The prevalence of mental illnesses in children and adolescents is significant and is on the rise according to the latest research and information. An estimated 1 in 10 children and adolescents in the United States suffers from mental illness severe enough to cause some level of impairment. Fewer than 1 in 5 of these ill children receives treatment.
According to a recent study - the largest ever undertaken -- an alarming 65% of boys and 75% of girls in juvenile detention have at least one psychiatric diagnosis. (Teplin, L. Archives of General Psychiam, Vol. 59, December 2002) Also, NAMI’s 1999 report Families on the Brink showed that in over 36% of the cases, youth were placed in the juvenile justice system to access mental health services.
The long-term consequences of untreated mental illnesses in youth are staggering. Suicide is the third leading cause of death in adolescents aged 15 to 24. (Centers for Disease Con&ol, 1999) Evidence strongly suggests that as many as 90% of those who commit suicide have a diagnosable mental disorder. (Institute of Medicine Report, 2002 and Surgeon General, 1999)
In contrast, some claim that there is a widespread practice of inappropriately labeling children as mentally ill and drugging them with “heavy, mind-altering drugs.“’ These assertions are not supported by either existing research or science. In fact, the available evidence shows that even while increased prescription of medications for children has occurred, the much more pressing issue is the number of children with mental illnesses that are not being diagnosed and treated.2 Public policy addressing the treatment of mental illnesses in children and adolescents must be founded on science and shaped by research and scientific evidence, not political or religious ideology or stigma and discrimination that persists against mental illnesses. In fact, scare tactics can only harm the public health. http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:saJTle241voJ:www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/dockets/04n0330/04n-0330-ts00001-02-vol1.pdf+kids+on+psychotropics+site:fda.gov&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2
Interesting, it's not explicitly stated how many kids are on psychotropics. However we can infer it from the 10% of kids who are diagnosed mentally ill and the 20% of those that actually receive treatment. The population of the United States as of 2007 estimate is 302,552,000.
6,051,040 kids on pyschotropics according to the NAM report to the FDA. So someone is inflating that number. The number I get is 2% of the U.S. population. Not such a large number any more.
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17, 000, 000 American kids on psychotropics. That's rather dubious, to me. How did the human race make it this far?
I put my one-time teenager on psychiatric medication. I thought she had a chemical imbalance and would need to take meds for life. I did exactly what I thought was proper in order to take care of my poor diseased daughter, given my own model for interpreting life. She rebelled and began running away with regularity (oh, and not taking her meds). And she began reading Nietsche and Camus. Eventually, I learned a lot from her.
I ultimately came to develop a newer more empowering subjective model of reality, which served our purposes and changed the outcome for my kids. The model I once used wherein I saw them as diseased perpetuated disease. The one where I acknowledged our strengths and our ability to overcome whatever we face perpetuated our empowerment.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Your original concern was that science was being discredited.
Maybe you should try elaborating on that.
Some people are offended by the word "fuck."
Apparently you're offended by the word, "soul."
Please explain.
Please give me a scientific explanation on the quantitative offensiveness of those words.
Science being discredited is a general theme on here. I've always stuck to the topic, perhaps you just don't understand the connection. Either way, you are only being an antagonist on here. That's all you ever do.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Interesting, it's not explicitly stated how many kids are on psychotropics. However we can infer it from the 10% of kids who are diagnosed mentally ill and the 20% of those that actually receive treatment. The population of the United States as of 2007 estimate is 302,552,000.
6,051,040 kids on pyschotropics according to the NAM report to the FDA. So someone is inflating that number. The number I get is 2% of the U.S. population. Not such a large number any more.
I'm not following your numbers. The point is, is that there is billion dollar industry in the mix, and people are getting warehoused through "treatment" under false pretenses, and a prescription drug.
Science being discredited is a general theme on here. I've always stuck to the topic, perhaps you just don't understand the connection. Either way, you are only being an antagonist on here. That's all you ever do.
Dude, you don't have half the intelligence you think you do. And it's pathetic.
I'm not following your numbers. The point is, is that there is billion dollar industry in the mix, and people are getting warehoused through "treatment" under false pretenses, and a prescription drug.
You can't argue me with wild and speculative claims. Try doing some research.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It's good to keep in mind that for example, the science people who reseach "dis-ease" and who develop chemical treatments have one agenda. That agenda is very different than the pharmaceutical marketing teams who have a business approach in marketing medications for the making of billions of dollars. Mental health professionals do not have a vested interest in healing and curing measures (especially ones the patient can do independently), but rather in measures that will keep a clientele coming back for "treatment". Somewhere along the lines, words like "Possible genetic predisposition" become "These disorders are genetic and require chemical treatment for life".
Unfortunately, the mental health professionals may slant information also in order to "encourage" ( /coerce) patients to take such meds, as they have a limited arsenal of tools.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Dude, you don't have half the intelligence you think you do. And it's pathetic.
Now, stick to the fucking topic.
I'm guessing you don't know what intelligence is, since you are claiming it is a measurable quality. That has always been in dispute.
