Eddie believes in 911 inside job?

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  • dg1979us wrote:
    Are you kidding me dude? Like I have been debating myself. Last I checked, you were here too. Or was that just my imagination? But whatever, I will bow out at this point. There are some good posters on this board like abook, kabong, etc, that even when I dont agree with them, can have a worthwhile discussion. Remind me to cross you off that list. Debating with the use of constant insult is not constructive or intelligent. And in your diary you can write about getting your ass handed to you on the moving train because you are either too prideful or insecure to admit you are wrong on occasion.


    Oh for f--- sakes....

    dude...you're pressing me over a fucking word like no other.

    Honestly. WTF ???!!?
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • strange days indeed...

    no really?

    yes really..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Oh for f--- sakes....

    dude...you're pressing me over a fucking word like no other.

    Honestly. WTF is your problem?

    Wait. SO you can dish out insults telling me I need to learn English and 123..ABC and stuff like that, but I point out you used a word wrong, and I have a problem? Give me a break. Maybe if you could have a discussion without the stupid insults, I wouldnt feel the need to press you so hard. You reap what you sow hot shot. Next time we have a discussion, be civil, thats all I ask. But if you are going to insult me and my intelligence, then you are damn straight Im going to hand your ass to ya in our discussion. Good day genius.
  • Atomize.....

    It's just a word....

    so they say...
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  • dg1979us wrote:
    Wait. SO you can dish out insults telling me I need to learn English and 123..ABC and stuff like that, but I point out you used a word wrong, and I have a problem? Give me a break. Maybe if you could have a discussion without the stupid insults, I wouldnt feel the need to press you so hard. You reap what you sow hot shot. Next time we have a discussion, be civil, thats all I ask. But if you are going to insult me and my intelligence, then you are damn straight Im going to hand your ass to ya in our discussion. Good day genius.


    Your entire argument revolves around the word atomize...and you're full on crazy about it now/....


    get help please.

    edit: not a lot of help...but some :D
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  • Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • Are Keith's headphones duct taped to his head?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • and

    I

    also

    specified

    how

    Atomized

    could

    apply under

    certain levels of understanding

    Oddly...

    to no avail...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    So who won't let it go? Seriously, the dude called you out due to dick remarks like below....really need to chill..
    Atomize: To reduce to fine particles or spray.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=atomized&x=0&y=0

    (no charge for the vocabulary lesson)
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    I didn't ask you to blather, I asked you if you knew about the EPA's findings of iron precipitate in the WTC debris. It was also collected from the balcony of a nearby apartment building.

    In that sense, yes atomize/atomise is most definitely correct. Big picture...you know how it goes eh?

    thank you and good morning.

    mind the door on this one.

    Iron precipitate..hmmmm...let me take a shot at this.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_thermate_at_the_wtc.html

    But please ignore these facts and common sense observations as you always do. While I'm at it here is another one for you to ignore.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/pulverised_concrete.html
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  • It's only a word, and yes it most certainly applies well enough to commensurate a common understanding.

    I made my case. Sorry to see it already was a pre-biased argument against "truthers" in disguise.

    paper thin concealment to my eyes...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Iron precipitate..hmmmm...let me take a shot at this.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/traces_of_thermate_at_the_wtc.html

    But please ignore these facts and common sense observations as you always do. While I'm at it here is another one for you to ignore.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/pulverised_concrete.html

    The precipitate data (first link) was also confirmed by the EPA. google EPA if you haven't already. Environmental; Protection Agency.

    The second link. What about the steel columns?

    just negate them away....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • angryyoungmanangryyoungman Medford, NY Posts: 1,028
    g under p wrote:
    I find this 9/11 Inside Job question so fascinating in that it gathers so many varying points of views. I moderate another music site and this same question was posed there and it brought out the similiar reponses.

    One of my first posts around this time last year was *9/11 Mysteries* left for work and 9 hours later they were 7 or 8 pages of reponses. I couldn't believe it and I went through and read each and responded to as many as I could.

    Here's some from StayHuman.org ......Was 9/11 An Inside Job?

    Peace
    conspiracy theories are always alot more interesting than the truth. . .some folks get off on this stuff. . .these folks like it when people see things and then to tell them they didn't see what they thought they saw. . .modern day houdinis
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    finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Roland, don't you live in Canada or something? Why are you so concerned/obsessed with 9/11? So what if it was an inside job, what are you going to do about it, aside from typing on your computer and posting links? And I'm not trying to be a dick, just curious as to what you are doing about the situation..

    Perhaps consider putting all this energy toward your family and/or local community where you can actually make a difference..Don't know if you've been to the city or to ground zero, but if you are ever in town, i'd be more than happy to show you around and introduce you to officers/firefighters who you can speak with, being that you are so interested in all this stuff.

    Of course we all have a certain amount of skepticism..but at some point you have to live your life or you'll go crazy..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Newsflash: Only Americans can care about 9/11.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The Champ wrote:
    Roland, don't you live in Canada or something? Why are you so concerned/obsessed with 9/11? So what if it was an inside job, what are you going to do about it, aside from typing on your computer and posting links? And I'm not trying to be a dick, just curious as to what you are doing about the situation..

    Perhaps consider putting all this energy toward your family and/or local community where you can actually make a difference..Don't know if you've been to the city or to ground zero, but if you are ever in town, i'd be more than happy to show you around and introduce you to officers/firefighters who you can speak with, being that you are so interested in all this stuff.

    Of course we all have a certain amount of skepticism..but at some point you have to live your life or you'll go crazy..
    9/11 affected the whole world.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Nevermind wrote:
    9/11 affected the whole world.

