How Many Here Have Even Read The Bible?

angelica

hippiemom wrote:

Wouldn't an omnipotent being have known from the start just how it would turn out?

Yes, and the All does know everything. And does not regret. Humans are the ones who perceive regret and then apply that to our "understanding" of All. When we break the All into stories, it is no longer the All, and it naturally loses something in the translation. We fill in the blanks of "lack of understanding" with our human biases and lacks. It's a little concept known as "evil", or living backwards, in order to find the truth.

angelica

hippiemom wrote:

At least we are all in agreement regarding angelica

Thank-you, hippiemom.

I notice you know more about bible stories than I do!

Ms. Haiku

I've read parts, and had parts read to me. I like having it read to me more.

dunkman

redrock wrote:

When is it our turn to be terminated by this all loving god?

well in 4 billion years the sun will expand to take in fuel and thusly will scorch the earth so badly that all, not just human, ALL life will cease to exist on this planet.... after this the Earth will be a desolate wasteland (with molten lava for soil...


so we have 4 billion years to get ourselves onto another solar system.... unless god wants us all to die... if he doesnt then he created the sun very poorly didnt he... he should have used an energy saving light source instead of one of those old fashioned ones!

angelica

The Bible is intended to be a guide on how to live life to our highest spiritual potential. It can/does answer spiritual questions. It is intended to help direct people when they run across problems, by offering stories, metaphors, parables and other symbolic messages that explain what is beyond our physical world understanding. It provides spiritual insight into one's issues.

However, the Bible is not intended to be used in any way as a tool with which to judge others, or to judge the path of others. Jesus was very clear that when we judge the spec in another's eyes, we cannot see correctly because we have a plank in our own eye. What is healthy in the way of sharing the Divine message of God, is sharing one's personal experiences with God. One's personal experiences are truthful to us, and cannot be diminished. By sharing such experience, we can enLighten others. By arguing for our "rightness", we've entered into judgment and must learn the hard way that our bias is not God's truth.

It's quite clear people leave these distinctly defined boundaries all the time. Where do we go wrong? We justify doing what is wrong. When people assume their judgements of the bible to be intended for anyone other than themselves, they slip into error and will find out the hard way. One personal point of view cannot disprove another. But one can prove their own biases, and lack of truthful view.

dunkman

hippiemom wrote:

At least we are all in agreement regarding angelica

yeah me too.... she's such a hottie!!!

angelica

dunkman1974 wrote:

yeah me too.... she's such a hottie!!!

Thank-you. (:o!) (any trouble with those boy-bands, lately??)

eden

hippiemom wrote:

At least we are all in agreement regarding angelica

:(

I know Im no Anjelica, Ive tried to be like that but it just dont stick!

angelica

eden wrote:

:(

I know Im no Anjelica, Ive tried to be like that but it just dont stick!

I'm guessing you're a wonderful and amazing you, exactly and perfectly designed as you were meant to be, in each moment. Unfolding as a flower.

dkst0426

hippiemom wrote:

Again, if he's perfect and all-knowing, he knows much better what's good for you than you do. Why would he bow to your imperfect wishes made in ignorance of all that he knows?

That's not an answer to the question. Your premise assumes that what a person may ask for in their prayer is not God's will to begin with.

dkst0426

eden wrote:

Hello? The first half of the bible was written by Jews, the second half Christians.

Uhm, Christianity's not an ethnicity. I see what you're getting at, but that response is very easily countered.

rigneyclan

eden wrote:

In the first few Chaps. of Genesis it describes the 7 creative "days" which actually spanned thousands and thousands of years, it describes Great wild beasts roaming the Earth...Bible scholars believe that these were the Dinosaurs and that he created them for a purpose (oil, etc.) but obviously killed them off before creating Humans.

Ok, if the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old, then just how much thousands and thousands of years is one day of the creative days?

rigneyclan

dunkman1974 wrote:

well in 4 billion years the sun will expand to take in fuel and thusly will scorch the earth so badly that all, not just human, ALL life will cease to exist on this planet.... after this the Earth will be a desolate wasteland (with molten lava for soil..

Yep.

From Wikipedia: "in 4–5 billion years, the Sun will enter a red giant phase, its outer layers expanding as the hydrogen fuel in the core is consumed and the core contracts and heats up. Helium fusion will begin when the core temperature reaches about 3×108 K. While it is likely that the expansion of the outer layers of the Sun will reach the current position of Earth's orbit, recent research suggests that mass lost from the Sun earlier in its red giant phase will cause the Earth's orbit to move further out, preventing it from being engulfed. However, Earth's water and most of the atmosphere will be boiled away."

cornnifer

dkst0426 wrote:

Uhm, Christianity's not an ethnicity. .

Well, in all due respect, neither is Jewish, really.

eden

angelica wrote:

I'm guessing you're a wonderful and amazing you, exactly and perfectly designed as you were meant to be, in each moment. Unfolding as a flower.

Aw, how stinkin' sweet! wow!

eden

dkst0426 wrote:

Uhm, Christianity's not an ethnicity. I see what you're getting at, but that response is very easily countered.

Who is talking ethnicity? We were talking faith I thought.

eden

rigneyclan wrote:

Ok, if the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old, then just how much thousands and thousands of years is one day of the creative days?

Good question.
All I can say about that with a certainty is that even scientists who dont believe in the Bible are at major odds over the actual age of the Earth.

We do know if you follow Bible chronology that in 1975 it was exactly 6000 years since Adams creation.

dkst0426

cornnifer wrote:

Well, in all due respect, neither is Jewish, really.

As a reference to an ethnic race in today's context, it can be argued that it is.

But yeah.........

eden wrote:

Who is talking ethnicity? We were talking faith I thought.

It appears that I misread you.

eden

dkst0426 wrote:

As a reference to an ethnic race in today's context, it can be argued that it is.

But yeah.........


It appears that I misread you.

You were just trying to get me to reply to you, and see? Your sinister plan worked!

cornnifer

dkst0426 wrote:

As a reference to an ethnic race in today's context, it can be argued that it is.

But yeah.........


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Perhaps, but, i think mistakenly so. i may be wrong, and i mean no disrespect to anyone, but, isn't a Jew simply someone who adheres to Jewish faith? A believer in the teachings of Judaism? My most immediate ancestors are from Ireland, Germany, and God knows where else, but if i adopt a faith in Judaism, am I not Jewish? On the same note, if Jewish is indeed an ethnicity, if a Jew comes to believe, for example, that Jesus was indeed the messiah, does he cease to be Jewish? i've heard the term Messianic Jew used to describe such individuals, but, i just call them Christians. i don't mean to butt in, be argumentative, or derail the discussion. i'm sincerely curious.

Also, i may have missed something, i only skimmed the earlier posts in the thread, but, since Christianity comes directly from the Jewish tradition, and since the NT was written by Jews who became followers of Jesus, can't it be said that BOTH halves of the Bible were written by Jews?