Kucinich 08!!!

Abookamongstthemany

CorporateWhore wrote:

Somehow the electoral choices made by people on this forum seem to frequently align with those of Mr. Vedder. Strange, I know. Nonetheless, true.

This time he'll have to align with mine. Although, I'm not expecting that to happen, it would be a nice surprise(I think he'll go 3rd party this time) . We could use the support! If Dennis doesn't get the nod then I might just write him in or consider 3rd party myself but it won't be because of Ed or anyone else.

CorporateWhore

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

This time he'll have to align with mine. Although, I'm not expecting that to happen, it would be a nice surprise(I think he'll go 3rd party this time) . We could use the support! If Dennis doesn't get the nod then I might just write him in or consider 3rd party myself but it won't be because of Ed or anyone else.

Dennis won't, so you will certainly be voting 3rd party. I didn't say the relationship was causal, though it might be. The tendency of many in this forum to vote the way Ed does might be a coincidence. After all - great minds think alike! Ha.......ha....

angelica

CorporateWhore wrote:

Somehow the electoral choices made by people on this forum seem to frequently align with those of Mr. Vedder. Strange, I know. Nonetheless, true.

Did you ever notice how like-minded people do a lot of the same things, and share many of the same interests?

edit: oops, a little late on this one. But seriously corporatewhore, it's about worldviews. Obviously, many of the political types on the board happen to be in a similar mindspace. It's not a coincidence--it's why people gravitate to one another.

Abookamongstthemany

CorporateWhore wrote:

Dennis won't, so you will certainly be voting 3rd party. I didn't say the relationship was causal, though it might be. The tendency of many in this forum to vote the way Ed does might be a coincidence. After all - great minds think alike! Ha.......ha....

Well, I'm keeping the faith. He's an inspiration and I'm proud to stand behind him!

And yes, I think it has more to do with sharing many of the same views more than following Ed's lead.

Abookamongstthemany

http://campaignsandelections.com/nh/releases/index.cfm?ID=902

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Kucinich: New Hampshire Issues are National Issues
CONCORD, N.H., June 2 -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich told delegates to the New Hampshire Democratic Convention Saturday that they should stand with members of their local communities on issues of water rights, communication infrastructure, and the privatization of public sector jobs because "the issues here in New Hampshire are national issues as well."
The Ohio Congressman, running for the Democratic nomination for president, stood before the largest New Hampshire convention crowd in 16 years and urged them to "help New Hampshire help make the World love America again."
Kucinich focused on three local New Hampshire issues that he said reflect environmental and worker's rights concerns around the country.
"I urge you to stand with the people of Barrington to help save their ground water, to stand with the Verizon workers around the state in their efforts to assure quality rural communication service, and to stand with school maintenance workers in Dover who may lose their jobs to privatization."
"As New Hampshire begins its effort to elect the next president of the United States, I urge you to have the courage to believe in peace and act on it, and the strength to act on your courage. Believe that peace is inevitable. It's time to abandon war as an instrument of foreign policy," Kucinich said.
Kucinich also renewed his call for single payer not-for-profit health care, distinguishing himself from other candidates who want to "fix" the health care system by subsidizing private insurance companies. In talking about his concept of Medicare for all replacing the for-profit insurance industry, Kucinich told the convention "it's OK to believe in these things. They will happen."
Kucinich called on delegates to help him rebuild the nation's economy by forging a new environmental initiative in America. Modeled after Franklin Roosevelt's Works Progress Administration, Kucinich's "Works Green Administration" would put people to work building a sustainable and renewable energy economy, retrofitting homes and businesses. And he said he would work to restore American manufacturing jobs by getting the country out of unfair trade deals.
"My first act in office," Kucinich said, "will be to cancel NAFTA and the WTO. We will have the courage to stand for workers' rights, for environmental rights and for the rights of Americans to hold onto their jobs."
Noting that New Hampshire had recently passed civil union legislation, Kucinich said he was ready to help bring the country to the next level, that of true marriage equality.
On the topic of civil rights and civil liberties, Kucinich brought the crowd to its feet when he said "it's time to restore our constitution, it's time to repeal the Patriot Act, and it's time to impeach the Vice President of the United States."
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El_Kabong

