Jesus. If the fact the guys sells his 'magic water' isn't a big enough alarm bell for you I don't know what is. For a start, his 'experiments' are not well designed. You can't select just one ice crystal from thousands and call it representative of the whole population anymore than you can select one person from a whole town and call them representative. I'd like to see images of at least 100 crystals from each of his samples. Not one that has been selectively photographed because its look fits the mood desired by the 'researchers'.
I can't believe I'm even arguing about this.
Which is exatly why I didn't follow the link at the top of the thread, I could tell it was crap without looking. Oooh, does that make me a clairvoyant ??? Wow, look Mum, I'm a clairvoyant !! I just proved I am !!!
Ah, and yet we almost never take on the aspect of our environment, rather we change our environment to suit us. Those pesky thumbs and brains at work again.
I haven't a clue if this is sarcasm or not... but if what you mean is that a lot of people are lacking significant comprehension on the full picture of all that is to be and exists in this universe than well ...yeah...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Magnets - there is a force around them that is visable when you put two repelling magnets together.
++ = Repel
-- = Repel
+- = Attract
It dosen't matter whether it is small or large. Everything has a magnetic field.
Electron around an atom
Cations and anions in cells (think sodium and potassium in the heart cells)
The body has a magnetic field surrounding it (Physics 8.02 - MIT)
The earth has a magnetosphere that protects it from Solar radiation
As above/So below
If I said to you "Hey Joe. We don't like your shirt, we've all talked about it and decided that it just dosen't look good on you so you shouldn't wear it again. Not trying to make you feel bad at all. Just thought you should know we all think it."
Then I have just done something to hurt your spirit. And you feel it on a physical level. There are many chemical reactions firing off simultaneously in your body, all changing the particular magnetic field that extends out from your body. Some people call it aura. When you get close to someone else, and you get a bad feeling and it causes physical changes in your own body, (butterflies in your stomache, sweat, anxiety...), imo that could be an etheric interaction with someone elses magnetic field.
Non-smokers who live with smokers are more likely to get cancer than smokers. Why is that? I often wondered because in essence, isn't the smoker exposed to just as much secondhand smoke as the non-smoker. Maybe the difference is that the non-smoker is getting the exposure PLUS focusing on the illness and potential loss that they cause it to manifest in themselves.
Laughter increases endorphins, which in turn speed the body's healing process. Science not myth.
Mysticism is more metaphysics based and transcends all religions. Staying centered as the chaos swirls around you. Self control. Controling you own surroundings.
And back to water.
"When you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
When you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle,
When you put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend." Bruce Lee
We choose whether we flow or crash through life all the time. But it is our choice.
I was talking to this doctor the other day at work who was saying that there are theories that an electron circulating around his heart cell could also be 20 feet away from him, and a smaller percentage that it could be at the moon and even a smaller percentage that that same electron could be on pluto. He was throwing out names of theories and formulas that were beyond my comprehension. But my point is that I don't know everything about everything so to discredit something because it hasn't been reproduced YET is ok. Given time we all may find out that he is a quack, or perhaps science will have an answer.
Maybe it was sound? EVERY substance resonates at a particular frequency. And that frequency is directly related to the objects mass. (Remember mythbusters breaking glass with the voice thing).
There is a video out there showing how sand vibrating at certain frequencies start to change shape and form intricate geometric patterns at certain frequencies.
I'm saying just because he (Emoto) hasn't shown the process, dosen't mean there isn't a process.
Keep a healthy amount of skepticism, but always an open mind to thoughts of others.
When I hear something new, I don't immediately like to discredit it until I have done my own research. Frequently I find later down the road an explaination that solves the past "mysteries of life" and it is like Ah ha!
There is always so much to learn before making a judgement on one persons opinion.
Peace
I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
Magnets - there is a force around them that is visable when you put two repelling magnets together.
++ = Repel
-- = Repel
+- = Attract
It dosen't matter whether it is small or large. Everything has a magnetic field.
Electron around an atom
Cations and anions in cells (think sodium and potassium in the heart cells)
The body has a magnetic field surrounding it (Physics 8.02 - MIT)
The earth has a magnetosphere that protects it from Solar radiation
As above/So below
If I said to you "Hey Joe. We don't like your shirt, we've all talked about it and decided that it just dosen't look good on you so you shouldn't wear it again. Not trying to make you feel bad at all. Just thought you should know we all think it."
