Man Made Global Warming

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    i didnt come into this thread with a spreadsheet of data supporting my claims, this is the first thread ive started in a while and i knew that this subject would get a ton of negative feedback because this a predominatly liberal board, and man made global warming is huge in the liberal agenda, i read alot, i stay as informed as all of you do and i try to make a judgement independent of some talking head opinion, you take the facts and then you base your opinion, ive have to deflect criticism from a number of you and im trying my best to reply to all of your responses b/c i believe this is a very serious subject.

    Do you want a bunch of data proving you wrong? I can provide it.
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  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    onelongsong wrote:
    by your posts i'd bet all your reading is comic books.
    i know, b/c my opinion is not the general consensus, damn me for not agreeing b/c its easier to do so
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    i doubt that, teachers unions suck all the money out of that budget and they have no fear of losing there jobs after 10yrs of service, its ludicrous.

    Well that's how much you know. Administrators makes a hell of a lot more than teachers. Custodians can make more than teachers. Keep blaming the teachers union while the real problems mount up.

    Back to the militray budget the UK comes in second, to our +$500 billion a year with a military budget of about $40 billion. The next country down is France with about $30 billion. Then Germany with about $25 billion and Italy with roughly $20 billion and that is it for the double digit spenders. You add them all up together and it is about 1/5 of what we spend. We can cut our militray spending in half and still be the biggest and best equiped military in the world. Putting that $250 billion a year to better use than bombing the wrong country.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Do you want a bunch of data proving you wrong? I can provide it.
    you know, ive seen it, and guess what, we dont know that this trend is man made!! we just have no way of knowing, there are trends, and it looks like we are in one of those trends towards a higher temperature for a number of years, then as has been shown threw the history of the earth, there will be a cooling period, look it up.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Do you want a bunch of data proving you wrong? I can provide it.

    Oh dear. I see a lot of long posts coming up. ;):D
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    no, actually we still have a number of troops over there right now.

    I'm talking about the invasion. We sent what 10,000-15,000 troops to Afghanistan. Instead of sending more so we could secure the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan we out sourced the job the the local militias. What's the use of having the biggest baddest military if your not even going to use it when it counts.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    mammasan wrote:
    Well that's how much you know. Administrators makes a hell of a lot more than teachers. Custodians can make more than teachers. Keep blaming the teachers union while the real problems mount up.

    Back to the militray budget the UK comes in second, to our +$500 billion a year with a military budget of about $40 billion. The next country down is France with about $30 billion. Then Germany with about $25 billion and Italy with roughly $20 billion and that is it for the double digit spenders. You add them all up together and it is about 1/5 of what we spend. We can cut our militray spending in half and still be the biggest and best equiped military in the world. Putting that $250 billion a year to better use than bombing the wrong country.
    how about instead of having a huge budget, we could lower taxes?? i think that would be the best idea, we could even eliminate certain taxes, like the income tax, that would be nice.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    you know, ive seen it, and guess what, we dont know that this trend is man made!! we just have no way of knowing, there are trends, and it looks like we are in one of those trends towards a higher temperature for a number of years, then as has been shown threw the history of the earth, there will be a cooling period, look it up.

    Oh well then lets continue to pollute. Let's bring back leaded gasoline. Let's build more coal burning power plants. I'm gonna change my own oil and pour it down the sewer. Thanks man. Your opinion has solved a lot of inconveniences. WTG! :rolleyes:
  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm talking about the invasion. We sent what 10,000-15,000 troops to Afghanistan. Instead of sending more so we could secure the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan we out sourced the job the the local militias. What's the use of having the biggest baddest military if your not even going to use it when it counts.
    b/c that wouldnt make sense to bring more to afghanistan, that would be a waste of money, what we should do is put some of our military on the mexico border, and secure our OWN border to stop all the illegal aliens destroying our country.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    how about instead of having a huge budget, we could lower taxes?? i think that would be the best idea, we could even eliminate certain taxes, like the income tax, that would be nice.

