it means when you cast you vote make sure it's a choice you can live with. that you are happy with. it doesn't matter what other people think. if you can make the choice without compromising your principles then all the better. and make an informed decision. thousands of people have no clue what the fuck theyre doing even as theyre handed the ballot papers. they vote only because they have to. or they vote only according to the flyers theyre handed at the front gate, cause they know no better. a disenfranchised constituency works in favour of that party with the best, most effective spin doctors. people believe what theyre told cause they have no frame of reference. that's what i mean by politics turning on you.
What I'd like is someone to help me sort through my numbering system so that I'm not giving any votes to those I DON'T WANT by preferences or deals made. And I gotta say cate, that I reckon that's half the reason that people end up giving a nod to those they DON'T WANT in power. Coz the preferences and deals crap really does do ones head in.
What I'd like is someone to help me sort through my numbering system so that I'm not giving any votes to those I DON'T WANT by preferences or deals made. And I gotta say cate, that I reckon that's half the reason that people end up giving a nod to those they DON'T WANT in power. Coz the preferences and deals crap really does do ones head in.
mos def jeanie, you cant transfer your will to another. there should be no such thing as preferential voting imo. to think that someone else can act on your behalf in the same way you would choose to, is bullshit as far as im concerned. this is my opinion on representative government as well. tis called democracy but it isn't. or if it is then we have to amend our definitions.
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mos def jeanie, you cant transfer your will to another. there should be no such thing as preferential voting imo. to think that someone else can act on your behalf in the same way you would choose to, is bullshit as far as im concerned. this is my opinion on representative government as well. tis called democracy but it isn't. or if it is then we have to amend our definitions.
I hate trying to make sense of it. And I'm sure it's how they're able to scrap in sometimes.
Trying to work it out just does my head in. Should be that you vote with your first preference numbered 1 all the way through to your last preference numbered last AND THAT'S IT! No accidently giving preference to the bloody last person you want to have it coz you don't know what deals have been done.
Hasn't it been lovely and quiet since the media blackout started?
I hate trying to make sense of it. And I'm sure it's how they're able to scrap in sometimes.
Trying to work it out just does my head in. Should be that you vote with your first preference numbered 1 all the way through to your last preference numbered last AND THAT'S IT! No accidently giving preference to the bloody last person you want to have it coz you don't know what deals have been done.
Hasn't it been lovely and quiet since the media blackout started?
i guess if i watched television more and listened to commercial radio i'd have noticed the difference. but i dont, so i haven't. and tonight i plan on being on the phone for oh, i don't know, maybe 7 hours. so i'll totally miss all the blissful quietness of the bullshit free zone.
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i guess if i watched television more and listened to commercial radio i'd have noticed the difference. but i dont, so i haven't. and tonight i plan on being on the phone for oh, i don't know, maybe 7 hours. so i'll totally miss all the blissful quietness of the bullshit free zone. : D
ooh shit! :eek: Which reminds me! I gotta go get a new phone cord! Coz the phone here aint working! SOMEBODY chewed through! :rolleyes:
Well I wouldn't have noticed at all except that I read about it in the paper!
haha! Apparently they have a radio/television media black out from midnight Thursday or something. I asked Mum about it and she says it happens everytime. I'd not have noticed if I hadn't read about it. Because I'm VERY GOOD at playing couch commando and changing channels whenever they pop up!
I can't wait to not vote for johnny tomorrow. I'm excited.
Don't really know why. I'm not convinced that kevin 07 will do any better, but you never know, even a little bit of change is exciting.
If Johnny wins I'm moving to new zealand.
It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!
^that link is to a speech that has been made by ex-PM Malcolm Fraser... to me it sums up what has been dissapointing about this election campaign. One of the best speeches i've heard and i thought it was unlikely coming from him.
Also.
I tend to be undecided about the senate as well, but i would like to see the demo's do well as a minor party again, and then i toss up between greens and ALP. But i dunno if all that matters that much i guess i'm only voting for ALP for power at the end of the day.
^that link is to a speech that has been made by ex-PM Malcolm Fraser... to me it sums up what has been dissapointing about this election campaign. One of the best speeches i've heard and i thought it was unlikely coming from him.
Also.
I tend to be undecided about the senate as well, but i would like to see the demo's do well as a minor party again, and then i toss up between greens and ALP. But i dunno if all that matters that much i guess i'm only voting for ALP for power at the end of the day.
I must say that Malcolm Fraser has been a far better human being in my estimation since he was prime minister. It'll be interesting to see what he does next.
As to the democrats, well they used to have my vote but really they've been very lacklustre in recent years. Why they couldn't all get behind Natasha and stick with her I'll never know.
All I know is that tomorrow I'm even contemplating voting Labor JUST so I can see the arse end of Johnny. But I don't want to count my chickens. Sometimes it feels like we'll NEVER be rid of him.
