Liberal olive branch extended to the right...

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  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    Your heart's in the right place, my2hands, but unfortunately, it's exactly our liberal tendency towards wanting to make nice that gets exploited and shit on.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    Your heart's in the right place, my2hands, but unfortunately, it's exactly our liberal tendency towards wanting to make nice that gets exploited and shit on.


    thanks for the kind words... "blessed are the peace makers"
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Great post. I agree with you on most points, but at the same point, you can't make changes to a problem when half the group doesn't think there's a problem... you know.

    Well, the olive branch lasted until the second post in this thread.

    That's progress, I guess.
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  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    my2hands wrote:
    thanks for the kind words... "blessed are the peace makers"


    I didn't say that I LIKE it that way. Sadly, it's just the reality. Keep plugging away, there, though. Ya never know. Miracles MAY happen.
    Life is the riddle
    Of which we're caught in the middle.
    A couple of lucky ones
    Tangled up in too much love
    ~cowboy junkies
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    I didn't say that I LIKE it that way. Sadly, it's just the reality. Keep plugging away, there, though. Ya never know. Miracles MAY happen.


    and yes, i do believe in miracle, cause i'm one ;)
  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    my2hands wrote:
    thanks for the kind words... "blessed are the peace makers"


    What a load of bullshit..you post a thread about an olive branch and then post another one about blood on our hands. You can keep your olive branch and I'm sure you know where I think you can store it at as well. :D
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Staceb10 wrote:
    What a load of bullshit..you post a thread about an olive branch and then post another one about blood on our hands. You can keep your olive branch and I'm sure you know where I think you can store it at as well. :D


    the bloody hands thread is an attempt by me to help bring the war to life, because i feel it is looked upon as some sort of video game or reality series, and we are ALL reponsible for it... just an attempt to help the righ tgrab that branch while it still exists ;)
  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    Posting about the blood doesn't mean she isn't being genuine. Just honest. Maybe a bit naive, sure, but again, I think her heart's in the right place. Whatever-- there's so much animosity on this board that any progress would be a fucking miracle.
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    Of which we're caught in the middle.
    A couple of lucky ones
    Tangled up in too much love
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    Posting about the blood doesn't mean she isn't being genuine. Just honest. Maybe a bit naive, sure, but again, I think her heart's in the right place. Whatever-- there's so much animosity on this board that any progress would be a fucking miracle.


    progress on the board may be tough, but Bush's 29% approval rating speaks volumes of the progress being made...most people with a brain can now see what is going on...what is amazing is that some still cant!
  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    You're preachin' to the choir, girlfriend. I've made plenty of republican enemies here, using that exact same logic. Some folks just can't accept a change of course, even when their boat's clearly headed for the falls.
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    Of which we're caught in the middle.
    A couple of lucky ones
    Tangled up in too much love
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    Some folks just can't accept a change of course, even when their boat's clearly headed for the falls.

    Thats because they think FEMA or Jesus is gonna come down and turn the water into candy and they'll be able to eat their way out of the trouble.

    But I could be wrong about that one,
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    You're preachin' to the choir, girlfriend. I've made plenty of republican enemies here, using that exact same logic. Some folks just can't accept a change of course, even when their boat's clearly headed for the falls.

    thats right boyfriend... i can see the cracks on the wall...
  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    OOps, sorry. Thought you were from MY tribe. :D
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    Of which we're caught in the middle.
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    Tangled up in too much love
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  • Pastor JeffD
    Pastor JeffD Posts: 15
    As Ive said before, fuck de olive branch.

    I aint interested.

    That doesnt mean I wont share some bread and beer with my looney Bushie Jammers. But Im done "playin nice" when it comes to politics.

    Dems (of which Im not really one, I am a Liberal, thank you very much - a Liberal Utopian if you want exactitude) have run races like pussies since Nixon squashed the 60s. Dukakis, Mondale, Carter2, (gag) Kerry. No thanks. Al Gore (who I adore) and his fake-ass two minute kiss with his wife... we've run under many tents and done so with some out-dated code of ethics.

    Meanwhile, back in reality, the GOoPers run under one-tent (thou shall not speak ill of fellow Republicans) and have hammered away their "message" through shrill and constant bleeting for 40 fuckin years.

    And we'ze been getstin our asses kicked.

    No more.

    The time of neo-Liberalism is here (I hope). The message is (gasp) government, ran well, is a GOOD thing. Government ran very well is a GREAT thing. The environment is AT LEAST as important as the stock market. There is more to foreign policy than heavy-handed spending and even heavier handed imperial blustering.

    No child left behind?

    Fuck no.

    No AMERICAN left behind. No gay, no Mexican, no woman, no poverty-enslaved African-American, no Christian, no Jew. No fucking American worker that wants a decent fuckin wage -- and protections from the Corporate Machine.

    Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Hapiness. The Pursuit of Hapiness. The American Dream for anyone who wants to claim it. ANYONE. And this isnt about handouts, it's not about reckless social spending. But it IS about not letting ANYONE fall through the cracks. It IS about not just assuming that poverty and hopelessness are part of the deal.




    Geezus, where did that come from? Anyway, Im not interested in olive branches.

    The Bushies have bled our treasury. The Bushies have started a needless war that was based on lies. The Bushies have taken shot-after-shot at the Civil Liberties of all Americans. The Bushies are the money changers in the Temple that is the environment. The Bushies have brought about a political culture of cronyism and corruption not seen in the past 100 years.

    And, God willing, it ends in 2006.
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  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Amen from the congregation. Amen.
  • Truthmonger
    Truthmonger Posts: 559
    I agree Paster JeffD, when a certain party has pushed the envelope so far in a certain direction, there is no middle ground any more. There is nothing to be conciliatory about. How do you "bend" on something like Bush's pre-emptive doctrine ? You don't, because it was a farce, as we all know. So fuck that noise.

    And this terminal parting of the ways goes for the international relations as well. When the U.S. (and this current administration) decides its not going abide by trade policies or dispute mechanisms that the U.S. itself devised, then where do you go after that ? As far as I'm concerned the U.S. is a disaster right now.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    What a post to wake up to! PasterJeffD you deserve to have that one stickyed...hallelujah!
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Pastor JeffD wrote:

    And, God willing, it ends in 2006.

    any ideas on how its gonna end?

    The left still doesnt seem willing to go the next step,

    I think we need some serious non violent protests in 06', on every level.
  • eddies grrl
    eddies grrl Posts: 509
    I agree wholeheartedly, to no one's surprise. But the problem is that organizing Democrats is like herding cats. The very nature of the party- and I'll include Liberals and Greens, since they sure as hell don't belong on the other side- is that we're so diverse, we're so tolerant, we're so willing to consider all views, that we have a hard time forming a unified front. But you're absolutely right, we must. The time is long overdue, we can't continue to put up candidates who don't give a clear vision of what America can be, we need to get our shit together and take it back.
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    Of which we're caught in the middle.
    A couple of lucky ones
    Tangled up in too much love
    ~cowboy junkies
  • Staceb10
    Staceb10 Posts: 675
    eddie's grrl wrote:
    I - we're so tolerant, we're so willing to consider all views,

    Are you fucking kidding me?? Practically the last two pages of posts of just this thread are about intolerance of others views.. or should I say republican's views. You (and that's a general "you") aren't tolerant or willing to consider any views that don't agree with yours.


    "most people with a brain can now see what is going on...what is amazing is that some still cant!" --Yes, very "tolerant"

    "Whatever-- there's so much animosity on this board that any progress would be a fucking miracle."

    It's amazing that the ones complaining about animosity on the board are some of the ones that CREATE animosity!!!

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