    I'm all for doing away with the income tax and our entire current tax code. As for lowering taxes, just think of how much we could lower them if we did away with the IRS, US Dept of Education, privitize NASA, and cut our military spending by about $100-$150 billion a year.
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  • binauralonthecape
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    cutback wrote:
    Oh well then lets continue to pollute. Let's bring back leaded gasoline. Let's build more coal burning power plants. I'm gonna change my own oil and pour it down the sewer. Thanks man. Your opinion has solved a lot of inconveniences. WTG! :rolleyes:
    go pollute man, thats what i promote....?
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  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    mammasan wrote:
    I'm all for doing away with the income tax and our entire current tax code. As for lowering taxes, just think of how much we could lower them if we did away with the IRS, US Dept of Education, privitize NASA, and cut our military spending by about $100-$150 billion a year.
    have you looked into the "fair tax" great read, check it out if you havent already, the book is written by neal boortz the fair tax is a straight consumption tax that does away with the irs, its a great idea, but doubtful to pass for a new tax code.
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  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    .....and yes, NASA is a complete waste of taxpayer money
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    b/c that wouldnt make sense to bring more to afghanistan, that would be a waste of money, what we should do is put some of our military on the mexico border, and secure our OWN border to stop all the illegal aliens destroying our country.

    I know all those damn brown people ruining our country. I guess all those soldiers on the Mexican border are going to stop the millions of illegal immigrants who come into this country that aren't from Central/South America. You did know that there are millions of Asians, Africans, Canadians, and Europeans who enter this country illegally as well.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    have you looked into the "fair tax" great read, check it out if you havent already, the book is written by neal boortz the fair tax is a straight consumption tax that does away with the irs, its a great idea, but doubtful to pass for a new tax code.

    yes I have and I have written my Congressman and Senators many times asking why they will not support this piece of legislation.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    you know, ive seen it, and guess what, we dont know that this trend is man made!! we just have no way of knowing, there are trends, and it looks like we are in one of those trends towards a higher temperature for a number of years, then as has been shown threw the history of the earth, there will be a cooling period, look it up.

    I know, and precisely the reason I was a skeptic for so long. But the evidence shows that we are contributing a lot to it. We are only 10,000 years from the last ice-age and we are at the historically 60,000 year mark.

    Scientists have consistently shown without doubt that we are contributing to global warming. I was skeptic for a long time, so I know where you are coming from, but I was wrong.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • binauralonthecape
    binauralonthecape Posts: 257
    mammasan wrote:
    I know all those damn brown people ruining our country. I guess all those soldiers on the Mexican border are going to stop the millions of illegal immigrants who come into this country that aren't from Central/South America. You did know that there are millions of Asians, Africans, Canadians, and Europeans who enter this country illegally as well.
    ok bud, when this country turns into mush, dont complain, just remember that you felt good when all these people entered this country illegally and wasted our tax dollars keep feeling good about that, dont you like that we educate them for free, and give them in-state tuition for college, great isnt it, doesnt matter what color they are, they are lawbreakers.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    binauralonthecape wrote:
    ok bud, when this country turns into mush, dont complain, just remember that you felt good when all these people entered this country illegally and wasted our tax dollars keep feeling good about that, dont you like that we educate them for free, and give them in-state tuition for college, great isnt it, doesnt matter what color they are, they are lawbreakers.

    Again with the assumptions. I never said that i think we should give illegal immigrants a free ride. I simply stated that placing troops on the mexican border is not going to stop illegal immigration because about 40% of the illegal immigrants in this country are not from Central/South America. That's the simplistic moronic approach of our government, like building a 700 mile wall along a 2,000 mile border.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    hey, it's a brilliant idea.... we build the 700 miles of fence so the only open areas are mountains and desert. the "illegals" then die by the thousands in said mountains and desert, and their piled up bones will make the other 1300 miles of fence!

    Not a bad idea.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    hey, it's a brilliant idea.... we build the 700 miles of fence so the only open areas are mountains and desert. the "illegals" then die by the thousands in said mountains and desert, and their piled up bones will make the other 1300 miles of fence!

    As long as that doesn't cause global warming. ;):D

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