Coalition staging comeback in the polls
Saturday Nov 24 05:54 AEDT
The federal election is poised to be a cliffhanger, with John Howard making a comeback in the final Newspoll before polling day.
Labor leader Kevin Rudd remains in the lead, but Mr Howard has closed the gap and the race is now a tight contest.
The coalition and Labor are essentially equal on primary votes, according to the Newspoll - taken from Tuesday to Thursday and published in The Weekend Australian on Saturday.
The coalition stands at 43 per cent, its best result in more than a year, with Labor at 44 per cent.
Coalition staging comeback in the polls
Saturday Nov 24 05:54 AEDT
The federal election is poised to be a cliffhanger, with John Howard making a comeback in the final Newspoll before polling day.
Labor leader Kevin Rudd remains in the lead, but Mr Howard has closed the gap and the race is now a tight contest.
The coalition and Labor are essentially equal on primary votes, according to the Newspoll - taken from Tuesday to Thursday and published in The Weekend Australian on Saturday.
The coalition stands at 43 per cent, its best result in more than a year, with Labor at 44 per cent.
Yeah, but it's Newspoll isn't it?
It's all gonna get down to those 22 seats they reckon.
But it looks like I'm gonna have to vote Labor even though I don't want to.
Anyway, I'm resigned to the fact that we'll never bit rid of the stupid old bastard and that even if we are we're gonna be stuck with Peter Costello and Tony Abbott and pissy little Alex Downer FOREVER!!! :(
Yeah, but it's Newspoll isn't it?
It's all gonna get down to those 22 seats they reckon.
But it looks like I'm gonna have to vote Labor even though I don't want to.
Anyway, I'm resigned to the fact that we'll never bit rid of the stupid old bastard and that even if we are we're gonna be stuck with Peter Costello and Tony Abbott and pissy little Alex Downer FOREVER!!! :(
**sigh**
Its good in that the people who were thinking Labor was going to win by a large margin and were hesitating to vote for them or for a party giving their preferences to them will get assured.
It'll be funny to see those three whiners on the opposition crying foul and feeling bad when they think of how they once had the power. It wont be funny if we see them in power once again!
Its good in that the people who were thinking Labor was going to win by a large margin and were hesitating to vote for them or for a party giving their preferences to them will get assured.
It'll be funny to see those three whiners on the opposition crying foul and feeling bad when they think of how they once had the power. It wont be funny if we see them in power once again!
Oh I've never thought they'd win. Truly.
Johnny and co have got more lives than a cat and seeing as how I STILL can't believe he was voted in originally way way way back in the day, I've never been able to get my head around the fact he keeps getting in. But now I'm just resigned to putting up with the little sod. But then I think Kev is pretty much the same shoe different foot anyway.
I guess we're not gonna know till tonight. And if it's close maybe not till tomorrow.
Calling Peter Garrett an Environmental extremist is like saying Little Johnny is a Greenie! :rolleyes:
The way I'm going I won't be voting at all.
You should vote even if you cast in an empty one or one that says "does it really make a difference".. you don't wanna pay $50 for nothing
My fathers electorate is hardcore liberal.. not a chance in hell it will ever go to Labor or anyone else for that matter but I might as well amuse myself.
You should vote even if you cast in an empty one or one that says "does it really make a difference".. you don't wanna pay $50 for nothing
My fathers electorate is hardcore liberal.. not a chance in hell it will ever go to Labor or anyone else for that matter but I might as well amuse myself.
Oh I'm gonna, I can't miss my chance, but the way I'm feeling I could just go to bed now and sleep through the whole thing!
And I'm pretty sure when I wake up tomorrow Anna Burke will still be my local Labor member. :(
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What I'd like is someone to help me sort through my numbering system so that I'm not giving any votes to those I DON'T WANT by preferences or deals made. And I gotta say cate, that I reckon that's half the reason that people end up giving a nod to those they DON'T WANT in power. Coz the preferences and deals crap really does do ones head in.
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mos def jeanie, you cant transfer your will to another. there should be no such thing as preferential voting imo. to think that someone else can act on your behalf in the same way you would choose to, is bullshit as far as im concerned. this is my opinion on representative government as well. tis called democracy but it isn't. or if it is then we have to amend our definitions.
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Trying to work it out just does my head in. Should be that you vote with your first preference numbered 1 all the way through to your last preference numbered last AND THAT'S IT! No accidently giving preference to the bloody last person you want to have it coz you don't know what deals have been done.
Hasn't it been lovely and quiet since the media blackout started?
