Fucking Bullshit

Bu$chlager

Last I checked, it's still a volunteer military. Bush has not forced anyone's son or daughter into harms way. They all signed on the dotted line, whether it be in peace time or not, they knew the magnitude of their commitment.

I'm not attempting to suggest that a President should use the military with anything less than the highest precautions, but to suggest that he should just ship his daughters to the Middle East is kinda silly. They would have to volunteer, it would have to be their decision, just like everyone else who is over there.

- Dan

miller8966

spiral out wrote:

Or rather it put's him on a par with them. Personally i feel he's worse.

palestinians are much worse

UKDave

miller8966 wrote:

palestinians are much worse

subjective, balanced opinion as always... :rolleyes:

miller8966

UKDave wrote:

subjective, balanced opinion as always... :rolleyes:

just like yours

jlew24asu

spiral out wrote:

Of course as you have selective memory. Or maybe just brain washed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

i'm just brainwashed.

Bush was speaking to Palestinian ministers. It's not like this was in the state of the union address. if it was i'd be concerned.

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"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"


Iraq was a fuck up, I get it. but is this statement crazy? I'm glad God told him to do this. hopefully it will happen.

UKDave

miller8966 wrote:

just like yours

yeah right...

I do actually try and see both sides... there is another side you know... :rolleyes:

edit: Greatest in what respect?

Byrnzie

miller8966 wrote:

THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually)

You speak as though you are an expert on the subject. Remind me to come to you if i ever decide to write a dissertation on the Middle East.

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

i'm just brainwashed.

Bush was speaking to Palestinian ministers. It's not like this was in the state of the union address. if it was i'd be concerned.

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"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"


Iraq was a fuck up, I get it. but is this statement crazy? I'm glad God told him to do this. hopefully it will happen.

The state of the union address? You mean that annual address where he once spoke of 'The Axis of Evil'?

jlew24asu

Byrnzie wrote:

The state of the union address? You mean that annual address where he once spoke of 'The Axis of Evil'?

yea thats the one. even then he didnt say "god" told him to go after the axis of evil

trappedinmyradio

jlew24asu wrote:

yea thats the one. even then he didnt say "god" told him to go after the axis of evil

well, when you "pray for guidance" your actions are attributed to the guidance "received." so, whether he said "god told me to..." exactly or not...i can imply from a collection of statements that he believes, or wants us to believe, that his guidance towards this situation came/comes from "God."

jlew24asu

trappedinmyradio wrote:

well, when you "pray for guidance" your actions are attributed to the guidance "received." so, whether he said "god told me to..." exactly or not...i can imply from a collection of statements that he believes, or wants us to believe, that his guidance towards this situation came/comes from "God."

eh, ok. but he still invaded afgahistan and Iraq because he believed they were a thread to america's national security.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

yea thats the one. even then he didnt say "god" told him to go after the axis of evil

reporter asked George if he asked his father for advise..and he said he goes to a higher power....or something like that...its on record somewhere...also I watched a 60minutes type show where George mentioned how he got inspiration from a painting of a cowboy on a hourse in his office and related it to god.

UKDave

jlew24asu wrote:

eh, ok. but he still invaded afgahistan and Iraq because he believed they were a thread to america's national security.

That makes you more comfortable with the decision? :eek:

jlew24asu

UKDave wrote:

That makes you more comfortable with the decision? :eek:

for Afghanistan, yes

for Iraq, no. I do not believe Iraq was a direct threat to America

angelica

When people pray for guidance, from God or their higher self, they are accessing their highest ideals. This is a good thing. Unfortunately, the message we get will only be as clear as the instrument doing the receiving. What may be the best choice that George Bush can receive during times of trouble may be a sad, pathetic choice for someone else.

callen

jlew24asu wrote:

eh, ok. but he still invaded afgahistan and Iraq because he believed they were a thread to america's national security.

agree with you....he did feel they were a threat...no doubt..good point....but some of us (rightly or wrongly) have a real problem with christianity and its beliefs and thus are very frustrated that our commander in Chief uses religion, even in the slightest bit, to influence his decisions...and thats why your getting bombarded on this thread about this. Course as you've pointed out...he does use his staff...and ultimately uses their advise on what he ultimately does. Its just frustrating for us non-believers...

Byrnzie

jlew24asu wrote:

eh, ok. but he still invaded afgahistan and Iraq because he believed they were a thread to america's national security.

Interesting typo there. Except i'd say that Afghanistan and Iraq are not threads to America's national security, but threads to America's arms and oil trades.

Open

miller8966 wrote:

THe palestinians are very religious ( kind of lunatics actually), and i think bush was just trying to relate to them.

Just like you?

UKDave

jlew24asu wrote:

for Afghanistan, yes

for Iraq, no. I do not believe Iraq was a direct threat to America

Just wondered which you more comfortable with? him being an imbecile or being driven by god...

jlew24asu

callen wrote:

agree with you....he did feel they were a threat...no doubt..good point....but some of us (rightly or wrongly) have a real problem with christianity and its beliefs and thus are very frustrated that our commander in Chief uses religion, even in the slightest bit, to influence his decisions...and thats why your getting bombarded on this thread about this. Course as you've pointed out...he does use his staff...and ultimately uses their advise on what he ultimately does. Its just frustrating for us non-believers...

thats fine, but lets face it. America, for the most part, is Christian country. God is very important to, just guessing, 80%-85% of Americans?