Fucking Bullshit

miller8966

angelica wrote:

See next quote.





I don't believe he purposely let him go. I believe there's been a lot of incompetence going down, and that they are very happy to capitalise on it, like they have capitalised on 911 for years, milking people's basest emotions.

I disagree with this. I dont think the admin is milking peoples emotions with 9/11.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

atta boy callen. I knew I liked you for some reason

(-:

angelica

callen wrote:

I'm pretty certain he uses religion to further his cause...and I pretty much detest anyone that does that.....including George....so he's a bad boy....I do though get what your saying on the distorted info...no doubt..very one sided and more importantly self serving for the masses.

Totally one-sided. I don't trust anyone, period. I trust what my intuition tells me. And when I don't know, I say I don't know. I cannot afford to be wrong, and to support killing based on fear and false realities.

callen

miller8966 wrote:

I disagree with this. I dont think the admin is milking peoples emotions with 9/11.

kidding us right....I mean for real...wow...

hell they can't help it...even the dems use 9/11 on us...jeese...

norm

callen wrote:

with lots of freinds and hiding places....I don't think its as easy as you think to find him...really don't. Bush would just love to have him caught...you must know he's a broken man right now..and all the folks in his administration have egg on their face...so I just can't fathom they're purposefully keeping free.

I agree with what you're saying. But this administration has shown me nothing that they truly want to dismantle Al Queda or eliminate Osama. The only positive thought I have and what keeps the flicker of hope alive is that hopefully Osama is being hunted by the CIA. Hopefully there is a covert effort to catch him. But with the focus still on Iraq I wonder if this is even taking place.

jlew24asu

cutback wrote:

I agree with what you're saying. But this administration has shown me nothing that they truly want to dismantle Al Queda or eliminate Osama.

nothing? how about all the top leaders in Guantanamo? or the elimination of training camps in afgahistan? or the capture of other memebers throughout the world?

but you see nothing?

cutback wrote:

The only positive thought I have and what keeps the flicker of hope alive is that hopefully Osama is being hunted by the CIA. Hopefully there is a covert effort to catch him.

wouldnt the administration have something to do with this?

cutback wrote:

But with the focus still on Iraq I wonder if this is even taking place.

I agree Iraq was and is a big distraction in catching osama

miller8966

cutback wrote:

I agree with what you're saying. But this administration has shown me nothing that they truly want to dismantle Al Queda or eliminate Osama. The only positive thought I have and what keeps the flicker of hope alive is that hopefully Osama is being hunted by the CIA. Hopefully there is a covert effort to catch him. But with the focus still on Iraq I wonder if this is even taking place.

The bsuh admin has put into practice plenty of measures to help catch terrorists like the patriot act. And lets not foget that it has captured and "beautifully" killed a good number of al qaeda operatives.

callen

angelica wrote:

Totally one-sided. I don't trust anyone, period. I trust what my intuition tells me. And when I don't know, I say I don't know. I cannot afford to be wrong, and to support killing based on fear and false realities.

need to be even more critical with inputs.....just try to get info from first hand knowledge and foreign sources...but even then. Damnit....I dont' know shieze...thanks a freakin lot.

my2hands

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."
--George W. Bush commenting to Texas evangelist James Robinson in the run-up to his presidential campaign



"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam [Hussein], which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
--Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Abu Mazen quoting Bush when they met in Aqaba; reported in The Haaretz Reporter by Arnon Regular

norm

jlew24asu wrote:

I agree Iraq was and is a big distraction in catching osama

This is really my only point. If he had just focused on getting the bastard instead of showing daddy he's big boy he could have gone down as one of the greatest leaders in history. Ah well too late now.

my2hands

did you know that the grand canyon was created by the floods of Noah? well, your government is sticking with that bullshit, and actually selling it at the grand canyon national park gift shop. they also will not allow anyone to actually say how old the grand canyon is because of pressure from Bush administration apointee's.

what a fucking joke, the real funny part is some people actually suck this shit up.

http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/don/46043

12-28-06

According to Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) in a report released this week [PDF], Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to pressure from Bush administration appointees.

Furthermore, a book approved by the Service claiming the Grand Canyon was created by Noah's flood ,rather than by geologic forces, is on sale in the park for more than three years, even though a review was promised to Congress and the press. A Freedom of Information request [PDF] reveals that no review has ever been requested, nor taken place.

"In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology," stated PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch. "It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is 'no comment.'" PEER urged [PDF] the new Director of the National Park Service (NPS), Mary Bomar, to end the stalling tactics, remove the book from sale at the park and allow park interpretive rangers to honestly answer questions from the public about the geologic age of the Grand Canyon.

my2hands

I had to leave the house of god
Because the cross replaced the wheel

~a. difranco~

NCfan

angelica wrote:

Throw out all your preconceptions about me, NCfan. I'll be back wayy later to respond to these posts directed to me.

Preconceptions that you are intelegent enough to see through ALL the propaganda no matter who it supports or helps, and understand that Osama Bin Laden wants infidels who will not submit to his interpretation of Islam to die?
I mean he's said it over and over and over... it's no secret.

Okay, I'll throw that out...

It doesn't bother me to question things. But it is disturbing that somebody couldn't judge Osama Bin Laden based on his own words and/or deeds.

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

the taliban? yes they were. do you believe otherwise?

The thing is, Bin Laden is now in Pakistan. Does this mean that the Pakistani's are 'protecting' or 'harbouring' him? Should America be carpet bombing Pakistan now?
I think that the correct course of action would have been to have courted the Talebans favour in 2002 and perhaps sent in some special forces to assist them. The Taleban know that land better than Bin Laden and the other Saudi's who were living up in those mountains. They could have flushed him out quicker than anyone. All i'm saying here is that i think there was more to Bush's eagerness to remove the Taleban than Bin Laden.
Oil pipelines perhaps?

spiral out

jlew24asu wrote:

maybe a few planes flying into our buildings

Ah yes but friend, there is no evediance either way so get over it.

spiral out

jlew24asu wrote:

maybe a few planes flying into our buildings

Ah yes but friend, there is no evidnece either way so get over it.

jlew24asu

spiral out wrote:

Ah yes but friend, there is no evediance either way so get over it.

there is no evidence of what?

spiral out

callen wrote:

those are the two major decisions he's made....and as much as I hate war...we did need to take out the Taliban.

And how exactly is this war taking out the taliban?

miller8966

Byrnzie wrote:

The thing is, Bin Laden is now in Pakistan. Does this mean that the Pakistani's are 'protecting' or 'harbouring' him? Should America be carpet bombing Pakistan now?
I think that the correct course of action would have been to have courted the Talebans favour in 2002 and perhaps sent in some special forces to assist them. The Taleban know that land better than Bin Laden and the other Saudi's who were living up in those mountains. They could have flushed him out quicker than anyone. All i'm saying here is that i think there was more to Bush's eagerness to remove the Taleban than Bin Laden.
Oil pipelines perhaps?

Court the taliban..lol they harbored him.

Byrnzie

NCfan wrote:

So why then would he be "happy" to capitalize on what is percieved by most in the world to be one of his biggest blunders and biggest areas of incompetance????

Because it isn't 'percieved by most in the world to be one of his biggest blunders and biggest areas of incompetence'. Nothing of the sort. And catching and executing Sadaam took the limelight. Because the media have given up on Bin Laden, nobody gives a fuck about him anymore - except perhaps those people who lost family members in the twin towers.

And i'll repeat what i said earlier. American's need an enemy. Bin Laden will always be there in the background, ready to serve that need, and ready to serve the needs of the war mongers and spin doctors.