Obama on race and his pastor

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  • brandon10 wrote:
    Nothing. It has everything to do with taking words out of context. I'm not sure how that isn't obvious to you?


    Taken out of context? Even Obama said he disagreed with Wright's remarks...so which is it? Does Obama think Wright's comments were simply taken out of context or does he strongly disagree with them?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    For those of you who agree that context is very important, not just a clip (Which I hope is all of us) here is an excellent article about the now famous Rev. Wright sermon about 9/11.

    http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/21/the-full-story-behind-rev-jeremiah-wrights-911-sermon/

    Abook, I am pretty sure we were talking about this. Funny how you keep bringing Obama into this.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    americans love to tear people down... because we are a society obsessed with negativity

    turn on any news program or open any newspaper if you disagree


    easily distracted people focused on 3 minutes worth of youtube snippets for some guys pastor speaking out against the tragic american race relations and american foreign policy of violence
  • my2hands wrote:
    americans love to tear people down... because we are a society obsessed with negativity

    turn on any news program or open any newspaper if you disagree


    easily distracted people focused on 3 minutes worth of youtube snippets for some guys pastor speaking out against the tragic american race relations and american foreign policy of violence

    I don't even have cable tv.

    Americans just love to tear Bush down...it's never based on any truth.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    I don't even have cable tv.

    Americans just love to tear Bush down...it's never based on any truth.

    So now you are comparing Bush to Obama??? You should start a career writing comedy.
  • brandon10 wrote:
    Abook, I am pretty sure we were talking about this. Funny how you keep bringing Obama into this.


    Because I assume you're saying Wright's remarks regarding race relations were also taken out of context. Am I wrong here? If I am then what is the point of the link when we are discussing the his racial remarks?

    I brought up Obama because he has said Wright was wrong wityh sayng the things he did and not simply 'taken out of context'. Am I wrong here? If not, then do you agree with Obama in saying he disagrees with Wright's remarks?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10 wrote:
    So now you are comparing Bush to Obama??? You should start a career writing comedy.


    No, I'm addressing the write off on this issue as being 'america just wanting to tear someone down'.

    Is it clear now?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Americans just love to tear Bush down...it's never based on any truth.


    what?


    please explain, i dont understand what your saying?
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Because I assume you're saying Wright's remarks regarding race relations were also taken out of context. Am I wrong here? If I am then what is the point of the link when we are discussing the his racial remarks?

    I brought up Obama because he has said Wright was wrong wityh sayng the things he did and not simply 'taken out of context'. Am I wrong here? If not, then do you agree with Obama in saying he disagrees with Wright's remarks?

    I have to go to work so I don't have time for a long response. It's not just the racial issues many Americans have issue with. They also think the pastor is anti-American because other sermons like his 9-11 one were taken out of context as well. I understand you don't watch tv, but if caught a glimpse of what is going on at FOX news you would understand. I'll get to the racial stuff later.
  • my2hands wrote:
    what?


    please explain, i dont understand what your saying?

    My point is that sometimes when america is criticizing something they have good reason.


    And there is reason here to be critical. I don't know what Fox News is doing but the posts here aren't Fox news so I didn't understand your point if you didn't clearly see how my point addressed yours.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10 wrote:
    I have to go to work so I don't have time for a long response. It's not just the racial issues many Americans have issue with. They also think the pastor is anti-American because other sermons like his 9-11 one were taken out of context as well. I understand you don't watch tv, but if caught a glimpse of what is going on at FOX news you would understand. I'll get to the racial stuff later.

    Ah, well I haven't brought up any of that, just the racial remarks and I thought you were making the point that those remarks were also taken out of context. This thread is about the racial remarks.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10 wrote:
    A lot of the things I have heard Wright say I absolutely agree with. And I'm as white male as it gets. He talks of foreign policy blunders being responsible for much of America's problems, he talks of how the poor have been repressed. I can actually see how Obama got some of his anti-war views and his concerns for middle and lower class America. I think Wright's views have helped shape Obama in a good way. Obama was smart enough to pick and choose throughout Wrights sermons to help shape his views to better help society.

    I know some of you here that are critical of Obama agree with a lot of what this pastor has said as well. Your just too afraid to admit it


    i'm sorry to break it to you, Brandon, but now all the Obama supporters think you are a fucking idiot for thiking Obama was anti-war
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
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