Kucinich 08!!!

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  • Alive4479
    Alive4479 Posts: 1
    Eddie and many others supported Nader instead of Gore in 2000...

    We all know how that worked out.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Alive4479 wrote:
    Eddie and many others supported Nader instead of Gore in 2000...

    We all know how that worked out.
    How is that? That they voted true to who they were, even though their view is a minority? Isn't that the spirit of voting? That your vote represents who you are, not who you wish to be?

    Oh, yes, there's always the option of voting inauthentically, in an effort to gain inauthentic power. Voting disconnected from the inner voice, in hopes to sway votes. We see how that's working out.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    angelica wrote:
    How is that? That they voted true to who they were, even though their view is a minority? Isn't that the spirit of voting? That your vote represents who you are, not who you wish to be?

    Oh, yes, there's always the option of voting inauthentically, in an effort to gain inauthentic power. Voting disconnected from the inner voice, in hopes to sway votes. We see how that's working out.


    yeah, the last election was the first time i didn't vote 3rd party in a presidential election and i feel bad for it...never again!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    El_Kabong wrote:
    yeah, the last election was the first time i didn't vote 3rd party in a presidential election and i feel bad for it...never again!


    my first election was 1988.....i voted for bush.....i apologize......like hell if i ever vote for a democrat or republican again.....
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    El_Kabong wrote:
    yeah, the last election was the first time i didn't vote 3rd party in a presidential election and i feel bad for it...never again!
    I didn't vote authentically in our last election here. And I've learned from that, too. Deep inside, I know it was fear that caused me to be inauthentic. And I know well enough that fear choices bring a lot of fear consequences. And lo and behold... If I'm fearful of my own truth, or the truth that exists, then I just have to live with that. And the only thing worse than having a crappy reality is to live in fear and to hide from it--the decisions from such a perspective don't get better and come from more integrity. It's the opposite--the decisions that come from fear become more cowardly and create a lack of integrity and it's offshoots (which include supporting others blindly who possess a lack of integrity).

    I consider that I've learned my lesson. And I've been influenced by this thread, too, because talking about this and hearing about yourself and Abook, it's reinforcing what I've learned.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    I haven't voted Republican or Demo since I was 18/19 years old.

    Not about to start now:D
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    yeah, the last election was the first time i didn't vote 3rd party in a presidential election and i feel bad for it...never again!


    would you feel that way if the election had not been stolen and kerry won?
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Dennis Kucinich 2008 Envision The America We Want
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h5RdAkAExU

    We Count! Dennis Kucinich Announces HR6200 - A Bill To Require Paper Ballots Hand Counted for President:
    http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1081546531

    This is the Moment:
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    http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UTF-8&b=2&vid=120807&gid=136718
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    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    would you feel that way if the election had not been stolen and kerry won?


    I know I would. Kerry would been another mistake. We need something new, not more of the same.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I know I would. Kerry would been another mistake. We need something new, not more of the same.


    "Voting 3rd party this year is like trying to revovate your house while the basement is on fire" ~~ EV :D i love that quote


    i agree with both of you by the way, i just wonder if some peoples distraught feelings about voting for kerry would be as strong if he had won and the election wasnt stolen. hindsight is 20/20

    a friend of mine voted nader in 04', alot of people gave him shit, but i supported him on the basis that if you dont vote for bush, he cant win. a vote for mickey mouse was a good vote as far as i am concerned.

    are you a registered democrat? i am so i can participate in the primary. other than that i have no political party affiliation, but i sure as hell would never vote republican. i guess that has been beat into my head from my grandfather down :D
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Dennis Kucinich 2008 Envision The America We Want
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h5RdAkAExU


    great stuff
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    "Voting 3rd party this year is like trying to revovate your house while the basement is on fire" ~~ EV :D i love that quote


    i agree with both of you by the way, i just wonder if some peoples distraught feelings about voting for kerry would be as strong if he had won and the election wasnt stolen. hindsight is 20/20

    a friend of mine voted nader in 04', alot of people gave him shit, but i supported him on the basis that if you dont vote for bush, he cant win. a vote for mickey mouse was a good vote as far as i am concerned.

    are you a registered democrat? i am so i can participate in the primary. other than that i have no political party affiliation, but i sure as hell would never vote republican. i guess that has been beat into my head from my grandfather down :D

    I'm currently registered independent. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I'm currently registered independent. :)

    can you participate in the primary and vote for a dem? i dont think you can in my state? you have to be registered with a party to vote for that parties primary?
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    can you participate in the primary and vote for a dem? i dont think you can in my state? you have to be registered with a party to vote for that parties primary?

    It's not required here, last I checked.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    would you feel that way if the election had not been stolen and kerry won?


    ...realalisticaly...probably...i know i'd be happy that this administration would be out and possibly the war over but wtf did i really think??? that the election would come down to a vote or 2 in SC??? i was a fool, i gave in to the fear about the direction we have been cast down and paniced...it'd stil lbe betraying my principles
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laWWgYYW8dY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3606109954%26MyToken%3D775b4afd%2D675d%2D40b5%2D847
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Who's Eddie shooting for? That's who you should vote for.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Who's Eddie shooting for? That's who you should vote for.

    Actually, who are you voting for? That's who I'll be voting for.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Who's Eddie shooting for? That's who you should vote for.

    Why?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Why?
    Somehow the electoral choices made by people on this forum seem to frequently align with those of Mr. Vedder. Strange, I know. Nonetheless, true.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell

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