World would be worse off without faith...

catefrances

onelongsong wrote:

maybe it's your soul that needs the nuturing.

my soul resides in my head. and thus receives nurturing.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

I don't understand how an incomplete scientific understanding translates into a spiritual, metaphysical, thing. That's just a speculative leap into the complete unkown. Yet, that seems to be the general census here and around the world. The age-old line of thought that needs to be broken to make progress.

i've got to run for a bit but i'll try to find those links for you. it's medical science that proves him wrong. and no; it doesn't translate into anything. except maybe medicine vs phsycology. evidence you can touch vs thought.
i'm just too exhausted right now but i'll be back.

Collin

I don't have a soul either. I have a brain that likes me to believe I have one, but I don't. If you want to call my brain a soul, be my guest. But I'm not going to call it a soul.

Oddly enough I agree with what C.S. Lewis said:

You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

I am my brain.

onelongsong

catefrances wrote:

my soul resides in my head. and thus receives nurturing.

your aura surrounds you. if your soul resides in your head then those with brain damage wouldn't have a soul. and i'm using the word soul because it's the common venacular. it's not meant in any religious manner. i'm speaking of your being. i think; therefore i am. on that level.

onelongsong

Collin wrote:

I don't have a soul either. I have a brain that likes me to believe I have one, but I don't. If you want to call my brain a soul, be my guest. But I'm not going to call it a soul.

Oddly enough I agree with what C.S. Lewis said:

You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

I am my brain.

if you are your brain; and you get brain damage; then you are no more? if a child is born with say downs syndrome; is that child not a human being? if my grandfather contracts alshiemers and the lesions damage his brain; is he no longer my grandfather? has his being left and become something else?

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

if you are your brain; and you get brain damage; then you are no more? if a child is born with say downs syndrome; is that child not a human being? if my grandfather contracts alshiemers and the lesions damage his brain; is he no longer my grandfather? has his being left and become something else?

Bottom line, people change all the time.

catefrances

onelongsong wrote:

your aura surrounds you. if your soul resides in your head then those with brain damage wouldn't have a soul. and i'm using the word soul because it's the common venacular. it's not meant in any religious manner. i'm speaking of your being. i think; therefore i am. on that level.

MY soul resides in my head. where yours is i do not know. for me everything i am is within my mind.

Jeanie

onelongsong wrote:

if you are your brain; and you get brain damage; then you are no more? if a child is born with say downs syndrome; is that child not a human being? if my grandfather contracts alshiemers and the lesions damage his brain; is he no longer my grandfather? has his being left and become something else?

Thank you. Was just going to say that myself, but don't need to now.

Collin

onelongsong wrote:

if you are your brain; and you get brain damage; then you are no more? if a child is born with say downs syndrome; is that child not a human being? if my grandfather contracts alshiemers and the lesions damage his brain; is he no longer my grandfather? has his being left and become something else?

In all these cases you still have a functioning brain, so you are still a person. It might not be functioning as it was supposed to, but it's still there and functioning.

onelongsong

Collin wrote:

In all these cases you still have a functioning brain, so you are still a person. It might not be functioning as it was supposed to, but it's still there and functioning.

i'll find the links of those functioning without a brain.

Jeanie

Ahnimus wrote:

Bottom line, people change all the time.

Yes, but they are still in there Ahnimus. Regardless of the changes.
Still feel, still think, still "being" or "soul" regardless of whether they can communicate with the rest of us in a way that is understood or not.

angelica

Collin wrote:

I don't have a soul either. I have a brain that likes me to believe I have one, but I don't. If you want to call my brain a soul, be my guest. But I'm not going to call it a soul.

Oddly enough I agree with what C.S. Lewis said:

You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

I am my brain.

Do you see the difference between a chemical being responsible for the emotion of love, and between you feeling love for a beautiful woman? Do you see a difference between the chemical and the whole experience of love being acted out in 3-d?

Can you tell me where the quotation marks go on the quote, please?

Collin

onelongsong wrote:

i'll find the links of those functioning without a brain.

Please do.

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

i'll find the links of those functioning without a brain.

There are none.

If you remove a large portion of a child's brain their synaptogenesis will compensate for it, as synaptogenesis is the evolution-like process that creates the complex connections within our brains.

Removing part of the adult brain can cause side-effects but will not always cause death. See Phineas Gage.

Removing the entire brain from an animal will cause death.

Ahnimus

angelica wrote:

Do you see the difference between a chemical being responsible for the emotion of love, and between you feeling love for a beautiful woman? Do you see a difference between the chemical and the whole experience of love being acted out in 3-d?

Can you tell me where the quotation marks go on the quote, please?

One is epiphenomenal, the experience of love is ontologically subjective.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

Bottom line, people change all the time.

but your being doesn't. you are you. nothing will change that. you may change your way of thinking; where you live; your medical condition; anything and everything; but you will always be [your name]. no matter what bloody happens in your life; you will always be you.

onelongsong

Ahnimus wrote:

There are none.

If you remove a large portion of a child's brain their synaptogenesis will compensate for it, as synaptogenesis is the evolution-like process that creates the complex connections within our brains.

Removing part of the adult brain can cause side-effects but will not always cause death. See Phineas Gage.

Removing the entire brain from an animal will cause death.

wrong. there are several cases; one in particular where a college student had no brain to speak of. i'll find the links later.

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

but your being doesn't. you are you. nothing will change that. you may change your way of thinking; where you live; your medical condition; anything and everything; but you will always be [your name]. no matter what bloody happens in your life; you will always be you.

Ok, but that [you] is just a word to describe my current state of being. My state of being changes, and therefor the "you" or "me" of 5 years ago is not the "you" or "me" of now. It is neither mentally or physically the same.

onelongsong

Jeanie wrote:

Yes, but they are still in there Ahnimus. Regardless of the changes.
Still feel, still think, still "being" or "soul" regardless of whether they can communicate with the rest of us in a way that is understood or not.

cheers love. you got it!

Ahnimus

onelongsong wrote:

wrong. there are several cases; one in particular where a college student had no brain to speak of. i'll find the links later.

A human can operate with a brain the size of a pea, with complications.

I want you to provide evidence of a human operating with absolutely no brain. I want to see that their brain is non-existent. Not just relatively.