” said Hank Sheinkopf, a longtime New York Democratic operative who is advising one of the anti-Mamdani groups. “Republican ad makers will know what to do with this.”

Democratic Rep. Laura Gillen, whose swing House seat on Long Island will be a top target for Republicans next year, called Mamdani “too extreme to lead New York City.”

Bernie Sanders, remember him?  We all liked him.  Well he's doing an anti oligarchy tour and Mandani is invited.  I'm sure Bernie doesn't see him as too extreme.

Tim Simmons

This isn't fighting. 

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/theres-a-new-budget-showdown-senate-dems-current-plan-is-bullshit

Why do we want these people to remain in power if they aren't even gonna try?