    No shit, but the majority don't have this unhealthy infatuation with it....Stop whining about it, and do something about it..or just do something..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    The precipitate data (first link) was also confirmed by the EPA. google EPA if you haven't already. Environmental; Protection Agency.

    The second link. What about the steel columns?

    just negate them away....

    I didn't say precipitate data wasn't confirmed smart ass. The link explains why it could have been found. Try reading the shit before responding.

    And what do you mean what about the steel columns?? There were steel columns, some were rather large and were cut into smaller sections to be handled and.......get ready for this one......a lot of the steel columns buckled and broke! Holy shit, imagine that! During a enormous building collapse steel can break.
    Google common sense if you haven't already. Common Sense
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    The Champ wrote:
    No shit, but the majority don't have this unhealthy infatuation with it....Stop whining about it, and do something about it..or just do something..
    what are you suggesting? you want Roland to hire an attorney and take the US government to court?

    Just because people here discuss it doesn't mean they're "infatuated" with it.
  • chipboychipboy Posts: 137
    I don't have any specific conspiracy theory that I believe to be true. I do however have loads of skepticism about the government's version of the truth. They have lost my trust with WMD's, mission accomplished, etc so that now I don't believe anything they say is true without proof and with the 9/11 investigation they are leaving lots of unaswered questions.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    chipboy wrote:
    I don't have any specific conspiracy theory that I believe to be true. I do however have loads of skepticism about the government's version of the truth. They have lost my trust with WMD's, mission accomplished, etc so that now I don't believe anything they say is true without proof and with the 9/11 investigation they are leaving lots of unaswered questions.

    And I think the majority feel exactly the same way..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    _outlaw wrote:
    what are you suggesting? you want Roland to hire an attorney and take the US government to court?

    Just because people here discuss it doesn't mean they're "infatuated" with it.

    I certainly hope he is doing something positive with the countless hours spent and information gathered regarding the topic..don't you? What's the point otherwise? To engage in internet arguments?
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The Champ wrote:
    No shit, but the majority don't have this unhealthy infatuation with it....Stop whining about it, and do something about it..or just do something..
    Isnt spreading truth doing something? This board is for debate and discussion.
  • GratefulJamGratefulJam Posts: 1,803
    People can argue and say what they like but I think the whole band probably questions everything that has occurred under the Bush administration, including 9-11, the patriot act, the wars in Afganistan and Iraq and the current debate about Iran and their perceived threat towards western interests.

    You only need to read Eddie's lyrics post 9-11 to understand where he is coming from.

    Cropduster:
    "Dad, he's gone up flames,..
    But this ain't no movie
    This ain't no book you can close
    When the big lie hits your eye."

    Bu$hleaguer
    "A confidence man, but why so beleaguered?
    He's not a leader, he's a Texas leaguer
    Swinging for the fence, got lucky with a strike
    Drilling for fear, makes the job simple
    Born on third, thinks he got a triple

    Blackout weaves its way through the cities
    Blackout weaves its way through the cities
    Blackout weaves its way,..."

    Green Disease
    "Tell the captain
    'This boats not safe
    And we're drowning.'
    Turns out
    He's the one making waves"

    I am Mine
    "And the feelings that get left behind
    All the innocents broken with lies
    Significance, between the lines
    (We may need to hide)"

    Worldwide Suicide:
    "Laying claim to the take our soldiers save
    Does not equate, and the truth's already out there"

    and finally
    No More:
    "The lies we were told to get us to go
    Were criminal (?)... let us be straight
    Let's get to the point where our voices get heard"

    Are there 9-11 references in these lyrics? I think so...Does it prove Eddie does not believe the official story? Not conclusively, but I think there is enough there to say he is skeptical of it. Many others, however, would disagree because lyrics are open to interpretation. Then there is "Inside Job", reportedly about Mike's drug battle...Quite a song title in today's climate!

    and finally
    No More:
    "The lies we were told to get us to go
    Were criminal (?)... let us be straight
    Let's get to the point where our voices get heard"

    "BEHIND THE WHITE HOUSE GATES... with his eyes he's saying ....
    "thru extensive negotiations we managed to get the curfew moved back..... we still don't have any time to fu&k around...."

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    and finally
    No More:
    "The lies we were told to get us to go
    Were criminal (?)... let us be straight
    Let's get to the point where our voices get heard"

    "BEHIND THE WHITE HOUSE GATES... with his eyes he's saying ....
    Those definitely have nothing to do with 9/11.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Nevermind wrote:
    Isnt spreading truth doing something?

    What definitive truth do you speak of? Look at this thread, what good has it done? At least now we all know that there are countless ways to interpret the definition of 'atomize' depending on which side of the argument you are on. We all need something to believe in..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The Champ wrote:
    What definitive truth do you speak of? Look at this thread, what good has it done? At least now we all know that there are countless ways to interpret the definition of 'atomize' depending on which side of the argument you are on. We all need something to believe in..
    We'll leave the truth to be interpreted by the individual.This thread may be an exception. I agree.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Nevermind wrote:
    We'll leave the truth to be interpreted by the individual.This thread may be an exception. I agree.

    My feelings exactly, thus the reason I was a bit perplexed as to what you precisely meant by 'spreading the truth.' ;)..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • I didn't say precipitate data wasn't confirmed smart ass. The link explains why it could have been found. Try reading the shit before responding.

    And what do you mean what about the steel columns?? There were steel columns, some were rather large and were cut into smaller sections to be handled and.......get ready for this one......a lot of the steel columns buckled and broke! Holy shit, imagine that! During a enormous building collapse steel can break.
    Google common sense if you haven't already. Common Sense

    at free fall speed uniformly all around th buildign(sss) 1,2,3... they all went down like textbook demolitions.

    no way...

    nope.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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