Then I have just done something to hurt your spirit. And you feel it on a physical level. There are many chemical reactions firing off simultaneously in your body, all changing the particular magnetic field that extends out from your body. Some people call it aura. When you get close to someone else, and you get a bad feeling and it causes physical changes in your own body, (butterflies in your stomache, sweat, anxiety...), imo that could be an etheric interaction with someone elses magnetic field.
Non-smokers who live with smokers are more likely to get cancer than smokers. Why is that? I often wondered because in essence, isn't the smoker exposed to just as much secondhand smoke as the non-smoker. Maybe the difference is that the non-smoker is getting the exposure PLUS focusing on the illness and potential loss that they cause it to manifest in themselves.
Laughter increases endorphins, which in turn speed the body's healing process. Science not myth.
Mysticism is more metaphysics based and transcends all religions. Staying centered as the chaos swirls around you. Self control. Controling you own surroundings.
And back to water.
"When you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
When you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle,
When you put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend." Bruce Lee
We choose whether we flow or crash through life all the time. But it is our choice.
I was talking to this doctor the other day at work who was saying that there are theories that an electron circulating around his heart cell could also be 20 feet away from him, and a smaller percentage that it could be at the moon and even a smaller percentage that that same electron could be on pluto. He was throwing out names of theories and formulas that were beyond my comprehension. But my point is that I don't know everything about everything so to discredit something because it hasn't been reproduced YET is ok. Given time we all may find out that he is a quack, or perhaps science will have an answer.
Maybe it was sound? EVERY substance resonates at a particular frequency. And that frequency is directly related to the objects mass. (Remember mythbusters breaking glass with the voice thing).
There is a video out there showing how sand vibrating at certain frequencies start to change shape and form intricate geometric patterns at certain frequencies.
I'm saying just because he (Emoto) hasn't shown the process, dosen't mean there isn't a process.
Keep a healthy amount of skepticism, but always an open mind to thoughts of others.
When I hear something new, I don't immediately like to discredit it until I have done my own research. Frequently I find later down the road an explaination that solves the past "mysteries of life" and it is like Ah ha!
There is always so much to learn before making a judgement on one persons opinion.
Peace
Awesome! Peace.
And even the naysayers in this thread are merely voicing a "belief" or "faith" in the supposed ludicrousness of this idea, considering you cannot prove a negative.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I'm saying just because he (Emoto) hasn't shown the process, dosen't mean there isn't a process.
Keep a healthy amount of skepticism, but always an open mind to thoughts of others.
When I hear something new, I don't immediately like to discredit it until I have done my own research. Frequently I find later down the road an explaination that solves the past "mysteries of life" and it is like Ah ha!
Actually, I watched the movie and then told my brother how awesome it was. He was skeptical and really didn't believe it. Instead of saying "You don't know anything" and crying about it. I did investigate it. I found out it was complete bullshit.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Actually, I watched the movie and then told my brother how awesome it was. He was skeptical and really didn't believe it. Instead of saying "You don't know anything" and crying about it. I did investigate it. I found out it was complete bullshit.
No one has told you 'you don't know anything'. That would be your stance. We have simply disagreed.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
No one has told you 'you don't know anything'. That would be your stance. We have simply disagreed.
You disagree not because of evidence, but comfort. I've provided the evidence that the experiments were flawed and cannot be recreated.
Therefor you are technically wrong.
But, I don't need magical water to enjoy life.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
You disagree not because of evidence, but comfort. I've provided the evidence that the experiments were flawed and cannot be recreated.
Therefor you are technically wrong.
But, I don't need magical water to enjoy life.
I believe in plenty of things that don't comfort me esp enviromental issues. So there goes that theory.
Believe what you wish but don't go around saying we said 'you don't know anything' but that is complete bullshit. You're the one who time and time again downplays and disrespects others perspectives on here.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You disagree not because of evidence, but comfort. I've provided the evidence that the experiments were flawed and cannot be recreated.