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i guess if i watched television more and listened to commercial radio i'd have noticed the difference. but i dont, so i haven't. and tonight i plan on being on the phone for oh, i don't know, maybe 7 hours.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
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ooh shit! :eek: Which reminds me! I gotta go get a new phone cord! Coz the phone here aint working! SOMEBODY chewed through! :rolleyes:
Well I wouldn't have noticed at all except that I read about it in the paper!
haha! Apparently they have a radio/television media black out from midnight Thursday or something. I asked Mum about it and she says it happens everytime. I'd not have noticed if I hadn't read about it. Because I'm VERY GOOD at playing couch commando and changing channels whenever they pop up!
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Don't really know why. I'm not convinced that kevin 07 will do any better, but you never know, even a little bit of change is exciting.
If Johnny wins I'm moving to new zealand.
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ha scott. what flight are you on? seems a lot of people have expressed the same intention. me included.
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http://www.safecom.org.au/malcolm-fraser-rights.htm
^that link is to a speech that has been made by ex-PM Malcolm Fraser... to me it sums up what has been dissapointing about this election campaign. One of the best speeches i've heard and i thought it was unlikely coming from him.
Also.
I tend to be undecided about the senate as well, but i would like to see the demo's do well as a minor party again, and then i toss up between greens and ALP. But i dunno if all that matters that much i guess i'm only voting for ALP for power at the end of the day.
Haha and wasn't it Jackie Kelly's husbund photographed distributing them so at the very least the local MP's there knew.
I must say that Malcolm Fraser has been a far better human being in my estimation since he was prime minister. It'll be interesting to see what he does next.
As to the democrats, well they used to have my vote but really they've been very lacklustre in recent years. Why they couldn't all get behind Natasha and stick with her I'll never know.
All I know is that tomorrow I'm even contemplating voting Labor JUST so I can see the arse end of Johnny. But I don't want to count my chickens. Sometimes it feels like we'll NEVER be rid of him.
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Now make sure you get out there and make it count whatever you decide!
Meet you back here later tonight to see just who will be bossing us around for the next few years!
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now imagine Johnny saying it
AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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I think i just scarred you for life!
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/election_article.aspx?id=307178§ionid=6046§ionname=minisiteelection
Coalition staging comeback in the polls
Saturday Nov 24 05:54 AEDT
The federal election is poised to be a cliffhanger, with John Howard making a comeback in the final Newspoll before polling day.
Labor leader Kevin Rudd remains in the lead, but Mr Howard has closed the gap and the race is now a tight contest.
The coalition and Labor are essentially equal on primary votes, according to the Newspoll - taken from Tuesday to Thursday and published in The Weekend Australian on Saturday.
The coalition stands at 43 per cent, its best result in more than a year, with Labor at 44 per cent.
You did!!! :eek:
And shut down the board with your blasphemous talk!
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Yeah, but it's Newspoll isn't it?
It's all gonna get down to those 22 seats they reckon.
But it looks like I'm gonna have to vote Labor even though I don't want to.
Anyway, I'm resigned to the fact that we'll never bit rid of the stupid old bastard and that even if we are we're gonna be stuck with Peter Costello and Tony Abbott and pissy little Alex Downer FOREVER!!! :(
**sigh**
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Its good in that the people who were thinking Labor was going to win by a large margin and were hesitating to vote for them or for a party giving their preferences to them will get assured.
It'll be funny to see those three whiners on the opposition crying foul and feeling bad when they think of how they once had the power. It wont be funny if we see them in power once again!
Those FANATICS, EXTREMISTS and LEARNERS made me do it I swear. Don't vote for them!
Oh I've never thought they'd win. Truly.
Johnny and co have got more lives than a cat and seeing as how I STILL can't believe he was voted in originally way way way back in the day, I've never been able to get my head around the fact he keeps getting in. But now I'm just resigned to putting up with the little sod. But then I think Kev is pretty much the same shoe different foot anyway.
I guess we're not gonna know till tonight. And if it's close maybe not till tomorrow.
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you know...theyre gonna stuff up this country.
VOTE GREEN!!!!!
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Calling Peter Garrett an Environmental extremist is like saying Little Johnny is a Greenie! :rolleyes:
The way I'm going I won't be voting at all.
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You should vote even if you cast in an empty one or one that says "does it really make a difference".. you don't wanna pay $50 for nothing
My fathers electorate is hardcore liberal.. not a chance in hell it will ever go to Labor or anyone else for that matter but I might as well amuse myself.
But they're giving their preferences to Fanatics and Extremists how could you trust them?? :eek:
Is it me or is typing in eek for that face just wrong.
You even painted your face green.. you are one loyal fan!
i'm a fan of the trees, not Man.
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Oh I'm gonna, I can't miss my chance, but the way I'm feeling I could just go to bed now and sleep through the whole thing!
And I'm pretty sure when I wake up tomorrow Anna Burke will still be my local Labor member.
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