Palin: God will do the right thing on election day

JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
In an interview posted online Wednesday, Sarah Palin told Dr. James Dobson of “Focus on the Family” that she is confident God will do “the right thing for America” on Nov. 4.

Dobson asked the vice presidential hopeful if she is concerned about John McCain’s sagging poll numbers, but Palin stressed that she was “not discouraged at all.”

“To me, it motivates us, makes us work that much harder,” she told the influential Christian leader, whose radio show reaches tens of millions of listeners daily. “And it also strengthens my faith because I know at the end of the day putting this in God’s hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4.”



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/22/palin-god-will-do-the-right-thing-on-election-day/

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http://www.citizenlink.org/clspecialalert/A000008476.cfm
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  • Maybe the rapture will take place and the rest of us can finally live in peace.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,502
    JSBE wrote:
    In an interview posted online Wednesday, Sarah Palin told Dr. James Dobson of “Focus on the Family” that she is confident God will do “the right thing for America” on Nov. 4.

    I hope he does too, GOVERNOR Palin!
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  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02
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  • wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

    I want to go to your church.:)
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  • so if Dems are elected, god made a mistake or is that God doing the right thing for America?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,502
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

    Thank you!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    I want to go to your church.:)

    I would love for you to come to my church!
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    imalive wrote:
    Thank you!

    Your welcome.
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,762
    Maybe God will again come down and bust election booths and de-register voters.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02


    How can this be??! This has to be a joke!

    If you believe the wackos on this board, all Christian churches and pastors are out there threatening their congregations to vote Republican.

    I guess that's what you get when you live with your head in the sand.
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  • iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

    I wish more churches would feel the same way and stop feeling like they have to be mouthpieces for the Republican party, or any political party for that matter.
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  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

    Have you ever tried to replace part of the biblical readings with pearl jam lyrics and see if anybody notices? :)
  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    iamica wrote:
    I wish more churches would feel the same way and stop feeling like they have to be mouthpieces for the Republican party, or any political party for that matter.

    Just to make a point, I'm not speaking for my congregation, which is most likely overwhelmingly Republican. However, I do not know one theologically educated Christian pastor that is a rabid partisan either way. Most theologically trained people see too big of a "picture" to be extreme partisans (and I would assume this to be the case for most people who have studied any type of history in depth - for us seminary grads, we've studied Church History, giving us a big picture of the Christian Church).

    I'm also a bit of a U.S. history buff...I'm currently 50 pages from completing Sean Wilentz's MASSIVE tome "The Rise of American Democracy", which has helped keep me grounded during the election season.

    Theologically speaking, I'm a bit puzzled by many people's insistence that our President be a Pastor-in-Chief. If we can learn anything relevant from the history of Israel and the history of the Roman Empire, it is that a quasi-theocracy administered by radicals DOES NOT WORK.
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  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    Speakers wrote:
    Have you ever tried to replace part of the biblical readings with pearl jam lyrics and see if anybody notices? :)

    no...but that would make for interesting sermon construction...one springs to mind immediately:

    "he still gives his love, he just gives it away, the love he receives is the love that is saved"

    or

    "I've got memories, I've got shit"

    whichever
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    wcsmith wrote:
    no...but that would make for interesting sermon construction...one springs to mind immediately:

    "he still gives his love, he just gives it away, the love he receives is the love that is saved"

    or

    "I've got memories, I've got shit"

    whichever

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  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    "I never sucked Satan's dick"

    touche
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  • Speakers wrote:
    Have you ever tried to replace part of the biblical readings with pearl jam lyrics and see if anybody notices? :)

    Hahahahaha

    I want to start a religion based on pearl jam and live tax free!
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Hahahahaha

    I want to start a religion based on pearl jam and live tax free!

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I cannot believe that in the year 2008 A.D. that people still believe that God cares who you vote for in a polling booth. Doesn't He have better things to do... you know, like being the omnipotent force in the Universe that drives the galaxies and guides the stars?
    And if Obabma wins the Election... isn't that God 'Doing the right thing'? Or is it God.. forsaking Sarah Palin and all the Christians?
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I'm trying very hard to give her the benefit of the doubt, and assume she was saying something along the lines of "no matter what happens, God has a plan"....that kind of thing. Although considering the jackass she was talking to, I sort of doubt that.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Are you saying it's bad to believe in God? Because clearly, most people who believe in a God, believe he/she has power over everything, including miniscule things like elections. Hence, the term God.
  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    I can get down with wcsmith's approach to religion in politics.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I want to go to your church.:)

    I thought the same thing, I want to see his church.

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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    saveuplife wrote:
    Are you saying it's bad to believe in God? Because clearly, most people who believe in a God, believe he/she has power over everything, including miniscule things like elections. Hence, the term God.

