Fucking Bullshit

my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
if this current Iraq war is so important to our way of lives, and our freedom. If it truly is the greatest fight of good and evil of the 21st century. If this war of for the spread of freedom and democracy. If it truly is a great mission that must be completed and held to the highest honor, then why the fuck havent the president's 2 daughters signed up to serve in the armed forces?

this war is bullshit, and everyone knows it, they just wont fucking admit it.

and if "God" told Bush to invade Iraq, and he feels it is the noblest of causes, then why have his own children NOT signed on the dotted line? because it is all fucking bullshit and they know it. so they would rather send your and my families into the line of fire so that american corporate interests can seize valuable natural resources, while at the same time the militray-industrial-complex can steal our wealth all in the name of "war" and "national defense", and "freedom".

wake up and smell the coffee, they do not care about you, they do not care about "our" country, and they do not care about iraq's "freedom". we are simply a tool they manipulate to execute their plan.

next time you think this war is "noble", "just", or "we got rid of sadaam" please just remember the architects of this war's children are at home on the couch watching CNN while our friends and family members are being shredded by an IED.

*end of rant*
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    my2hands wrote:
    if this current Iraq war is so important to our way of lives, and our freedom. If it truly is the greatest fight of good and evil of the 21st century. If this war of for the spread of freedom and democracy. If it truly is a great mission that must be completed and held to the highest honor, then why the fuck havent the president's 2 daughters signed up to serve in the armed forces?

    this war is bullshit, and everyone knows it, they just wont fucking admit it.

    and if "God" told Bush to invade Iraq, and he feels it is the noblest of causes, then why have his own children NOT signed on the dotted line? because it is all fucking bullshit and they know it. so they would rather send your and my families into the line of fire so that american corporate interests can seize valuable natural resources, while at the same time the militray-industrial-complex can steal our wealth all in the name of "war" and "national defense", and "freedom".

    wake up and smell the coffee, they do not care about you, they do not care about "our" country, and they do not care about iraq's "freedom". we are simply a tool they manipulate to execute their plan.

    next time you think this war is "noble", "just", or "we got rid of sadaam" please just remember the architects of this war's children are at home on the couch watching CNN while our friends and family members are being shredded by an IED.

    *end of rant*

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I keep seeing that word 'democracy'

    Let's see, Hamas was democratically elected and the U.S. is funding Fatas $85 mil.

    Is that the spread of democracy?
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    why do his daughters have to go?

    Their women for christsake! No one asked For Chelsea to go when Clinton went into kosovo or hit targets inside iraq.
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  • Ahnimus wrote:
    I keep seeing that word 'democracy'

    Let's see, Hamas was democratically elected and the U.S. is funding Fatas $85 mil.

    Is that the spread of democracy?

    it's like the question of democracy here...it's the administration of the "democracy" and how officials "get" votes to become leaders of that "democracy."
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    miller8966 wrote:
    why do his daughters have to go?

    Their women for christsake! No one asked For Chelsea to go when Clinton went into kosovo or hit targets inside iraq.

    I did. It would have done her some good. ;)
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    my2hands wrote:
    if this current Iraq war is so important ... then why the fuck havent the president's 2 daughters signed up to serve in the armed forces?
    *end of rant*


    Oh great, just one more babysitting duty our troops would have to perform. Like guarding all the VIP visitors, press and entertainers, who parade back and forth, in and out of Iraq UNHARMED while soldiers continue to try not to get killed. Isn't this enough responsibility?

    Just resolve yourself to the fact that we need soldiers not barhoppers and you'll be ok with the SS having babysitting duties. At least they were kind enough to alert America how easy it is to get fake IDs. More importantly, they wear underwear.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    the have's, have not a fucking clue...
  • My3rdEyeMy3rdEye Posts: 927
    my2hands wrote:
    the have's, have not a fucking clue...

    How can they have what they have if they have no clue?
  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Another walking, talking, cliche. Why don't you go join the other sides army? We won't miss you. ;)
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  • Yes, as symbolism it would be nice if they went.... however, realistically nothing but trouble could come out of it.

