Obama on race and his pastor
my2hands
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I just listened live to his speech in Philadelphia addressing race in america and this pastor issue.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hisownwords
WOW... maybe the best speech i have ever heard in my life, no kidding. The guy nailed EVERY SINGLE ISSUE without missing a beat. This was the most open, and powerful, speech a politician may have ever given about race in america. After hearing him today i have no clue why everyone is not supporting this guy
Dont worry, all the news programs will be drooling over it tonight, so you didnt miss it
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hisownwords
WOW... maybe the best speech i have ever heard in my life, no kidding. The guy nailed EVERY SINGLE ISSUE without missing a beat. This was the most open, and powerful, speech a politician may have ever given about race in america. After hearing him today i have no clue why everyone is not supporting this guy
Dont worry, all the news programs will be drooling over it tonight, so you didnt miss it
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Awesome. Thanks for the report. i'm at work so havn't seen or heard it yet. i was bummed when i heard it was at 10:15. I had students at the time so couldn't watch the stream. Will be searching for it very shortly though.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
i'm pretty sure it was this:
"The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. "
I agree, the whole speech was powerful and provocative, and it made me respect him even more than before. He is showing some true grit here, i think. This was not the "safe" speech of a politician who's just trying to get elected. This took balls, and I think it will earn him more votes because of, not in spite of, the courage it required to make it.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Thanks for posting this, I can't wait to see it now.
Unfortunately a large group will still focus on the few clips going around youtube and such. In fact everyone in my office is absolutely sure Obama is done because of this pastor. Oh and his wife hating America, and his being a muslim.
Did I mention a large segment of Americans don't even want to be informed?
"Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
"That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.
In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience – as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.
Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.
Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.
This is where we are right now. It's a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy – particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.
But I have asserted a firm conviction – a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people – that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice if we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
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Well done Barack.
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i couldnt agree more
My only fear is that there were a handful of lines in there, that will be taken out of context and used against him.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
video and transcript...
Yeah. And those are the lines that will be soundbyted on cnn and, even worse, on dumbfux news.
After watching the entire thing i'll say this. Anyone who can listen to this speech in its entirety, pay attention, and still be unconvinced that this man is anything but sincere, is simply unconvinceable and had, unfortunately already made up their mind. Every word was spot on. i echo others here who have said this may be the best political speech i have heard, EVER. This man is amazing.
Please, can we get back to progressing the country instead of letting the powers that be further hold it back by driving a wedge between the people.
I thought it was wrong, and its sadly....going to hurt him in the end.
That is pretty simply stated from one sentence.
You really don't get it? (I mean that as a sincere question:) )
It was all about showing how if you exclude people you don't agree with, you become small and divided.
We ought to be better than that.
If it does hurt him (which I doubt), at least he had the guts to talk about it. Its a whole lot more ballsy than sitting around and bitching about stupid non-issues which distract us all from the real issues.
Honestly, if you are not an Obama supporter, I can appreciate that. But, when was the last time any political candidate risked his entire campaign to address such an issue?
he is a politician people, with about a week to prepare a speech, stating all the things people want/needed to hear, the things he had to say to save him and guess what?....it worked from reading some of these responses
hey kudos to Obama the man sure can warm people over
wow, someone took their cynical pills today.
Let me guess, not a Obama supporter?
God for bid a guy try to extend his hand out to the country, and to the world while the media constantly brings up non-issues whereby forcing a guy to defend himself not because he should but because he has to. If not, the stupid fuckin' public that eats up the media's search for a scandal they can soundbyte over and over...will take something as trivial and stupid as his pastor to heart.
John Kerry's biggest mistake was not standing up for himself in '04 when the Swiftboat shit came out. Had he not been a pussy and stood up for himself he'd probably be in the White House right now.
Good for you Obama!
thats accurate
haha i guess you could say that....
im not an Obama supporter....and no before anyone jumps in im not a Hilary or Mcain supporter..so put that to rest
you mean to tell me that you go to a church for 17 years, your married by this man, you children are baptized by this man and he does nothing but spew racist biggotry and anti-american sentiments and no one is to question Obama's relationship to this man?
he comes out gives a speech ,tell everyone what they want to hear and everything is ok...
this is the media digging something up?
but if it was anyone else sitting at a David Duke rally and they were running for president it would be the end of their career
that's an opinion you agree with.
kerry's platform was vague, very weak and he was too afraid to take a strong stance against the war. that cost him votes
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Because he's running for office folks...
Don't buy into this. Just because Obama is well spoken doesn't mean he's genuine. You guys fell for the same crap with Bill Clinton.
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It isn't trivial. This goes to who Obama is. This isn't someone he accidentally brushed shoulders with. This isn't someone who he simply knew in passing and shared a couple of handshakes with. This was the man who gave him his spiritual foundation. This is a man he admired for 20 years. This is a man who married him and baptized his kids.
I listened to the speech and he sounded great. He did what he does best. But can someone point me to a place in the speech where he explained why he sat through Wright's stuff for 20 years and just now decides that it is divisive?