World would be worse off without faith...

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    onelongsong wrote:
    wrong site. i don't know what happened but i'm out the door.
    later

    http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/is_the_brain_really_necessary.htm

    it worked for me.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    wrong site. i don't know what happened but i'm out the door.
    later

    No, that is the same site. If you investigate who made the site, you'd see what I posted.

    His source: http://www.mysteries.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

    His source doesn't state who they are. ARIN (American Registry of Internet Numbers) doesn't recognize the URL as being registered either. The source of the claims are unknown.

    They refer to one subject as "James" and nothing else, no last name, no cited research. There is nothing linking these articles to facts. Several of the articles do not even mention names and the source seems to have an affinity for the paranormal.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    jesus of nazereth.......pa? no wonder artists think he's white.
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anencephaly

    Look up Anencephaly on wikipedia, no mention of any cases described in the article posted. In-fact it reads:

    "In almost all cases anencephalic infants are not aggressively resuscitated since there is no chance of the infant ever achieving a conscious existence. "

    Let's try Anencephaly.net they seem to know a lot about it

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=andrew+vandal+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.anencephaly.net%2F&meta=

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=james+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.anencephaly.net%2F&meta=

    Nope, those names don't show up there either. I'm finding it really difficult to find corroborating evidence, especially from a scientific institution.

    The National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke

    "What is the prognosis?
    The prognosis for individuals with anencephaly is extremely poor. If the infant is not stillborn, then he or she will usually die within a few hours or days after birth. [Editor's Note: The unborn child may have been diagnosed as having anencephaly, but be born with a less severe form of the disease, allowing the infant to live for years or more]"
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Well I'm glad this is working for both of you. :)

    I've just cracked a bottle of chardy. So cheers big ears! :D

    Now I'm going to go drink the lot and contemplate my navel. :)

    I'm sure when I get back you'll both be still at it.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    Well I'm glad this is working for both of you. :)

    I've just cracked a bottle of chardy. So cheers big ears! :D

    Now I'm going to go drink the lot and contemplate my navel. :)

    I'm sure when I get back you'll both be still at it.

    The clinical term is umbilicus :)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    Collin wrote:
    World would be worse off without faith in something greater than ourselves.

    But faith in something greater than ourselves is something entirely different.

    You ask what would stop us if no one believed in something greater. What stops atheists today? I seriously hope you don't mean Christians only do good because God is watching them and they might loose their ticket to Heaven if they do bad.

    Good point about atheists. I don't know what stops them, I can't speak for as one for I am not one. I consider myself spritual but not religious. I understand that is vague and I often contradict myself with my beliefs, maybe part of being human.

    I speak from things happening in my life that have led me to certain spots, I have felt watched over, comfortable, rescued and the like. I would like to think it is more than luck but maybe it is just that.

    I do think that atheists might still believe in something greater than themselves, maybe reason not to destroy each other without religion, maybe compassion for the earth.

    Again I did not intend for the statement to be specifically about religion although it could fit there.
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    hippiemom wrote:
    Bob Dylan is much, much greater than me. I'll put my faith in him.

    Great choice!!! :)
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    Good point about atheists. I don't know what stops them, I can't speak for as one for I am not one. I consider myself spritual but not religious. I understand that is vague and I often contradict myself with my beliefs, maybe part of being human.

    I speak from things happening in my life that have led me to certain spots, I have felt watched over, comfortable, rescued and the like. I would like to think it is more than luck but maybe it is just that.

    I do think that atheists might still believe in something greater than themselves, maybe reason not to destroy each other without religion, maybe compassion for the earth.

    Again I did not intend for the statement to be specifically about religion although it could fit there.

    I believe in luck and fate. With a very solid scientific backing.

    I guess you could consider that greater than I.

    I don't think it's an atheist's goal to make themselves the top of the food chain. I think it's to uncover the truth beneath the fiction.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I believe in luck and fate. With a very solid scientific backing.

    I guess you could consider that greater than I.

    I don't think it's an atheist's goal to make themselves the top of the food chain. I think it's to uncover the truth beneath the fiction.

    Is fate greater than yourself, since you cannot control it? Or can you contorl it?
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    Is fate greater than yourself, since you cannot control it? Or can you contorl it?

    Can't control fate.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The clinical term is umbilicus :)

    shit ryan, could you be any more anal. :rolleyes: :D:p
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I don't think it's an atheist's goal to make themselves the top of the food chain. I think it's to uncover the truth beneath the fiction.

    That might be very scary to many people depending on what the "truth" is.
    "She knows there is no success like failure
    And that failure's no success at all."

    "Don't ya think its sometimes wise not to grow up."

    "Cause life ain't nothing but a good groove
    A good mixed tape to put you in the right mood."
  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    fate is a fink
    d'oh!!!!!!

    http://www.myspace.com/brain_of_c
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    catefrances wrote:
    shit ryan, could you be any more anal. :rolleyes: :D:p

    I'm just teasing Jeanie, cause she said she was going to contemplate her navel.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm just teasing Jeanie, cause she said she was going to contemplate her navel.


    :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p and I'd do more but I'm too drunk now to be bothered! But you get my drift! May as well contemplate my f**kin' navel. Oh wait! My umbilicus! :p No one else is! Gee Ryan how come this is sooooo important to you fellas? Actually, scrap that! Who cares? You just keep lobbing back and forth. I'm gonna finish the chardy! Not that anybody gives a shit!
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Jeanie wrote:
    :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p and I'd do more but I'm too drunk now to be bothered! But you get my drift! May as well contemplate my f**kin' navel. Oh wait! My umbilicus! :p No one else is! Gee Ryan how come this is sooooo important to you fellas? Actually, scrap that! Who cares? You just keep lobbing back and forth. I'm gonna finish the chardy! Not that anybody gives a shit!

    The issue of God and Free-will are very important to me. If I can uproot free-will God will crash as well. The two depend on each other.

    Also, it's a simple fact that we have no free-will.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm just teasing Jeanie, cause she said she was going to contemplate her navel.

    yeah i got it ryan. hence my little tongue action. :p
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    needn't be God, or faith. I don't belong to any organized religion. I just believe there is a "life force", if you will, that we all are a part of, and should nurture and take care of. If you keep it simple, it's a hell of a lot easier to accept. Treat each other, and the planet, with respect and kindness, and you really don't need all that other stuff.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    catefrances wrote:
    yeah i got it ryan. hence my little tongue action. :p

    Well he got more from me!! :D:D:D:D
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift

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