i pity the godless....

farfromglorified

chiefojibwa wrote:

to me, it makes much more sense to believe in what you see, not some omnipotent santa claus-like character.

I agree. But those two things, what you see and what you don't see, do not necessarily conflict.

i have always thought that the burden of proof should be on those who BELIEVE. i believe in nothing...why should i have to prove that? you PROVE your god, and i will believe.

Tell me, do you believe a God cannot exist? If so, you don't believe in "nothing".

but, the punchline is no one knows for sure. i could be wrong. whatever. i'm prepared to deal with that. if believers are wrong, they will never know.

Now that makes sense.

farfromglorified

danmac wrote:

Show me god.

GOD

danmac

farfromglorified wrote:

Ok. Take evidence from somewhere else. Now prove to me God cannot exist.

Again, the emphasis is upon others to prove something they say to be fact.

You really do strugle keeping things on topic, on track sometimes.

Show me god. Or a photo, video, anything.

If you're accused of murder, do you have to prove you did not do something?
Sure, an alibi helps, but lack of alibi alone has never got anybody convicted for murder.

So. Show me this god.

danmac

farfromglorified wrote:

GOD

Nothing. Exactly!

angelica

chiefojibwa wrote:

to me, it makes much more sense to believe in what you see, not some omnipotent santa claus-like character.

i have always thought that the burden of proof should be on those who BELIEVE. i believe in nothing...why should i have to prove that? you PROVE your god, and i will believe.

but, the punchline is no one knows for sure. i could be wrong. whatever. i'm prepared to deal with that. if believers are wrong, they will never know.

I fully support each person's own personal view.

As far as proof, people only see what they want to see. Including in science. What is the difference between what we've scientifically proven at this point and what we will prove in 500 years? Will a new reality system emerge in 500 years offering us the level of advancement we will achieve at that time? Or is it more likely that human awareness/consciousness will expand to unprecedented degrees that will allow us to understand more of the reality system we already exist in?

Our brain filters will only let in what we are willing to accept. What we are willing to accept is many times a far cry from what is real and what is the truth. We aren't forced to use a mere 5 or 10% of our brains. We choose to use a mere 5-10%!

farfromglorified

danmac wrote:

Again, the emphasis is upon others to prove something they say to be fact.

Agreed! You say it is fact that a God cannot exist. The emphasis is on you.

farfromglorified

danmac wrote:

Nothing. Exactly!

It's not nothing. It's just nothing you can see.

cornnifer

danmac wrote:

cornnifer wrote:

You likened music to the earth, God to Pearl Jam.

You then said those who do not believe in god are ignoring the creator.

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No I didn't. No I didn't, and, uh... no I didn't.

angelica

danmac wrote:

Ok then, show me god. Not love, or thought, but god. Show me it.

If he's there, so powerful, show me him. Or in the least, show me somebody who has.

Love and thought are chemical reactions designed to profligate the survival of the species. Dress it up in as much spiritual mumbo jumbo all you want, but we are a being based upon, consisting of, a mixture of chemicals and elements. No more than eating, sleeping, breeding machines. There is no reason to our existence other than that we exist.

Show me god.

It sounds like you missed the points in my post.

Pearl Jam and toast

Which one of you two is Israel and which one represents the arab nations?

farfromglorified

chiefojibwa wrote:

smacks of hubris.

Agreed.

PaperPlates

danmac wrote:

Speak for yourself. I grasp it just fine.
Empty, scared people need a father figure to believe in, to justify to them the pain in their life is ok. Balanced, reasoned, well adjusted people, don't need to believe in fairy tales.

Either way, I doubt the pearls of mystery and understanding will be threatened by anything your mind has to offer.

There are plenty of balanced, reasoned, well adjusted people who believe in a god. Grasp that.

angelica

farfromglorified wrote:

Agreed! You say it is fact that a God cannot exist. The emphasis is on you.

Very slick, my friend!

danmac

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

Which one of you two is Israel and which one represents the arab nations?

I'm Spartacus!!

Oops, sorry, could offend the religious AND the Jewish supporters on here with that one.

Crucifixion? Oh dear...I'll get my coat.

danmac

farfromglorified wrote:

Agreed! You say it is fact that a God cannot exist. The emphasis is on you.

When? Now your pushing statements upon mem I have never made.

If nobody has evidence of his existence, therefore he does not exist.

All i've asked is for you, or anybody, to show me otherwise.

3 pages in, im still waiting....

Pearl Jam and toast

danmac wrote:

Oops, sorry, could offend the religious AND the Jewish supporters on here with that one.

.

You're a moron.

You two are just arguing back and forth, with no real care for the other's point. It sounds like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. You know neither of you will get anywhere with it because neither can prove any kind of "point".

So let's take 2 sides that will never agree and never be disproven and have a good old fashioned neverending fued.

farfromglorified

danmac wrote:

When? Now your pushing statements upon mem I have never made.

Ok. Do you believe a god cannot exist?

If nobody has evidence of his existence, therefore he does not exist.

So did evolution not exist 1000 years ago?

All i've asked is for you, or anybody, to show me otherwise.

No one can show you a God for exactly the same reason you cannot show someone why a God cannot exist.

newagehippie

dunkman1974 wrote:

i dont believe in any god or religion... but does that mean i cant ask people on here things like "how did Cain, Abel, et al have children" "how did Noah get all those animals into his ark... what about the poor polar bear.. was he left to die... surely Noah didnt go all the way around the world collecting 2 of all species"... i dont believe but i want to know what those 'answers' might be...

I wanna know how Noah kept the salt water species seperated from the fresh water species......;)

danmac

farfromglorified wrote:

Ok. Do you believe a god cannot exist?



So did evolution not exist 1000 years ago?



No one can show you a God for exactly the same reason you cannot show someone why a God cannot exist.

God does not exist. I have neither seen nor heard anything to counteract that statement.

I wasn't here a thousand years ago, ask the Normans.

If something existed, and somebody believed that thing to exist, then they could easily show me.

Pearl Jam and toast

newagehippie wrote:

I wanna know how Noah kept the salt water species seperated from the fresh water species......;)

i wanna know how he got all the bug and bacteria species.