Are you fucking kidding me?? Practically the last two pages of posts of just this thread is about intolerant of others views.. or should I say republican's views. You (and that's a general "you") aren't tolerant or willing to consider any views that don't agree with yours.
"most people with a brain can now see what is going on...what is amazing is that some still cant!" --Yes, very "tolerant"
"Whatever-- there's so much animosity on this board that any progress would be a fucking miracle."
It's amazing that the ones complaining about animosity on the board are some of the ones that CREATE animosity!!!
Typical conservative reaction to stir up trouble amongst the tolerant folks on here. Jeez !!
Are you fucking kidding me?? Practically the last two pages of posts of just this thread are about intolerance of others views.. or should I say republican's views. You (and that's a general "you") aren't tolerant or willing to consider any views that don't agree with yours.
"most people with a brain can now see what is going on...what is amazing is that some still cant!" --Yes, very "tolerant"
"Whatever-- there's so much animosity on this board that any progress would be a fucking miracle."
It's amazing that the ones complaining about animosity on the board are some of the ones that CREATE animosity!!!
It is difficult to impress on someone's childish view of things without becoming childish in the proccess, and it is this factor in comunication where olive branches are offered in peace to the enemy.
As a far left leaning contributor to this message board, i have noticed that there seems to be an equal number of right leaning voices. Within the threads we seem to get caught into partisan discussion, each side stating their position over and over (myself a guilty party), which most of us already have an understanding of each sides position. The problem with this is that we are getting caught in a cycle of agreeing to disagree. On either side of these discussions there seems to be very intelligent, talented minds. I fell we need to find a common ground and help to affect a positive change in our resepctive communities and the global community. Quite frankly, we are achieving exactly what is desired by the elite that profit from our labor and hardships, we are engaging in endless partisan arguments, achieving little action for the better of humanity. I can confidently state that both sides want to achieve the same goals... peace, equality, living wage, just treatment for all, heal the sick, feed the poor, house the homeless, strong education for all, strong enviroment protection, etc... to leave a better world for our children and the future generations to come. The difference seems to be the application or approach to achieve these common goals. I do not think that even the farthest right leaning soul (on this board) wants war, famine, disease, etc... We are just viewing the world through different colored lenses. let us unite against the people that block this progress, that continue to exploit this planet and the human race for their immense gain. We must realise that we are pawns in a game, and that average folks like me and you are truly losing out. Please, let us use our brains (and hearts) to help one another bring about much needed change. please accept my extension of this olive branch from the left to the right! peace to all
I agree with you that is what everyone wants.. and we have different beliefs about how to get there.
but there is a bigger issue.. the question of what we are willing to work for and what we are willing to sacrifice - and our infinately different priorities.
It is impossible to agree and an awesome and noble task to do the best we can.
The first step - which is virtually unattainable, would be for everyone to be honest. If only we have the courage and desire for that - we'd make great strides.
Man it seems we are still going at eachother it's now 2013 and look at the names that are no longer posting here ...
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Old thread.
Anyway those of us that lean "right" on issues are often labled as kooks and conspiracy theorists, and government is out to get us crowd. There is little tolerance for differing opinions.
On edit: just went back and read a few pages, seems the intolerance existed and was talked about then. Guess not much has changed.
Anyway those of us that lean "right" on issues are often labled as kooks and conspiracy theorists, and government is out to get us crowd. There is little tolerance for differing opinions.
On edit: just went back and read a few pages, seems the intolerance existed and was talked about then. Guess not much has changed.
1) There is indeed little tolerance for differing opinions. Both sides are guilty if it everyday. Is it worse now than ever before? I don't know. Part of me thinks yes, part of me thinks no.
2) Leaning right is in no way the reason people are labelled kooks and conspiracy theorists. There are just as many leaning left that could be described that way.
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Anyway those of us that lean "right" on issues are often labled as kooks and conspiracy theorists, and government is out to get us crowd. There is little tolerance for differing opinions.
On edit: just went back and read a few pages, seems the intolerance existed and was talked about then. Guess not much has changed.
