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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    angelica wrote:
    When people pray for guidance, from God or their higher self, they are accessing their highest ideals. This is a good thing. Unfortunately, the message we get will only be as clear as the instrument doing the receiving. What may be the best choice that George Bush can receive during times of trouble may be a sad, pathetic choice for someone else.
    that George isn't as much a believer as he is a manipultor...and uses his spiratuality to further his agenda..........ah never mind...george is george. Now Karl and lesbian daughter with baby out of wedlock Cheney on the other hand....(-:
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  • UKDave
    UKDave Posts: 5,557
    angelica wrote:
    When people pray for guidance, from God or their higher self, they are accessing their highest ideals. This is a good thing. Unfortunately, the message we get will only be as clear as the instrument doing the receiving. What may be the best choice that George Bush can receive during times of trouble may be a sad, pathetic choice for someone else.

    Nicely put... ;)
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    UKDave wrote:
    Just wondered which you more comfortable with? him being an imbecile or being driven by god... ;)
    I will never think him invading Afghanistan was a stupid move or driven from God telling him.

    we were attacked by an organization that was based and protected in Afghanistan.

    Iraq, different story.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Interesting typo there. Except i'd say that Afghanistan and Iraq are not threads to America's national security, but threads to America's arms and oil trades.
    Iraq, i'm with you on that.

    but afgah?? seriously? you didnt see the taliban and el queda as a threat to american security? they attacked us remember ?
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    jlew24asu wrote:
    eh, ok. but he still invaded afgahistan and Iraq because he believed they were a thread to america's national security.

    ah, yes, but...catch-22...who guided him to that decision?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats fine, but lets face it. America, for the most part, is Christian country. God is very important to, just guessing, 80%-85% of Americans?

    and this is a democracy..but in my eyes isn't good for the country. Religion (any religion) shouldn't in any shape or form enter public politics. Seperate thread...I know. And I do believe in total freedom of religion...if you want to dress up in pink leotards (sp?) and dance in a circle praying to a banana tree I think its cool...just don't force me to do it.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    callen wrote:
    that George isn't as much a believer as he is a manipultor...and uses his spiratuality to further his agenda..........ah never mind...george is george. Now Karl and lesbian daughter with baby out of wedlock Cheney on the other hand....(-:
    My own perceptions tell me he milks the religion thing to further his agenda, much like his manipulation of other issues. At the same time, I'm completely convinced he also believes what he's saying re: God. I just believe the man is not a very visionary, conscious human being.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    UKDave wrote:
    Nicely put... ;)
    Thanks. :)
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    ah, yes, but...catch-22...who guided him to that decision?
    he did believe IRaq was a threat...misguided no doubt....but was a threat and used his advisers for his decision. Course I do wonder if subconciously he is fighting his religious war.....as are a good portion of christians in America.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    angelica wrote:
    My own perceptions tell me he milks the religion thing to further his agenda, much like his manipulation of other issues. At the same time, I'm completely convinced he also believes what he's saying re: God. I just believe the man is not a very visionary, conscious human being.
    to as many unscripted sessions with George as possible.....and really think he's a good ole boy...trying to fix things..and he is dependent on the ole mighty....sad but true.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    ah, yes, but...catch-22...who guided him to that decision?
    maybe a few planes flying into our buildings
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    callen wrote:
    he did believe IRaq was a threat...misguided no doubt....but was a threat and used his advisers for his decision. Course I do wonder if subconciously he is fighting his religious war.....as are a good portion of christians in America.

    I dont remember him asking muslims to convert to jesus do you?
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    callen wrote:
    he did believe IRaq was a threat...misguided no doubt....but was a threat and used his advisers for his decision. Course I do wonder if subconciously he is fighting his religious war.....as are a good portion of christians in America.

    okay, you missed it - where did he solidify that belief? on his prayer rug...and his contemplation of the "message" he received. i am not arguing here. just talking about how a statement about asking god for guidance leads to the conclusion that someone is doing something based on what god has led, guided, or told them to do when the action is started to relieve the situation for which guidance (from god) was asked.
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  • UKDave
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    I will never think him invading Afghanistan was a stupid move or driven from God telling him.

    we were attacked by an organization that was based and protected in Afghanistan.

    Iraq, different story.

    ...and I wasn't debating every decision he's made, we'd be here a long time with that one, just his process, even an imbecile will strike lucky now and again...
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  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    miller8966 wrote:
    I dont remember him asking muslims to convert to jesus do you?

    he never did that. but, there is a "war" between fringe christians and everyone else.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    miller8966 wrote:
    I dont remember him asking muslims to convert to jesus do you?
    just kill them. (-:
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    callen wrote:
    to as many unscripted sessions with George as possible.....and really think he's a good ole boy...trying to fix things..and he is dependent on the ole mighty....sad but true.
    It appears that he doesn't have much of his own vision, so he has to rely on it through faith. Most of the people who see through him are visionary types who see what the man himself does not. Visionary people are the minority, so for those who are blessed with awareness and inner-sight, such a blessing is for a reason, and to help counter balance the craziness surrounding us.
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  • bee_boy
    bee_boy Posts: 384
    callen wrote:
    just kill them. (-:

    Wow. That's pretty full on.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    UKDave wrote:
    ...and I wasn't debating every decision he's made, we'd be here a long time with that one, just his process, even an imbecile will strike lucky now and again...
    those are the two major decisions he's made....and as much as I hate war...we did need to take out the Taliban.
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  • RainDog
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats fine, but lets face it. America, for the most part, is Christian country. God is very important to, just guessing, 80%-85% of Americans?
    Currently, the United States is 78% Christian and 10% no religion, while other religions comprise 12% of the U.S. population. However, 58% of the U.S. population considers religion to be "very important." I got these states off of Wikipedia's "Religion in the United States" page.

    Good to know that I'm in the upper ten percent. ;)

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