Therefor you are technically wrong.
But, I don't need magical water to enjoy life.
Whoa, there. You can't prove a negative. What you are asserting is your belief that the procedures used were flawed. You aren't able to prove what the dude in question did was actually false/flawed or a scam.
Confusing actual proof with the term "proof" leads to some false premises.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I believe in plenty of things that don't comfort me esp enviromental issues. So there goes that theory.
Believe what you wish but don't go around saying we said 'you don't know anything' but that is complete bullshit. You're the one who time and time again downplays and disrespects others perspectives on here.
You don't have a leg to stand on.
You get defensive because of this.
You are concerned about environmental issues because of the nature of caring about nature. You feel special.
I care about nature too, but I'm not stupid about it. I spent a long time being skeptical of global warming. You probably dived right in and started arguing with skeptics or deniers without knowing a single thing about it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
You are concerned about environmental issues because of the nature of caring about nature. You feel special.
I care about nature too, but I'm not stupid about it. I spent a long time being skeptical of global warming. You probably dived right in and started arguing with skeptics or deniers without knowing a single thing about it.
Yes, Ahnimus, I'm stupid and you have it all figured out. :rolleyes:
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Whoa, there. You can't prove a negative. What you are asserting is your belief that the procedures used were flawed. You aren't able to prove what the dude in question did was actually false/flawed or a scam.
Confusing actual proof with the term "proof" leads to some false premises.
That's complete bullshit Angelica. You can't prove there is no teacup floating around saturn. That the flying spaghetti monster isn't you real dad. The logic you use here is highly flawed. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Your beliefs are the same as religious people. If you use this logic, then you have to believe in every possibility, which I'm sure you do. And ultimately you are just going to be full of ignorance. Because you will ignore the parts of reality that contradict your percepts.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Your beliefs are the same as religious people. If you use this logic, then you have to believe in every possibility, which I'm sure you do. And ultimately you are just going to be full of ignorance. Because you will ignore the parts of reality that contradict your percepts.
Yours are the same as religious people, too. The difference between you and many religious people--but that puts you on an even playing field with the water experiments, is you are trying to pass your beliefs off as proven, when they are not. You are entitled to do so. However, with a little discernment it's easy to spot the flaw. First, you cannot prove a negative. With some humility, we know that for as much as we know, there is sooo much we don't know. Therefore reasonable people must keep an open mind. Go ahead, believe what you want to, however, you cannot pass faith off as proven. And when it's proven, it's no longer faith. "Religious" people are okay with faith, not feeling a need to prove anything. You take issue with that, while disguising your own faith to yourself.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
There's no such thing as magic water....just water remember?... and you do need water...so therefore technically you're wrong...aaaaah
just fucking wid ya....
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Yours are the same as religious people, too. The difference between you and many religious people--but that puts you on an even playing field with the water experiments, is you are trying to pass your beliefs off as proven, when they are not. You are entitled to do so. However, with a little discernment it's easy to spot the flaw. First, you cannot prove a negative. With some humility, we know that for as much as we know, there is sooo much we don't know. Therefore reasonable people must keep an open mind. Go ahead, believe what you want to, however, you cannot pass faith off as proven. And when it's proven, it's no longer faith. "Religious" people are okay with faith, not feeling a need to prove anything. You take issue with that, while disguising your own faith to yourself.
Bullshit Angelica. I'm not trying to prove anything. Dr. Emoto via Abook is trying to prove something. I'm showing the flaws in his methods. Therefor as it stands the water magic bullshit is not proven. That's all that matters. It's not up to me to prove that is in fact wrong. I just prove that he hasn't proved anything. See how that works? The greatest minds in the history of our species have devised these ways of weeding out bullshit and it works. We have them to thank for it. You disgrace humanity by this bullshit logic you try to pull out to defend stupid beliefs. It's fucking dumb.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
There's no such thing as magic water....just water remember?... and you do need water...so therefore technically you're wrong...aaaaah
just fucking wid ya....
I took a shower this morning and I was clean. How fucking amazing water is, it must have loved me that's why it 'hugged' me in the shower and made me clean.