1) There is indeed little tolerance for differing opinions. Both sides are guilty if it everyday. Is it worse now than ever before? I don't know. Part of me thinks yes, part of me thinks no.
2) Leaning right is in no way the reason people are labelled kooks and conspiracy theorists. There are just as many leaning left that could be described that way.
...and are.
Question: If we all felt and thought the same way, who here would continue to post on AMT? Do we really listen to each other? I'm just curious about this- not trying to slight anyone and my question has no hidden agenda. It's just a thought.
My own take on this is that I appreciate opposing views if, for no other reason, they challenge my thinking and often lead me to double checking my information for clarity and accuracy. It's not a bad thing to think critically or be skeptical at times.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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I suggested that the police presence in Boston was overblown and too much to find one person. I was called all of the typical names used by some of the left, most of which were completely false and with many presumptions. Not one of you knows me in real life. None of you know what I do, yet I'm compared to some pretty unsavory people. My response: be a thinker, not a believer, follow the Constitution now and always. The worst thing I've probably said is calling someone's thought dumb. But hey, I guess I'm just an Obama hater is all. Never mind the fact that I voted for him for Senate and I voted for John Kerry over Bush for President. Gotta just hate the black guy and hate the government.
I suggested that the police presence in Boston was overblown and too much to find one person. I was called all of the typical names used by some of the left, most of which were completely false and with many presumptions. Not one of you knows me in real life. None of you know what I do, yet I'm compared to some pretty unsavory people. My response: be a thinker, not a believer, follow the Constitution now and always. The worst thing I've probably said is calling someone's thought dumb. But hey, I guess I'm just an Obama hater is all. Never mind the fact that I voted for him for Senate and I voted for John Kerry over Bush for President. Gotta just hate the black guy and hate the government.
I do think if we all took responsibility for our words, admitted when we were wrong or out of line, then the quality of the discussion would improve. But that doesn't happen because the next issue is always right around the corner with a fresh new battle to fight.
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I suggested that the police presence in Boston was overblown and too much to find one person. I was called all of the typical names used by some of the left, most of which were completely false and with many presumptions. Not one of you knows me in real life. None of you know what I do, yet I'm compared to some pretty unsavory people. My response: be a thinker, not a believer, follow the Constitution now and always. The worst thing I've probably said is calling someone's thought dumb. But hey, I guess I'm just an Obama hater is all. Never mind the fact that I voted for him for Senate and I voted for John Kerry over Bush for President. Gotta just hate the black guy and hate the government.
after Sandy Hook. If you have been labelled a conspiracy theorist do not pretend it is because you may be perceived as being "right leaning".
I created those threads to show that other thoughts are out there, thoughts you aren't being told to believe. It's up to the individual to make a decision for themselves. I have always said the truth is somewhere between the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory. I don't want people to be gullible, I want people to think. Do you honestly believe those initial news reports are ALL false? Some are, some aren't, some they want you to forget.
I created those threads to show that other thoughts are out there, thoughts you aren't being told to believe. It's up to the individual to make a decision for themselves. I have always said the truth is somewhere between the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory. I don't want people to be gullible, I want people to think. Do you honestly believe those initial news reports are ALL false? Some are, some aren't, some they want you to forget.
Asking questions and looking at all sides of an issue is one thing. Automatically assuming anything that does not jive with one's political views is a conspiracy is another. When you play the "facts were created on the ground" card rather than admitting "Hey, maybe I was wrong" as you were about the assault rifle at Sandy Hook, it is no longer about getting at the truth of an issue. It is about disregarding any evidence that contradicts one's worldview.
In the case of Boston, the media was awful on both Monday and Tuesday. Embarrassingly so. But there will always be a difference between reporting being incorrect and reporting being fake.
Again, being labelled a conspiracy theorist has nothing to do with being right or left leaning.
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Initial reports said that handguns were used.
Then the video shows what appears to be a shotgun being cycled.
Then the report comes out, rather quickly, that it was an assault rifle.
Until a video is shown that shows real proof I'll reserve my judgement to what the truth really is.
I don't always press the "I believe" button. Call it what you want.
Then the video shows what appears to be a shotgun being cycled.