New research in cognitive neuroscience is revealing the fact that intelligence is not a broadly measurable quality. Intelligence is typically subject matter dependant and more synonymous with aquired knowledge than an innate ability to manufacture facts.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I'm guessing you don't know what intelligence is, since you are claiming it is a measurable quality. That has always been in dispute.
New research in cognitive neuroscience is revealing the fact that intelligence is not a broadly measurable quality. Intelligence is typically subject matter dependant and more synonymous with aquired knowledge than an innate ability to manufacture facts.
According to you it's a picture on a piece of paper.
I'm guessing you don't know what intelligence is, since you are claiming it is a measurable quality. That has always been in dispute.
New research in cognitive neuroscience is revealing the fact that intelligence is not a broadly measurable quality. Intelligence is typically subject matter dependant and more synonymous with aquired knowledge than an innate ability to manufacture facts.
What cognitive neuroscience is doing is revealing their own model of what intelligence is.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
It's good to keep in mind that for example, the science people who reseach "dis-ease" and who develop chemical treatments have one agenda. That agenda is very different than the pharmaceutical marketing teams who have a business approach in marketing medications for the making of billions of dollars. Mental health professionals do not have a vested interest in healing and curing measures (especially ones the patient can do independently), but rather in measures that will keep a clientele coming back for "treatment". Somewhere along the lines, words like "Possible genetic predisposition" become "These disorders are genetic and require chemical treatment for life".
Unfortunately, the mental health professionals may slant information also in order to "encourage" ( /coerce) patients to take such meds, as they have a limited arsenal of tools.
This is speculation. I could just as easily make the claim that all of your posts are motivated by your secret agenda to subvert science and perpetuate your paradigmatic beliefs in spiritual healing so you can become a cult master, enslave the people and lead them all to their death the next time hailey's comet passes through our orbit.
It's likely not true, but it's a claim similar to yours.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
What cognitive neuroscience is doing is revealing their own model of what intelligence is.
A model that is objectively validated. Supported by science and fact. Not just wild speculation.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I'm not speculating. I'm providing the results of research by publically funded research institutions. I've provided insight into the current state of psychiatry.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
A model that is objectively validated. Supported by science and fact. Not just wild speculation.
Gue's model is objectively validated too. For example, I tend to agree with him on his views on intelligence, as do many others. I am viewing gue objectively.
Now if you're talking about the use of scientific instruments, well, that's another kind of model. Some give that a "higher" rank; others a "lower" one.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I'm not speculating. I'm providing the results of research by publically funded research institutions. I've provided insight into the current state of psychiatry.
You are speculating that "your" results trump other sets of results and other views and other methodologies.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Gue's model is objectively validated too. For example, I tend to agree with him on his views on intelligence, as do many others. I am viewing gue objectively.
Now if you're talking about the use of scientific instruments, well, that's another kind of model. Some give that a "higher" rank; others a "lower" one.
This goes back to your theme of subverting science to support your agenda. Only when your ideology is in discontinuity with the facts, otherwise you stand firmly behind them. This is a perverted philosophical trick for "proving" your point. The cost of which is that you are claiming "proof" to be impossible and thus all theories and opinions have equal validity, bordering on Pyrrhonism. Except Pyrrhonists like OutOfBreath don't assent to any positive claims as you do, because the logical end of such defeatism is that no claim can be validated or supported without being hypocritical.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
This goes back to your theme of subverting science to support your agenda. Only when your ideology is in discontinuity with the facts, otherwise you stand firmly behind them. This is a perverted philosophical trick for "proving" your point. The cost of which is that you are claiming "proof" to be impossible and thus all theories and opinions have equal validity, bordering on Pyrrhonism. Except Pyrrhonists like OutOfBreath don't assent to any positive claims as you do, because the logical end of such defeatism is that no claim can be validated or supported without being hypocritical.
You are speculating that "your" results trump other sets of results and other views and other methodologies.
My results are from the largest most in-depth research ever performed by a publicly funded institution in the country in question. These other results are unfounded claims, no citations provided, nothing, just Gue's word and some 2-bit shockumentary film. Of course the results I provided, which are not "My" results, but the results of the U.S. government trump wild speculation and manufactured fiction.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
My results are from the largest most in-depth research ever performed by a publicly funded institution in the country in question. These other results are unfounded claims, no citations provided, nothing, just Gue's word and some 2-bit shockumentary film. Of course the results I provided, which are not "My" results, but the results of the U.S. government trump wild speculation and manufactured fiction.
You don't even know what I said Gue. You likely didn't even try to comprehend it. You are an antogonist. I've read enough of your posts to know that you get off on antagonizing people, you never provide any citations for your claims and I doubt you believe them yourself.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
You don't even know what I said Gue. You likely didn't even try to comprehend it. You are an antogonist. I've read enough of your posts to know that you get off on antagonizing people, you never provide any citations for your claims and I doubt you believe them yourself.