Or.. maybe it was the plumbing system that caused the water to flow out of the showerhead and 'hug' me, and it was the soap that fought the bacteria to make me clean. Maybe water didn't do anything, in-fact all the movement of the water depends on other forces.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Bullshit Angelica. I'm not trying to prove anything. Dr. Emoto via Abook is trying to prove something. I'm showing the flaws in his methods. Therefor as it stands the water magic bullshit is not proven. That's all that matters. It's not up to me to prove that is in fact wrong. I just prove that he hasn't proved anything. See how that works? The greatest minds in the history of our species have devised these ways of weeding out bullshit and it works. We have them to thank for it. You disgrace humanity by this bullshit logic you try to pull out to defend stupid beliefs. It's fucking dumb.
I saw Abook share a belief and a concept. That's very different than trying to scientifically prove it or stating it's been scientifically proven.
You go after people's beliefs with your own. Have at it.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
"Water can flow, or it can crash... Be water my friend."
Not sure, but I think you are choosing to crash. Try flowing... much better. To each his own.
Or if you prefer, "use the force."
Are you feeling hot under the collar trying to prove your point that you are right and someone else is wrong? What cellular changes are you making right now? Maybe your electrons are intermingling. From a metaphysical point of view, it is possible.
To each his own.
I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
I took a shower this morning and I was clean. How fucking amazing water is, it must have loved me that's why it 'hugged' me in the shower and made me clean.
Or.. maybe it was the plumbing system that caused the water to flow out of the showerhead and 'hug' me, and it was the soap that fought the bacteria to make me clean. Maybe water didn't do anything, in-fact all the movement of the water depends on other forces.
Go down to the hot water heater and slap a nice big "hug me" poster on it...see it you feel fresher tomorrow morning....
I'm going to try "tingly balls" and see what happens
.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I saw Abook share a belief and a concept. That's very different than trying to scientifically prove it or stating it's been scientifically proven.
You go after people's beliefs with your own. Have at it.
You are insane.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Go down to the hot water heater and slap a nice big "hug me" poster on it...see it you feel fresher tomorrow morning....
I'm going to try "tingly balls" and see what happens
.
Good idea. I'm going to put a "Fuck Off!" mat on the dirt outside so I never have to clean my apartment again.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Abook, I love ya!! I can just imagine a bunch of dour-faced skeptics in a "controlled" setting trying futiley to repreduce such results, maybe some/many hoping to disprove the original results! Yeah, imagine the "vibes" in that room!
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I think the notion of the experiment supersedes the results. Regardless...the desired result is achieved for some...so it took place technically in some plane of existence.
I someone posts a good vibe...in reality it was just pixels..but it can/did evoke emotion, bonding good feelings etc... so it's more than just pixels in reality.
Depends on the perception and what makes one happy or more connected to another.
that's how I see it.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I saw Abook share a belief and a concept. That's very different than trying to scientifically prove it or stating it's been scientifically proven.
You go after people's beliefs with your own. Have at it.
Correct. I put this out here for anyone interested. I know not everyone will believe or agree and that doesn't matter to me. They can post all day long about how much they disagree, in fact. I really don't have a need to have everyone believe what I choose to believe. If they do, great...I love sharing those connections. I sure as hell won't throw a tantrum when they choose not to see eye to eye, though. All I ask for is respect when we do encounter this differences not hostility.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Abook, I love ya!! I can just imagine a bunch of dour-faced skeptics in a "controlled" setting trying futiley to repreduce such results, maybe some/many hoping to disprove the original results! Yeah, imagine the "vibes" in that room!
:)<3
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Good idea. I'm going to put a "Fuck Off!" mat on the dirt outside so I never have to clean my apartment again.
A "fuck me" tshirt might actually work though...hmm
.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I think the notion of the experiment supersedes the results. Regardless...the desired result is achieved for some...so it took place technically in some plane of existence
I read a few of the skeptics sites before I even posted this and some of them said things very similar to this. So I figured we could at least agree on that point. Boy, was I wrong!
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Correct. I put this out here for anyone interested. I know not everyone will believe or agree and that doesn't matter to me. They can post all day long about how much they disagree, in fact. I really don't have a need to have everyone believe what I choose to believe. If they do, great...I love sharing those connections. I sure as hell won't throw a tantrum when they choose not to see eye to eye, though. All I ask for is respect when we do encounter this differences not hostility.
