I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
YUP!!! And there it is girl!!! The very reason why I'll never give birth!!!
Babies are beautiful little creatures, and kids are lovely, but be dammned I'm going through anything even remotely like that!! Call me chicken, I don't care! I much prefer to think of myself as well informed!! I can barely cope with the gynaecologist and all their tortures!! Be damned I'm gonna put myself in a situation that reminds me so much of the movie Aliens.
LOL
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yeah, and we still clearly live in a culture where a vagina is considered shameful. It shows on many levels.
I'm not sure what it would take to make you happy angelica. Should all women just walk around shamelssly displaying their vaginas for all the world to see?
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
I'm not sure what it would take to make you happy angelica. Should all women just walk around shamelssly displaying their vaginas for all the world to see?
I'm not sure where this is coming from.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Well, you keep criticising the culture that considers a vagina a shameful thing. It sounds more like an automatic feminist response than a genuine well thought out concern to me. I'm just curious about how you think vaginas shold be treated instead.
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
I'm not sure what it would take to make you happy angelica. Should all women just walk around shamelssly displaying their vaginas for all the world to see?
Where I live we are about one inch away from this !! Buut crack is certainly on constant display, and the new way to avoid a panty line for many girls is to go commando !!
Should all women just walk around shamelssly displaying their vaginas for all the world to see?
All women? Oh god ...HELL no...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Where I live we are about one inch away from this !! Buut crack is certainly on constant display, and the new way to avoid a panty line for many girls is to go commando !!
Yeah, gotta love that about the gold coast. The old camel toes . . . except for old men on the beach in bright green g-strings. That traumatised me forever.
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
Well, you keep criticising the culture that considers a vagina a shameful thing. It sounds more like an automatic feminist response than a genuine well thought out concern to me. I'm just curious about how you think vaginas shold be treated instead.
Do you realize I am not a feminist? Anyone who pays attention to the feminist debates I partake of knows I am not a feminist.
So what's this about my theory not being well thought out?
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
To respond further to Ms HAiku, I haven't seen this. Anyone want to fill us in on some detail, but no youtube links please, c o m p u t e r t o o s l o w .
To respond further to Ms HAiku, I haven't seen this. Anyone want to fill us in on some detail, but no youtube links please, c o m p u t e r t o o s l o w .
To respond further to Ms HAiku, I haven't seen this. Anyone want to fill us in on some detail, but no youtube links please, c o m p u t e r t o o s l o w .
Here's the wiki link, I posted way back on page 2 of the thread lucy.
Must have got lost in the language discussion!!!!
Thank you, even that short excerpt answers the question directed to Angelica about "what do you want for vaginas".
It's not about public display, or even public discussion. It's more about ackowledging that vaginas exist, that they should be understood by their owners. That women can look at, touch, wash, examine and maintain them without that being a shameful or immoral act. Probably even that a husband can participate in that stuff without goign red or silent. Ackowledging that when they bleed, that they are just doing their job, and not confirming teh intrinsically sinful nature of women.
It's about women being able to say "I have a vagina" with as much or as little comfort as a man can say "I have a penis", or I have an asshole ( or I am an asshole, as teh case may be).
MOre though, for women to think positively about their own genitalia. I have always been mystified by how many girls thnik their privates are ugly. I'm thinking the vagina monologues are mostly about women casting off women's oppression of them, rather than men's oppression.
It is, after all, women who say "ladies don't do this or that", not men.
Where did you see it rigney? And which monologues were performed?
I saw it at the community college here in Henderson. The names of the monologues I remember are "My angry vagina," "My Vagina Was My Village," "The Woman Who Loved to Make Vaginas Happy," and "Because He Liked to Look At It." I forgot the names of some others, like the one about the old woman and her "cellar", the smells of womens' vaginas, what their vagina would say, what their vagina would wear, and probably a few others that I can't think of right now.
Do you realize I am not a feminist? Anyone who pays attention to the feminist debates I partake of knows I am not a feminist.
So what's this about my theory not being well thought out?
I'm not sure what your theory is. That's what I meant. You keep bemoaning the fact that a vagina is a shameful thing in our society, but I don't understand how you would have us act instead.
I guess what I mean is that I don't feel that there is any more shame or stigma attached to female bits than to male bits, and you seem to feel that there is. Maybe I just got the wrong impression from quickly skimming through the thread and noticing a few of your posts?
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
Thank you, even that short excerpt answers the question directed to Angelica about "what do you want for vaginas".
It's not about public display, or even public discussion. It's more about ackowledging that vaginas exist, that they should be understood by their owners. That women can look at, touch, wash, examine and maintain them without that being a shameful or immoral act. Probably even that a husband can participate in that stuff without goign red or silent. Ackowledging that when they bleed, that they are just doing their job, and not confirming teh intrinsically sinful nature of women.
It's about women being able to say "I have a vagina" with as much or as little comfort as a man can say "I have a penis", or I have an asshole ( or I am an asshole, as teh case may be).
MOre though, for women to think positively about their own genitalia. I have always been mystified by how many girls thnik their privates are ugly.
Bravo!
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I'm not sure what your theory is. That's what I meant. You keep bemoaning the fact that a vagina is a shameful thing in our society, but I don't understand how you would have us act instead.
I guess what I mean is that I don't feel that there is any more shame or stigma attached to female bits than to male bits, and you seem to feel that there is. Maybe I just got the wrong impression from quickly skimming through the thread and noticing a few of your posts?
I keep "bemoaning".....?