My results are from the largest most in-depth research ever performed by a publicly funded institution in the country in question. These other results are unfounded claims, no citations provided, nothing, just Gue's word and some 2-bit shockumentary film. Of course the results I provided, which are not "My" results, but the results of the U.S. government trump wild speculation and manufactured fiction.
right.....the more men in suits back you up mean you MUST be right. Did you know that's a marketing/psychological ploy? To convince people you have powerful or vast groups supporting your "product", "service" etc?
Whether you know it's a trick or not, I know....
In the end, opinions remain opinions.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I understand why you are taking the position you are though. Your behavior is characteristic of someone with mental health issues. You carry on conversations with yourself, make totally irrelevant, yet provocative statements and you get a kick out of antagonizing people into a useless arguement. Sounds like you need some Fluoxetine bud.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I understand why you are taking the position you are though. Your behavior is characteristic of someone with mental health issues. You carry on conversations with yourself, make totally irrelevant, yet provocative statements and you get a kick out of antagonizing people into a useless arguement. Sounds like you need some Fluoxetine bud.
ah...the "revert to the methods epitomized in the videos" ploy, huh? Revert to the ole social-psycho control, eh??
*smiles and nods*
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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Let's investigate that claim, shall we?
FDA
Interesting, it's not explicitly stated how many kids are on psychotropics. However we can infer it from the 10% of kids who are diagnosed mentally ill and the 20% of those that actually receive treatment. The population of the United States as of 2007 estimate is 302,552,000.
6,051,040 kids on pyschotropics according to the NAM report to the FDA. So someone is inflating that number. The number I get is 2% of the U.S. population. Not such a large number any more.
I ultimately came to develop a newer more empowering subjective model of reality, which served our purposes and changed the outcome for my kids. The model I once used wherein I saw them as diseased perpetuated disease. The one where I acknowledged our strengths and our ability to overcome whatever we face perpetuated our empowerment.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Science being discredited is a general theme on here. I've always stuck to the topic, perhaps you just don't understand the connection. Either way, you are only being an antagonist on here. That's all you ever do.
I'm not following your numbers. The point is, is that there is billion dollar industry in the mix, and people are getting warehoused through "treatment" under false pretenses, and a prescription drug.
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Dude, you don't have half the intelligence you think you do. And it's pathetic.
Now, stick to the fucking topic.
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You can't argue me with wild and speculative claims. Try doing some research.
Unfortunately, the mental health professionals may slant information also in order to "encourage" ( /coerce) patients to take such meds, as they have a limited arsenal of tools.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
There is nothing wild or speculative about it. It's concern. You know, concern. It's a word. Look it up.
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I'm guessing you don't know what intelligence is, since you are claiming it is a measurable quality. That has always been in dispute.
New research in cognitive neuroscience is revealing the fact that intelligence is not a broadly measurable quality. Intelligence is typically subject matter dependant and more synonymous with aquired knowledge than an innate ability to manufacture facts.
'nuff said.
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This is speculation. I could just as easily make the claim that all of your posts are motivated by your secret agenda to subvert science and perpetuate your paradigmatic beliefs in spiritual healing so you can become a cult master, enslave the people and lead them all to their death the next time hailey's comet passes through our orbit.
It's likely not true, but it's a claim similar to yours.
A model that is objectively validated. Supported by science and fact. Not just wild speculation.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I'm not speculating. I'm providing the results of research by publically funded research institutions. I've provided insight into the current state of psychiatry.
Now if you're talking about the use of scientific instruments, well, that's another kind of model. Some give that a "higher" rank; others a "lower" one.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Or maybe he's just one of those "authority-is-truth" clowns.
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This goes back to your theme of subverting science to support your agenda. Only when your ideology is in discontinuity with the facts, otherwise you stand firmly behind them. This is a perverted philosophical trick for "proving" your point. The cost of which is that you are claiming "proof" to be impossible and thus all theories and opinions have equal validity, bordering on Pyrrhonism. Except Pyrrhonists like OutOfBreath don't assent to any positive claims as you do, because the logical end of such defeatism is that no claim can be validated or supported without being hypocritical.
Not that I don't think he has the potential to be better.
hehee.
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And you're not.
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My results are from the largest most in-depth research ever performed by a publicly funded institution in the country in question. These other results are unfounded claims, no citations provided, nothing, just Gue's word and some 2-bit shockumentary film. Of course the results I provided, which are not "My" results, but the results of the U.S. government trump wild speculation and manufactured fiction.
Bigger is better!
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You don't even know what I said Gue. You likely didn't even try to comprehend it. You are an antogonist. I've read enough of your posts to know that you get off on antagonizing people, you never provide any citations for your claims and I doubt you believe them yourself.
I'm not here in the name of science.
Try as you might, you aren't either.
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Whether you know it's a trick or not, I know....
In the end, opinions remain opinions.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I understand why you are taking the position you are though. Your behavior is characteristic of someone with mental health issues. You carry on conversations with yourself, make totally irrelevant, yet provocative statements and you get a kick out of antagonizing people into a useless arguement. Sounds like you need some Fluoxetine bud.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
*smiles and nods*
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!