I think you are insane. That's just my belief.
Sanity; How closely our view of reality matches reality.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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Which is exatly why I didn't follow the link at the top of the thread, I could tell it was crap without looking. Oooh, does that make me a clairvoyant ??? Wow, look Mum, I'm a clairvoyant !! I just proved I am !!!
I haven't a clue if this is sarcasm or not... but if what you mean is that a lot of people are lacking significant comprehension on the full picture of all that is to be and exists in this universe than well ...yeah...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Magnets - there is a force around them that is visable when you put two repelling magnets together.
++ = Repel
-- = Repel
+- = Attract
It dosen't matter whether it is small or large. Everything has a magnetic field.
Electron around an atom
Cations and anions in cells (think sodium and potassium in the heart cells)
The body has a magnetic field surrounding it (Physics 8.02 - MIT)
The earth has a magnetosphere that protects it from Solar radiation
As above/So below
If I said to you "Hey Joe. We don't like your shirt, we've all talked about it and decided that it just dosen't look good on you so you shouldn't wear it again. Not trying to make you feel bad at all. Just thought you should know we all think it."
Then I have just done something to hurt your spirit. And you feel it on a physical level. There are many chemical reactions firing off simultaneously in your body, all changing the particular magnetic field that extends out from your body. Some people call it aura. When you get close to someone else, and you get a bad feeling and it causes physical changes in your own body, (butterflies in your stomache, sweat, anxiety...), imo that could be an etheric interaction with someone elses magnetic field.
Non-smokers who live with smokers are more likely to get cancer than smokers. Why is that? I often wondered because in essence, isn't the smoker exposed to just as much secondhand smoke as the non-smoker. Maybe the difference is that the non-smoker is getting the exposure PLUS focusing on the illness and potential loss that they cause it to manifest in themselves.
Laughter increases endorphins, which in turn speed the body's healing process. Science not myth.
Mysticism is more metaphysics based and transcends all religions. Staying centered as the chaos swirls around you. Self control. Controling you own surroundings.
And back to water.
"When you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup.
When you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle,
When you put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend." Bruce Lee
We choose whether we flow or crash through life all the time. But it is our choice.
I was talking to this doctor the other day at work who was saying that there are theories that an electron circulating around his heart cell could also be 20 feet away from him, and a smaller percentage that it could be at the moon and even a smaller percentage that that same electron could be on pluto. He was throwing out names of theories and formulas that were beyond my comprehension. But my point is that I don't know everything about everything so to discredit something because it hasn't been reproduced YET is ok. Given time we all may find out that he is a quack, or perhaps science will have an answer.
Maybe it was sound? EVERY substance resonates at a particular frequency. And that frequency is directly related to the objects mass. (Remember mythbusters breaking glass with the voice thing).
There is a video out there showing how sand vibrating at certain frequencies start to change shape and form intricate geometric patterns at certain frequencies.
I'm saying just because he (Emoto) hasn't shown the process, dosen't mean there isn't a process.
Keep a healthy amount of skepticism, but always an open mind to thoughts of others.
When I hear something new, I don't immediately like to discredit it until I have done my own research. Frequently I find later down the road an explaination that solves the past "mysteries of life" and it is like Ah ha!
There is always so much to learn before making a judgement on one persons opinion.
Peace
And even the naysayers in this thread are merely voicing a "belief" or "faith" in the supposed ludicrousness of this idea, considering you cannot prove a negative.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Actually, I watched the movie and then told my brother how awesome it was. He was skeptical and really didn't believe it. Instead of saying "You don't know anything" and crying about it. I did investigate it. I found out it was complete bullshit.
No one has told you 'you don't know anything'. That would be your stance. We have simply disagreed.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You disagree not because of evidence, but comfort. I've provided the evidence that the experiments were flawed and cannot be recreated.
Therefor you are technically wrong.
But, I don't need magical water to enjoy life.
I believe in plenty of things that don't comfort me esp enviromental issues. So there goes that theory.