    I think the notion that God has picked the side of the Republicans in this race, as Palin may or may not hint here (I'm not touching that one) would anger and irritate Obama's Christian supporters.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    digster wrote:
    I think the notion that God has picked the side of the Republicans in this race, as Palin may or may not hint here (I'm not touching that one) would anger and irritate Obama's Christian supporters.


    She didn't hint at that at all. She said she thinks God will do the right thing. She believes the right thing to be picking McCain. But, that doesn't she means she knows the right thing according to God.

    I don't get the argument against what she said unless it's an argument against having faith in God. Therefore, I don't get this thread.
  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    wcsmith wrote:
    I'm a Christian. In fact, I'm a United Methodist pastor who is voting for Obama. And Palin's comment is atrocious. God does not vote on election day, the citizens of the US vote on election day. This clearly shows Palin's (a) lack of political gravity - what could she seriously contribute to the ongoing project of American democracy: Franklin, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, FDR, Kennedy, Reagan, Clinton...Palin? Give me a break...and (b) Palin has no theological acumen whatsoever. The theological implications raised by her statement are staggering. Not to mention the practical implications if she were to be the VP, or God forbid, the President.

    my .02

    I wish my brother thought like you. He is also a United Methodist Minister and very well educated. However, I don't think he is as open minded. Maybe I'm wrong. We don't communicate about God, religion, politics, or social issues so maybe he has moderated in the last few years. We don't talk about those issues because we disagree. I am the "black sheep" in our family because I stopped attending church several years ago, I don't blindly follow the Republican party, I don't have children, I'm divorced (but married to current husband for 10+ years), and I do animal rescue instead of evangelizing.
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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    Dr. Dobson said he and a group "prayed for a miracle in this election." Does that mean that McCain winning would be a miracle for America? Does it mean that it would take a miracle for McCain to win?

    I understand that Dr. Dobson is not a reverend for a particular church, but I believe those folks who are clergy members and who do offer endorsements from the pulpit should have their church's tax-exempt status rescinded.
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    saveuplife wrote:
    She didn't hint at that at all. She said she thinks God will do the right thing. She believes the right thing to be picking McCain. But, that doesn't she means she knows the right thing according to God.

    I don't get the argument against what she said unless it's an argument against having faith in God. Therefore, I don't get this thread.

    There's no point to an argument such as this one. I must say, though, that I'm pretty surprised that you feel there is not even a "hint" of that, however inadvertently. I wonder if you're reading

    Speaking personally as a Christian supporting Obama, I'd be pretty annoyed at someone who intimated that my position is "ungodly." I think political position and support should be supported through reason; the notion that "God is on our side" has led to an awful lot of violent, disturbing arguments throughout our nation and our world's history. If you really think there was no hint of that in Palin's remarks, than I guess it wouldn't bother you. While it's possible that Palin did not mean that, I think it's a bit wild to think that a conclusion like the one I reached is ridiculous.

    That being said, this is the same person that just a few days ago said I wasn't a "real American", so is it that surprising that she would consider those who do not support her candidate anti-religion as well?
  • wcsmithwcsmith Posts: 165
    g under p wrote:
    I thought the same thing, I want to see his church.

    Peace

    Just to make it clear: I'm not speaking for my church, nor am I speaking for my denomination, nor am I speaking for the Christian faith. My church is a small-town, warm, loving, conservative church. I would venture a guess that 85-90% of my people would label themselves Republican and would be disappointed to learn that their new pastor (I've been here four months) is not voting for McCain.

    I also want to be clear that my 'lens' (hermeneutic, if you want to get all fancy) is primarily informed by Scripture, followed by reason, tradition, and experience (the so-called Wesleyan quadrilateral). My reasons for not supporting McCain are in part Scripturally based (it actually stems from a reading of Matthew, see 7:1-5 in relation to the scurrilous attacks on Obama, and Matthew 25:31-46 for my support of democratic economic policies).

    In my current church, I have to be very careful simply because I'm in the process of building relationships and trust with my new parishoners. My commitment to being their pastor outweighs my commitment to seeing Barack Obama win the presidency. BUT, in my previous job (youth minister in a VERY conservative church for 5 and 1/2 years) I was all kinds of radical Christian with the youth. One goal was to create subversive, critical thinkers who would think for themselves. I taught a lesson one time where I explained to them why I wouldn't say the Pledge of Allegiance. Still won't. I also taught them several lessons based on my opposition to the Iraq War. They also knew upfront that I did not support George W. Bush.

    Anyways, all that to say on a Sunday morning, my church doesn't look much different from any other southern United Methodist church. But if you stopped by my office for coffee on a Monday morning, our conversations would probably not be typical...
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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