you mentioned something about people being immature around here?
Immature attacks to the OP and others that post here.....yeah there is no shortage. Posting humorous photos is the same now according to you?
What exactly are you attempting to call me out on?
Are you John McCain?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
being immature. well that and an anti-semite who firmly believes the holocaust didnt happen or barely happened. something like that.
So you are calling me a racist?
nice work..
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
you posts are for all to see. you aren't fooling anyone
Either are you for that matter
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
being immature. well that and an anti-semite who firmly believes the holocaust didnt happen or barely happened. something like that.
Jeff I didn't see roland say that the holocaust didn't happen or barely happened.
I don't think it's right to call someone an anti semite for the sake of point scoring.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
anyone respect how mccain took the high road in this wright saga? he basically defended obama as being a good american and not equate wright to obama. very classy
anyone respect how mccain took the high road in this wright saga? he basically defended obama as being a good american and not equate wright to obama. very classy
i think the sad thing is that you are going to have other people in the party not do the same thing and people will blame McCain for it. i have a feeling that if McCain goes agianst Obama (which i think is going to happen) you will see 2 clean campaigns execpt you will see dirty ads run by people not apart of the campaign.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
it is beyond my comprehension how anyone could think of voting for a republican for President in 2008. To follow the policies on Iraq, the fact that we are in a recession and gas prices are ridiculous yet still vote for a continuing of these policies is absolutely mind boggling to me. I don't pretend to think Obama or Clinton are great choices but how can we possibly continue on this path?
it is beyond my comprehension how anyone could think of voting for a republican for President in 2008. To follow the policies on Iraq, the fact that we are in a recession and gas prices are ridiculous yet still vote for a continuing of these policies is absolutely mind boggling to me. I don't pretend to think Obama or Clinton are great choices but how can we possibly continue on this path?
I'll be honest, I've been struggling with this as well. I'm not too sure the tax cut policies and continued spending in Iraq is good. My vote is going to mccain as of now, more on the fact that obama/clinton are worse IMO. I will listen closely to the debates that happen later this year and I may very well change my mind.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Jeff I didn't see roland say that the holocaust didn't happen or barely happened.
I don't think it's right to call someone an anti semite for the sake of point scoring.
Have to agree with Mr. Moon here. This guy consistently bashes Israel on this board. Anti Semites today are found not in the actual verbal abuse of Jews. That became politically incorrect after that whole Holocaust thing. Today's anti-semites channel their hatred or intolerance into uninformed bias against all things Israel. There are a few like that on this board. We know who they are.
mccain is bush in a war veteran's uniform. no real differences.
Really? Because I think Bush and McCain would both be offended by that remark. McCain has been a thorn in the side of the Republican rank and file for most of his career. He's fucking proud of that shit.
I don't know where this McBush shit comes from, because it really couldn't be further from the truth.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
In March 2008, Dick Cheney was in Baghdad, calling the Iraq War a "successful endeavor." John McCain went there too, and actually uttered those four magic words, "the surge is working," which only differs from Cheney's analysis in the scary possibility that McCain might actually believe it. Then again, maybe Cheney's pronouncement can be chalked up to youthful exuberance -- after all, he's almost 5 years younger than McCain.
And then there's that other possibility, the one that's starting to scare me: That by a certain neocon definition, Iraq is a success.
What if the war in Iraq did go on for 100 years, as McCain suggested it might? What are we looking at? An entire century of ever-increasing military spending, necessitating deep cuts in all other government programs -- like public education and health care and all that other sissy stuff. A staging ground for ten decades of warfare with Islamist militants, for whom the place is becoming a terrorist fantasy camp ("Come to Iraq and fight real Americans in your own back yard! Get your picture taken with real al Qaeda pros! Learn the fundamentals of blowing yourself up!"). And endless, lucrative contracts for American companies that support the war effort, from Grumman to Raytheon to -- of course -- Halliburton. Companies that in the absence of a Cold War might otherwise see their prospects dwindling.
What about that is not a success, by neocon standards? I've been scoffing at it for so long that think I missed the point. It's not a question of if the surge is working -- it's about whom it's working for.
these Obama (and anti obama abook + kabong) threads are getting tiresome. lets talk about the candidate that is actually going to win. what do you think he brings to the office? what do you like/dislike about his policies?
easy on the 100 years of war. he meant that in regards to how we are still in korea, germany, and japan 60+ years later.
even for those who hate him, I think you better start giving him a closer look. at this rate, there is no way obama can beat mccain.
Word up to the man with enough cajones to start this thread on this board. Dunno bout McCain yet myself. Believe it or not I am a life long bleeding heart Democrat who has only cast one vote....ever.....for a Republican. And it was not George W. I will be thinking long and hard about McCain as will many middle of the road Dems if Obama is nominated. That's fact. Not opinion. Whether I vote for the man really depends on alot of intangibles that no one can predict. The war is but one factor. Ultimately, it IS about the economy stupid. The war is but one factor in that equation and I do not agree that pulling out of Iraq with no conditions attached is good for our economy OR the global economy and I do not trust any candidate who makes blanket statements about the War when it is a fluid situation. McCain is the most honest about the War of the three candidates, like him or not. So if the vote were today I would vote McCain. But I can be persuaded.
Today's anti-semites channel their hatred or intolerance into uninformed bias against all things Israel. There are a few like that on this board. We know who they are.
So anyone who criticises the illegal ocupation is an anti-semite?
As far as being uninformed...maybe you can enlighten us to the truth, seeing as you regard yourself as an original thinker?
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Immature attacks to the OP and others that post here.....yeah there is no shortage. Posting humorous photos is the same now according to you?
What exactly are you attempting to call me out on?
Are you John McCain?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Hey, that's my line:D
So you are calling me a racist?
nice work..
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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you posts are for all to see. you aren't fooling anyone
Either are you for that matter
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Jeff I didn't see roland say that the holocaust didn't happen or barely happened.
I don't think it's right to call someone an anti semite for the sake of point scoring.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
i think the sad thing is that you are going to have other people in the party not do the same thing and people will blame McCain for it. i have a feeling that if McCain goes agianst Obama (which i think is going to happen) you will see 2 clean campaigns execpt you will see dirty ads run by people not apart of the campaign.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
I'll be honest, I've been struggling with this as well. I'm not too sure the tax cut policies and continued spending in Iraq is good. My vote is going to mccain as of now, more on the fact that obama/clinton are worse IMO. I will listen closely to the debates that happen later this year and I may very well change my mind.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
mccain is bush in a war veteran's uniform. no real differences.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Really? Because I think Bush and McCain would both be offended by that remark. McCain has been a thorn in the side of the Republican rank and file for most of his career. He's fucking proud of that shit.
I don't know where this McBush shit comes from, because it really couldn't be further from the truth.
for the least they could possibly do
And then there's that other possibility, the one that's starting to scare me: That by a certain neocon definition, Iraq is a success.
What if the war in Iraq did go on for 100 years, as McCain suggested it might? What are we looking at? An entire century of ever-increasing military spending, necessitating deep cuts in all other government programs -- like public education and health care and all that other sissy stuff. A staging ground for ten decades of warfare with Islamist militants, for whom the place is becoming a terrorist fantasy camp ("Come to Iraq and fight real Americans in your own back yard! Get your picture taken with real al Qaeda pros! Learn the fundamentals of blowing yourself up!"). And endless, lucrative contracts for American companies that support the war effort, from Grumman to Raytheon to -- of course -- Halliburton. Companies that in the absence of a Cold War might otherwise see their prospects dwindling.
What about that is not a success, by neocon standards? I've been scoffing at it for so long that think I missed the point. It's not a question of if the surge is working -- it's about whom it's working for.
Side Projects/Solo Shows: Brad 10/27/02, Eddie Vedder: 8/2/08, 6/8 & 6/9/09, 6/16/11 & 6/18/11.
Word up to the man with enough cajones to start this thread on this board. Dunno bout McCain yet myself. Believe it or not I am a life long bleeding heart Democrat who has only cast one vote....ever.....for a Republican. And it was not George W. I will be thinking long and hard about McCain as will many middle of the road Dems if Obama is nominated. That's fact. Not opinion. Whether I vote for the man really depends on alot of intangibles that no one can predict. The war is but one factor. Ultimately, it IS about the economy stupid. The war is but one factor in that equation and I do not agree that pulling out of Iraq with no conditions attached is good for our economy OR the global economy and I do not trust any candidate who makes blanket statements about the War when it is a fluid situation. McCain is the most honest about the War of the three candidates, like him or not. So if the vote were today I would vote McCain. But I can be persuaded.
So anyone who criticises the illegal ocupation is an anti-semite?
As far as being uninformed...maybe you can enlighten us to the truth, seeing as you regard yourself as an original thinker?
No. Just you.
Just me.
But it's nothing personal though is it.