    One, like mentioned above, they would have to have a full detail protecting them. Could you imagine the implications if one of them was kidnapped? Any father would do whatever they could to get their daughter back safely, our whole country would be held ransom.
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    my2hands wrote:
    and if "God" told Bush to invade Iraq,
    *end of rant*

    That line there, just says the great old US of A is run by a lunatic.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    pretty stupid thread
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    spiral out wrote:
    That line there, just says the great old US of A is run by a lunatic.
    A lunatic who bases all of his decisions as to how to run our country by what God advises him to do. Forget logic!
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Jeanwah wrote:
    A lunatic who bases all of his decisions as to how to run our country by what God advises him to do. Forget logic!

    Yes because he never consults with his cabinet at all!
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    maybe its just me, but I dont ever recall bush invading any country because god told him to
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe its just me, but I dont ever recall bush invading any country because god told him to

    Of course as you have selective memory. Or maybe just brain washed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml
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  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    spiral out wrote:
    Of course as you have selective memory. Or maybe just brain washed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

    :rolleyes: see, now that's why I don't hold with religion full stop....
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    spiral out wrote:
    Of course as you have selective memory. Or maybe just brain washed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

    THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually), and i think bush was just trying to relate to them.
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  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    miller8966 wrote:
    THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually), and i think bush was just trying to relate to them.

    I'll say it again... religion = persecution = war... we don't need this shit...
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    miller8966 wrote:
    THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually), and i think bush was just trying to relate to them.


    Or rather it put's him on a par with them. Personally i feel he's worse.
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  • Last I checked, it's still a volunteer military. Bush has not forced anyone's son or daughter into harms way. They all signed on the dotted line, whether it be in peace time or not, they knew the magnitude of their commitment.

    I'm not attempting to suggest that a President should use the military with anything less than the highest precautions, but to suggest that he should just ship his daughters to the Middle East is kinda silly. They would have to volunteer, it would have to be their decision, just like everyone else who is over there.

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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    spiral out wrote:
    Or rather it put's him on a par with them. Personally i feel he's worse.

    palestinians are much worse
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  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    miller8966 wrote:
    palestinians are much worse

    subjective, balanced opinion as always... :rolleyes:
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    UKDave wrote:
    subjective, balanced opinion as always... :rolleyes:

    just like yours
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    Of course as you have selective memory. Or maybe just brain washed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml


    i'm just brainwashed.

    Bush was speaking to Palestinian ministers. It's not like this was in the state of the union address. if it was i'd be concerned.

    ........................

    "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"


    Iraq was a fuck up, I get it. but is this statement crazy? I'm glad God told him to do this. hopefully it will happen.
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    miller8966 wrote:
    just like yours

    :D yeah right...

    I do actually try and see both sides... there is another side you know... :rolleyes:

    edit: Greatest in what respect?
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    miller8966 wrote:
    THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually)

    You speak as though you are an expert on the subject. Remind me to come to you if i ever decide to write a dissertation on the Middle East.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    i'm just brainwashed.

    Bush was speaking to Palestinian ministers. It's not like this was in the state of the union address. if it was i'd be concerned.

    ........................

    "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"


    Iraq was a fuck up, I get it. but is this statement crazy? I'm glad God told him to do this. hopefully it will happen.

    The state of the union address? You mean that annual address where he once spoke of 'The Axis of Evil'? :confused:
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The state of the union address? You mean that annual address where he once spoke of 'The Axis of Evil'? :confused:
    yea thats the one. even then he didnt say "god" told him to go after the axis of evil
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    yea thats the one. even then he didnt say "god" told him to go after the axis of evil

    well, when you "pray for guidance" your actions are attributed to the guidance "received." so, whether he said "god told me to..." exactly or not...i can imply from a collection of statements that he believes, or wants us to believe, that his guidance towards this situation came/comes from "God."
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