If you think sexuality is openly dealt with in western culture, great. I happen to feel otherwise. And frankly, I'm not interested in answering questions about my perspective as a woman raised in this society with someone who is obviously coming at me with judgments, straw men to tear down, and using terms such as "bemoaning" out of the gate.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Hey, I just wanted to throw some gory details at you to see how you'd respond. And here you go getting all serious on me. :rolleyes:
While we're on the topic.......I can't recall the last time any female shared with me the details of her menstuation in terms of texture/consistency/content.
Hahahaha... you beat me to it I can honestely say I have NEVER discussed, NOR had a friend discuss texture/consistency/content the idea of it is hilarious . It's basically like saying 'I have the flu', you don't say 'wow, I blew my nose this morning and my snot was yellow with little bits of green in it and there may have been a bit of blood too and it was really thick and lumpy' C'mon... is this what men think we talk about :eek: No wonder they don't wanna hear the word.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
there's so many people in this thread who need a good banging
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
I saw it at the community college here in Henderson. The names of the monologues I remember are "My angry vagina," "My Vagina Was My Village," "The Woman Who Loved to Make Vaginas Happy," and "Because He Liked to Look At It." I forgot the names of some others, like the one about the old woman and her "cellar", the smells of womens' vaginas, what their vagina would say, what their vagina would wear, and probably a few others that I can't think of right now.
Thanks rigney. Sounds like a great cross section of the monologues. And how cool that Because He Liked to Look at It was amongst them!!!
Right! Well you show me the fella with enough brains to get the job done properly and I'm in!
brains? you dont bang people with brains... thats why people who play chess and read plays are still virgins
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
'He earned bachelor's degrees in Education and Theater and a Master's degree in Special Education from Queens College, City University of New York.[13] He taught Special Education classes in the New York City area and was a substitute teacher for regular classes'.
Edit: He can also suck himself off. Now that's clever! :cool:
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http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
"the chorus is simply marijuana screamed over and over again."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moist_Vagina
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I'm not sure what it would take to make you happy angelica. Should all women just walk around shamelssly displaying their vaginas for all the world to see?
-C Addison
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Well, you keep criticising the culture that considers a vagina a shameful thing. It sounds more like an automatic feminist response than a genuine well thought out concern to me. I'm just curious about how you think vaginas shold be treated instead.
-C Addison
Where I live we are about one inch away from this !! Buut crack is certainly on constant display, and the new way to avoid a panty line for many girls is to go commando !!
All women? Oh god ...HELL no...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Yeah, gotta love that about the gold coast. The old camel toes
-C Addison
http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
So what's this about my theory not being well thought out?
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I love that play. I saw it a few weeks ago for the first time.
I am going to get a Vagina Warrior t-shirt.
http://cameltoe.org/history.html
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Here's a link on it:
http://www.randomhouse.com/features/ensler/vm/book.html
also check out vday.org
Where did you see it rigney? And which monologues were performed?
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
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Here's the wiki link, I posted way back on page 2 of the thread lucy.
Must have got lost in the language discussion!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vagina_Monologues
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Thank you, even that short excerpt answers the question directed to Angelica about "what do you want for vaginas".
It's not about public display, or even public discussion. It's more about ackowledging that vaginas exist, that they should be understood by their owners. That women can look at, touch, wash, examine and maintain them without that being a shameful or immoral act. Probably even that a husband can participate in that stuff without goign red or silent. Ackowledging that when they bleed, that they are just doing their job, and not confirming teh intrinsically sinful nature of women.
It's about women being able to say "I have a vagina" with as much or as little comfort as a man can say "I have a penis", or I have an asshole ( or I am an asshole, as teh case may be).
MOre though, for women to think positively about their own genitalia. I have always been mystified by how many girls thnik their privates are ugly. I'm thinking the vagina monologues are mostly about women casting off women's oppression of them, rather than men's oppression.
It is, after all, women who say "ladies don't do this or that", not men.
I saw it at the community college here in Henderson. The names of the monologues I remember are "My angry vagina," "My Vagina Was My Village," "The Woman Who Loved to Make Vaginas Happy," and "Because He Liked to Look At It." I forgot the names of some others, like the one about the old woman and her "cellar", the smells of womens' vaginas, what their vagina would say, what their vagina would wear, and probably a few others that I can't think of right now.
I'm not sure what your theory is. That's what I meant. You keep bemoaning the fact that a vagina is a shameful thing in our society, but I don't understand how you would have us act instead.
I guess what I mean is that I don't feel that there is any more shame or stigma attached to female bits than to male bits, and you seem to feel that there is. Maybe I just got the wrong impression from quickly skimming through the thread and noticing a few of your posts?
-C Addison
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
If you think sexuality is openly dealt with in western culture, great. I happen to feel otherwise. And frankly, I'm not interested in answering questions about my perspective as a woman raised in this society with someone who is obviously coming at me with judgments, straw men to tear down, and using terms such as "bemoaning" out of the gate.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Right!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Thanks rigney. Sounds like a great cross section of the monologues. And how cool that Because He Liked to Look at It was amongst them!!!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
brains? you dont bang people with brains... thats why people who play chess and read plays are still virgins
Ron Jeremy's your man!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_jeremy
'He earned bachelor's degrees in Education and Theater and a Master's degree in Special Education from Queens College, City University of New York.[13] He taught Special Education classes in the New York City area and was a substitute teacher for regular classes'.
Edit: He can also suck himself off. Now that's clever! :cool:
Yup! And there it is dunk! The reason I'll keep abstaining!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift