Gun rampage in Nebraska shopping mall.

Jeanie

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22879128-2,00.html

AGAIN???? :(

This just takes my breath away and makes me so very sad.

Deadman

I shop there rather frequently actually. It's unfortunate these situations are coming to a school/public places near us all until the end of time.

soulsinging

this is why i dont trust people who live at home with their parents.

bets on how long it takes ols to tell us this would never have happened if there were concealed carry laws and someone coulda just shot him?

Jeanie

Deadman wrote:

I shop there rather frequently actually. It's unfortunate these situations are coming to a school/public places near us all until the end of time.

It's an awful thing. Horrible for you, to have happened somewhere that you go to often, and just terrible for the community.

My heart goes out to all of you. I find this kind of thing so difficult to comprehend.

Jeanie

soulsinging wrote:

this is why i dont trust people who live at home with their parents.

bets on how long it takes ols to tell us this would never have happened if there were concealed carry laws and someone coulda just shot him?

So all people that live at home with their parents are not to be trusted???

Won't be hearing about it from OLS here, in this thread, or today for that matter. And I'm sure he'll be equally distressed at the loss of life.

soulsinging

Jeanie wrote:

So all people that live at home with their parents are not to be trusted???

Won't be hearing about it from OLS here, in this thread, or today for that matter. And I'm sure he'll be equally distressed at the loss of life.

it was a joke.

10 to 1 he uses it as a platform for preaching about the second amendment and gun rights.

Jeanie

soulsinging wrote:

it was a joke.

10 to 1 he uses it as a platform for preaching about the second amendment and gun rights.

Not really the appropriate place for a joke, so I guess I missed it. Sorry.

Or theories on what he will or won't do for that matter.

NoK

It wouldn't be happening so frequently if this whole ideology wasn't getting so much hype and media attention.

He basically wrote something along the lines "I have been a piece of shit all my life and now I'll be famous". Which means if the previous killers weren't made famous by the media this guy wouldn't of had reason to do what he did.

OutOfBreath

NoK wrote:

It wouldn't be happening so frequently if this whole ideology wasn't getting so much hype and media attention.

He basically wrote something along the lines "I have been a piece of shit all my life and now I'll be famous". Which means if the previous killers weren't made famous by the media this guy wouldn't of had reason to do what he did.

That's a part of it that gets underplayed. The problem in the US is that first of all, there are guns all over the place. It doesnt help. Secondly, it has become an established "way to go" to shoot a lot of people including yourself in order to get attention, and revenge at those that have slighted you. Plenty of examples show how it's done, and all the attention it generates. Thirdly, the media goes berserk every fucking time giving them exactly what they wanted, and showing yet other disgruntled teens how it's done.

This interplay of factors I think is what gives the backdrop of why this happens mostly in the US. It seems that kids that would just suicide elsewhere, is hellbent on taking some company with them in the US.

With the internet and all, I think this will spread, unfortunately.

Peace
Dan

dunkman

he did it because he wanted to be famous?... wow


i can actually hear Simon Cowell typing on his keyboard...


Thu 6th Dec... had new idea for show.... American Killer... take retards and give them guns... its brilliant and will make me a kwintillionaire... again

catefrances

my heart goes out to the victims and their families. :(

onelongsong

soulsinging wrote:

this is why i dont trust people who live at home with their parents.

bets on how long it takes ols to tell us this would never have happened if there were concealed carry laws and someone coulda just shot him?

that's the way it used to work in phoenix. i don't know about now. if i had been there i would've shot the guy. i'm sure joe horn would've too. there's still a lot of us that will protect others instead of hiding under a table.

dunkman

onelongsong wrote:

that's the way it used to work in phoenix. i don't know about now. if i had been there i would've shot the guy. i'm sure joe horn would've too. there's still a lot of us that will protect others instead of hiding under a table.

then you might have missed him and shot a kid in the face... then you'd be charged with murder along with the retard.

no doubt you'll tell me you're an excellent shot and wouldnt have missed..

heres an idea... if no-one had a gun in the first place and a guy wanted to go mental in a mall then he'd have a hard time killing 9 people with a stiletto... and even then some blonde american bimbo wifeslut would've killed him for wasting a good Jimmy Choo on someone's brain...

onelongsong

OutOfBreath wrote:

That's a part of it that gets underplayed. The problem in the US is that first of all, there are guns all over the place. It doesnt help. Secondly, it has become an established "way to go" to shoot a lot of people including yourself in order to get attention, and revenge at those that have slighted you. Plenty of examples show how it's done, and all the attention it generates. Thirdly, the media goes berserk every fucking time giving them exactly what they wanted, and showing yet other disgruntled teens how it's done.

This interplay of factors I think is what gives the backdrop of why this happens mostly in the US. It seems that kids that would just suicide elsewhere, is hellbent on taking some company with them in the US.

With the internet and all, I think this will spread, unfortunately.

Peace
Dan

criminals in every country have guns. don't kid yourself. when something becomes illegal; it creates a black market. if the country has illegal drugs; IT HAS GUNS. guns and drug running go together.
the problem with the us is that it won't report when someone uses their gun to save themselves or another. well; except in arizona. we push the point. someone uses a gun in self defence every 34 minutes; somewhere in the us. if the media reported those; it wouldn't glorify the criminal.
yesterday some bloke killed a home invader in phoenix (or suburb) and saved his family. he's now famous. but for the right reasons.

onelongsong

OutOfBreath wrote:

That's a part of it that gets underplayed. The problem in the US is that first of all, there are guns all over the place. It doesnt help. Secondly, it has become an established "way to go" to shoot a lot of people including yourself in order to get attention, and revenge at those that have slighted you. Plenty of examples show how it's done, and all the attention it generates. Thirdly, the media goes berserk every fucking time giving them exactly what they wanted, and showing yet other disgruntled teens how it's done.

This interplay of factors I think is what gives the backdrop of why this happens mostly in the US. It seems that kids that would just suicide elsewhere, is hellbent on taking some company with them in the US.

With the internet and all, I think this will spread, unfortunately.

Peace
Dan

criminals in every country have guns. don't kid yourself. when something becomes illegal; it creates a black market. if the country has illegal drugs; IT HAS GUNS. guns and drug running go together.
the problem with the us is that it won't report when someone uses their gun to save themselves or another. well; except in arizona. we push the point. someone uses a gun in justifiable self defence every 34 minutes; somewhere in the us. if the media reported those; it wouldn't glorify the criminal.
yesterday some bloke killed a home invader in phoenix (or suburb) and saved his family. he's now famous. but for the right reasons.

69charger

dunkman wrote:

heres an idea... if no-one had a gun in the first place and a guy wanted to go mental in a mall then he'd have a hard time killing 9 people with a stiletto...

He'd have an easier time with an IED.

Pipebomb filled with ball bearings wrapped in nails.

Ban pipes! Ban ball bearings! Ban nails!

:rolleyes:

onelongsong

dunkman wrote:

then you might have missed him and shot a kid in the face... then you'd be charged with murder along with the retard.

no doubt you'll tell me you're an excellent shot and wouldnt have missed..

heres an idea... if no-one had a gun in the first place and a guy wanted to go mental in a mall then he'd have a hard time killing 9 people with a stiletto... and even then some blonde american bimbo wifeslut would've killed him for wasting a good Jimmy Choo on someone's brain...

first; why would a kid be standing next to a shooter?
second; i'm always aware of my background and where the bullet will go if i miss.
third; i practice by shooting matchsticks. i shoot rattlesnakes in the head. i've hunted for 37 years and NEVER had to take more than one shot at anything. and i don't have any stories about the one that got away.
forth; most legal gun owners practice and know proper handling procedures.

fifth; in order to take away ALL guns; you'd have to remove the technology from every mind. after my surgery i took a gunsmithing class and held my license for 6 years. i made several working guns from scratch. i also made my own gunpowder. again from scratch. there's 3 easy to obtain ingredients. unless you remove the technology from every mind; you can't get rid of guns.

onelongsong

Jeanie wrote:

Not really the appropriate place for a joke, so I guess I missed it. Sorry.

Or theories on what he will or won't do for that matter.

i think i should be honoured that i'm loved so much; that i'm mentioned so often; even on days i can't be here. i know you love; but SS can't seem to get enough of me. he isn't a jessie is he?

you're right dear; i do feel for the victims and their families. especially so close to the holidays. they'll relive this every christmas for the rest of their lives. but i truely believe i could've saved most; if not all of their lives if i had been there.

LukinFan

A DJ on the radio this morning described the shooter as McLovin from "SuperBad". Has anyone seen a picture of the freak?

OutOfBreath

onelongsong wrote:

criminals in every country have guns. don't kid yourself. when something becomes illegal; it creates a black market. if the country has illegal drugs; IT HAS GUNS. guns and drug running go together.
the problem with the us is that it won't report when someone uses their gun to save themselves or another. well; except in arizona. we push the point. someone uses a gun in self defence every 34 minutes; somewhere in the us. if the media reported those; it wouldn't glorify the criminal.
yesterday some bloke killed a home invader in phoenix (or suburb) and saved his family. he's now famous. but for the right reasons.

My point is that for some reason, you have a lot more guns lying around than any other comparable country. But that wasn't my main point, I said that it doesn't help that everyone and his grandma have them lying around. You have more guns, and you use guns more. Whether legal or not is largely beside the point.

That wasn't my main point however, which is geared more towards the attention these things gets, and the ideas it gives still others.

Other countries have drug dealing too, Norway no exception. But for some reason they dont shoot eachother all the time. We can own guns, but few do (apart form hunters and sports shooters). And "handguns for self-protection" is unheard of. Why America is more violent, that is food for thought and numerous research projects. I dont know exactly. The fact remains though.

Peace
Dan

dunkman

onelongsong wrote:

first; why would a kid be standing next to a shooter?
second; i'm always aware of my background and where the bullet will go if i miss.
third; i practice by shooting matchsticks. i shoot rattlesnakes in the head. i've hunted for 37 years and NEVER had to take more than one shot at anything. and i don't have any stories about the one that got away.
forth; most legal gun owners practice and know proper handling procedures.

fifth; in order to take away ALL guns; you'd have to remove the technology from every mind. after my surgery i took a gunsmithing class and held my license for 6 years. i made several working guns from scratch. i also made my own gunpowder. again from scratch. there's 3 easy to obtain ingredients. unless you remove the technology from every mind; you can't get rid of guns.

sixth... guns are fucking stupid and as long as thick cunts are shooting each other over in your side of the world then i have zero sympathy for anyone... and i mean anyone... if they live in a country with ridiculously high gun crime statistics, so high that more kids are killed than the next 25 richest nations in the world COMBINED....and do fuck all about it then i will not shed one tear.

keep killing each other... no-one actually fucking cares... except Bin Laden and his flock... saves them the bother