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

http://campaignsandelections.com/nh/releases/index.cfm?ID=902

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Chris Collier
NH Media / Communication
Kucinich for President 2008
(603) 536-1884
(603) 254-3722 Cell
Kucinich: New Hampshire Issues are National Issues
CONCORD, N.H., June 2 -- Congressman Dennis Kucinich told delegates to the New Hampshire Democratic Convention Saturday that they should stand with members of their local communities on issues of water rights, communication infrastructure, and the privatization of public sector jobs because "the issues here in New Hampshire are national issues as well."
The Ohio Congressman, running for the Democratic nomination for president, stood before the largest New Hampshire convention crowd in 16 years and urged them to "help New Hampshire help make the World love America again."
Kucinich focused on three local New Hampshire issues that he said reflect environmental and worker's rights concerns around the country.
"I urge you to stand with the people of Barrington to help save their ground water, to stand with the Verizon workers around the state in their efforts to assure quality rural communication service, and to stand with school maintenance workers in Dover who may lose their jobs to privatization."
"As New Hampshire begins its effort to elect the next president of the United States, I urge you to have the courage to believe in peace and act on it, and the strength to act on your courage. Believe that peace is inevitable. It's time to abandon war as an instrument of foreign policy," Kucinich said.
Kucinich also renewed his call for single payer not-for-profit health care, distinguishing himself from other candidates who want to "fix" the health care system by subsidizing private insurance companies. In talking about his concept of Medicare for all replacing the for-profit insurance industry, Kucinich told the convention "it's OK to believe in these things. They will happen."
Kucinich called on delegates to help him rebuild the nation's economy by forging a new environmental initiative in America. Modeled after Franklin Roosevelt's Works Progress Administration, Kucinich's "Works Green Administration" would put people to work building a sustainable and renewable energy economy, retrofitting homes and businesses. And he said he would work to restore American manufacturing jobs by getting the country out of unfair trade deals.
"My first act in office," Kucinich said, "will be to cancel NAFTA and the WTO. We will have the courage to stand for workers' rights, for environmental rights and for the rights of Americans to hold onto their jobs."
Noting that New Hampshire had recently passed civil union legislation, Kucinich said he was ready to help bring the country to the next level, that of true marriage equality.
On the topic of civil rights and civil liberties, Kucinich brought the crowd to its feet when he said "it's time to restore our constitution, it's time to repeal the Patriot Act, and it's time to impeach the Vice President of the United States."
Authorized and paid for by Kucinich for President 2008, Inc.

vote for change, not more of the same...no one else can come close to kucinich

my2hands

El_Kabong wrote:

no one else can come close to kucinich

yep yep


he does have to work on his public speaking though... he lost 97% of americans last night when he started to talk about self and this country trying to find a sense of self. that was WAY over most people head and to average joe made him seem a little "out there"...he needs to stick to the concrete answers he gave the rest of the debate and it would help his cause

angelica

my2hands wrote:

yep yep


he does have to work on his public speaking though... he lost 97% of americans last night when he started to talk about self and this country trying to find a sense of self. that was WAY over most people head and to average joe made him seem a little "out there"...he needs to stick to the concrete answers he gave the rest of the debate and it would help his cause

He's being authentic to his vision. If he starts compromising his values in order to get voted in, he's undermined who he is and exactly what he has going for him, which is real integrity. And I believe this guy gets that 100%.

angelica

If Kucinich becomes President at any point, it'll be the real deal. If the masses are not ready for him and his vision, yet, that is also the real deal.

norm

angelica wrote:

He's being authentic to his vision. If he starts compromising his values in order to get voted in, he's undermined who he is and exactly what he has going for him, which is real integrity. And I believe this guy gets that 100%.

someone should tell that to obama.....:o

gue_barium

my2hands wrote:

yep yep


he does have to work on his public speaking though... he lost 97% of americans last night when he started to talk about self and this country trying to find a sense of self. that was WAY over most people head and to average joe made him seem a little "out there"...he needs to stick to the concrete answers he gave the rest of the debate and it would help his cause

Our job is to fill in the blanks that may have gone over the heads of some...

Abookamongstthemany

angelica wrote:

If Kucinich becomes President at any point, it'll be the real deal. If the masses are not ready for him and his vision, yet, that is also the real deal.

That's true. I sometimes think the public just doesn't deserve him. I do, however, feel we as a whole are moving towards his vision and at a pretty fast speed compared to the pace of this kind of progress in the decades before this one.

angelica

cutback wrote:

someone should tell that to obama.....:o

chopitdown

i've got a question for the kucinich / paul supporters (of who I'm becoming a stronger and stronger fan of). If one of these 2 guys becomes president do you think they will be able to convince the rest of the government to go along with their plans and really make changes?

my2hands

angelica wrote:

He's being authentic to his vision. If he starts compromising his values in order to get voted in, he's undermined who he is and exactly what he has going for him, which is real integrity. And I believe this guy gets that 100%.

it is one thing to be authentic, and it is another to get across a clear point in the presidential debate. in these soundbyte debates you have to be loud and clear. thats all i am saying... i am not suggesting he compromise anything

Abookamongstthemany

cutback wrote:

someone should tell that to obama.....:o

The only thing authentic I've seen about Obama is that he's a well polished, professional, finely tuned politician. He knows all too well about saying what he has to to garner support. It's what he does and he has been excelling at it.

my2hands

chopitdown wrote:

i've got a question for the kucinich / paul supporters (of who I'm becoming a stronger and stronger fan of). If one of these 2 guys becomes president do you think they will be able to convince the rest of the government to go along with their plans and really make changes?

they dont have to convince government, they have to convince us

Abookamongstthemany

chopitdown wrote:

i've got a question for the kucinich / paul supporters (of who I'm becoming a stronger and stronger fan of). If one of these 2 guys becomes president do you think they will be able to convince the rest of the government to go along with their plans and really make changes?

It's worth a shot. People already see so many flaws in our foreign policy and healthcare system...hopefully, there will come a time when people are ready to try some new ideas.

chopitdown

my2hands wrote:

they dont have to convince government, they have to convince us

agreed...but once the gov't is set, can they work together?

chopitdown

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

It's worth a shot. People already see so many flaws in our foreign policy and healthcare system...hopefully, there will come a time when people are ready to try some new ideas.

I agree, i was just wondering if you have someone that is (right now) so different from their party (not necessarily constituents) and the others in congress can they work together? I'd like to think they could and they could be productive.