Then the report comes out, rather quickly, that it was an assault rifle.
Until a video is shown that shows real proof I'll reserve my judgement to what the truth really is.
I don't always press the "I believe" button. Call it what you want.
A video showing what? Lanza gunning down children? That will never be released and you know it. No proof will be good enough if it is not what you want to hear.
Anyway those of us that lean "right" on issues are often labled as kooks and conspiracy theorists, and government is out to get us crowd. There is little tolerance for differing opinions.
On edit: just went back and read a few pages, seems the intolerance existed and was talked about then. Guess not much has changed.
It's 2013 nothing has changed except the players ..
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Typical conservative reaction to stir up trouble amongst the tolerant folks on here. Jeez !!
Must be all the wine I've had to drink tonight.
LOL ! It's good for your heart (wink) !!!
Hmm.. well I think that's like 2 glasses of red wine and I'm on my 7th glass of white wine but it might be good for something.
It is difficult to impress on someone's childish view of things without becoming childish in the proccess, and it is this factor in comunication where olive branches are offered in peace to the enemy.
-the Book of Jedediah, 13:18.
bump... for everyone
I agree with you that is what everyone wants.. and we have different beliefs about how to get there.
but there is a bigger issue.. the question of what we are willing to work for and what we are willing to sacrifice - and our infinately different priorities.
It is impossible to agree and an awesome and noble task to do the best we can.
The first step - which is virtually unattainable, would be for everyone to be honest. If only we have the courage and desire for that - we'd make great strides.
Anyway those of us that lean "right" on issues are often labled as kooks and conspiracy theorists, and government is out to get us crowd. There is little tolerance for differing opinions.
On edit: just went back and read a few pages, seems the intolerance existed and was talked about then. Guess not much has changed.
1) There is indeed little tolerance for differing opinions. Both sides are guilty if it everyday. Is it worse now than ever before? I don't know. Part of me thinks yes, part of me thinks no.
2) Leaning right is in no way the reason people are labelled kooks and conspiracy theorists. There are just as many leaning left that could be described that way.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
...and are.
Question: If we all felt and thought the same way, who here would continue to post on AMT? Do we really listen to each other? I'm just curious about this- not trying to slight anyone and my question has no hidden agenda. It's just a thought.
My own take on this is that I appreciate opposing views if, for no other reason, they challenge my thinking and often lead me to double checking my information for clarity and accuracy. It's not a bad thing to think critically or be skeptical at times.
You started this thread
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=207268
in a blatant attempt to drum up a conspiracy theory. Much the same way you started this thread
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=201371&hilit=assault+rifle
after Sandy Hook. If you have been labelled a conspiracy theorist do not pretend it is because you may be perceived as being "right leaning".
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I created those threads to show that other thoughts are out there, thoughts you aren't being told to believe. It's up to the individual to make a decision for themselves. I have always said the truth is somewhere between the official government report and the wildest conspiracy theory. I don't want people to be gullible, I want people to think. Do you honestly believe those initial news reports are ALL false? Some are, some aren't, some they want you to forget.
Asking questions and looking at all sides of an issue is one thing. Automatically assuming anything that does not jive with one's political views is a conspiracy is another. When you play the "facts were created on the ground" card rather than admitting "Hey, maybe I was wrong" as you were about the assault rifle at Sandy Hook, it is no longer about getting at the truth of an issue. It is about disregarding any evidence that contradicts one's worldview.
In the case of Boston, the media was awful on both Monday and Tuesday. Embarrassingly so. But there will always be a difference between reporting being incorrect and reporting being fake.
Again, being labelled a conspiracy theorist has nothing to do with being right or left leaning.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Then the video shows what appears to be a shotgun being cycled.
Then the report comes out, rather quickly, that it was an assault rifle.
Until a video is shown that shows real proof I'll reserve my judgement to what the truth really is.
I don't always press the "I believe" button. Call it what you want.
A video showing what? Lanza gunning down children? That will never be released and you know it. No proof will be good enough if it is not what you want to hear.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/0 ... style.html
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
It's 2013 nothing has changed except the players ..