Believe what you wish but don't go around saying we said 'you don't know anything' but that is complete bullshit. You're the one who time and time again downplays and disrespects others perspectives on here.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Confusing actual proof with the term "proof" leads to some false premises.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
You don't have a leg to stand on.
You get defensive because of this.
You are concerned about environmental issues because of the nature of caring about nature. You feel special.
I care about nature too, but I'm not stupid about it. I spent a long time being skeptical of global warming. You probably dived right in and started arguing with skeptics or deniers without knowing a single thing about it.
Two sets of belief are on an even playing field.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Yes, Ahnimus, I'm stupid and you have it all figured out. :rolleyes:
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That's complete bullshit Angelica. You can't prove there is no teacup floating around saturn. That the flying spaghetti monster isn't you real dad. The logic you use here is highly flawed. It's absolutely ridiculous.
It's not the same thing.
Your beliefs are the same as religious people. If you use this logic, then you have to believe in every possibility, which I'm sure you do. And ultimately you are just going to be full of ignorance. Because you will ignore the parts of reality that contradict your percepts.
Yours are the same as religious people, too. The difference between you and many religious people--but that puts you on an even playing field with the water experiments, is you are trying to pass your beliefs off as proven, when they are not. You are entitled to do so. However, with a little discernment it's easy to spot the flaw. First, you cannot prove a negative. With some humility, we know that for as much as we know, there is sooo much we don't know. Therefore reasonable people must keep an open mind. Go ahead, believe what you want to, however, you cannot pass faith off as proven. And when it's proven, it's no longer faith. "Religious" people are okay with faith, not feeling a need to prove anything. You take issue with that, while disguising your own faith to yourself.
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There's no such thing as magic water....just water remember?... and you do need water...so therefore technically you're wrong...aaaaah
just fucking wid ya....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Bullshit Angelica. I'm not trying to prove anything. Dr. Emoto via Abook is trying to prove something. I'm showing the flaws in his methods. Therefor as it stands the water magic bullshit is not proven. That's all that matters. It's not up to me to prove that is in fact wrong. I just prove that he hasn't proved anything. See how that works? The greatest minds in the history of our species have devised these ways of weeding out bullshit and it works. We have them to thank for it. You disgrace humanity by this bullshit logic you try to pull out to defend stupid beliefs. It's fucking dumb.
I took a shower this morning and I was clean. How fucking amazing water is, it must have loved me that's why it 'hugged' me in the shower and made me clean.
Or.. maybe it was the plumbing system that caused the water to flow out of the showerhead and 'hug' me, and it was the soap that fought the bacteria to make me clean. Maybe water didn't do anything, in-fact all the movement of the water depends on other forces.
You go after people's beliefs with your own. Have at it.
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"Water can flow, or it can crash... Be water my friend."
Not sure, but I think you are choosing to crash. Try flowing... much better. To each his own.
Or if you prefer, "use the force."
Are you feeling hot under the collar trying to prove your point that you are right and someone else is wrong? What cellular changes are you making right now? Maybe your electrons are intermingling. From a metaphysical point of view, it is possible.
To each his own.
Go down to the hot water heater and slap a nice big "hug me" poster on it...see it you feel fresher tomorrow morning....
I'm going to try "tingly balls" and see what happens
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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You are insane.
Good idea. I'm going to put a "Fuck Off!" mat on the dirt outside so I never have to clean my apartment again.
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I someone posts a good vibe...in reality it was just pixels..but it can/did evoke emotion, bonding good feelings etc... so it's more than just pixels in reality.
Depends on the perception and what makes one happy or more connected to another.
that's how I see it.
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Correct. I put this out here for anyone interested. I know not everyone will believe or agree and that doesn't matter to me. They can post all day long about how much they disagree, in fact. I really don't have a need to have everyone believe what I choose to believe. If they do, great...I love sharing those connections. I sure as hell won't throw a tantrum when they choose not to see eye to eye, though. All I ask for is respect when we do encounter this differences not hostility.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
A "fuck me" tshirt might actually work though...hmm
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I read a few of the skeptics sites before I even posted this and some of them said things very similar to this. So I figured we could at least agree on that point. Boy, was I wrong!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I think you are insane. That's just my belief.
Sanity; How closely our view of reality matches reality.