no, but its not just america, remember, there are other places on earth.
Right, but the other places on earth are making an effort. America's pollution control is one of the worst. Lower than China.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
i was talking about the brown cloud....do you think that's a good thing? and talk to kids with asthma and other respiratory ailments....they might disagree with you about the good outweighing the bad.[/quote}
really, ok, so we will sacrifice our cities b/c of some health problems?? you cant be serious!
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So... it's ok to kills a few billion people to support your lifestyle?
cities kill people?? billions of people?? i think more important issues like the rise of islamic fascism is a little more threatening.
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no, but its not just america, remember, there are other places on earth.
Do you live in those places? Do you have a vote in those places? Do you pay taxes in those places? When they fuck up the environment, are they doing it in your name and with your money? Do you have any voice, any say at all in what those places do? Because I don't .... which is why I focus my attention on the one place on earth where my voice is supposed to count for something.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
cities kill people?? billions of people?? i think more important issues like the rise of islamic fascism is a little more threatening.
You don't have to worry about Islam.
Pollution kills people, why you are talking about cities is beyond me, I think you are just twisting words around because you are quite obviously wrong on this issue.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Well I can ramble off 24 countries that have a better public education system that the US. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but America is not the only great country to live in on this planet. There are plenty of other countries that offer the same opportunities and freedoms as this country. Secondly why shouldn't I come down hard on my own country for it's lack of action regardling pollution and global climate change. This is the country I live in and would like for it to be the best possible country it can be.
our public education system sucks b/c its government controlled, i agree that we should always try and make our country the best it could be, never said i didnt.
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really, ok, so we will sacrifice our cities b/c of some health problems?? you cant be serious!
No but if we don't do something about the pollutants we keep pumping into the air, people will not be able to live in the cities.
A few years ago they did a study in the NYC area where they gave pregnant women a back-pack to carry around. In that back-pack there was equipement that measured the amount of carcinagines in the air they where breathing. Out of all the women who particpiated in this study, I believe, it was something like 60-65% of their children developed asthma in their early childhood. Somewhere around 20% of the children had severe respitory problems. This is not a coinsidence.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
our public education system sucks b/c its government controlled, i agree that we should always try and make our country the best it could be, never said i didnt.
That's funny, because all of the education systems that are better than ours are government controlled too.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
our public education system sucks b/c its government controlled, i agree that we should always try and make our country the best it could be, never said i didnt.
It's government controlled in the 24 other countries. Some of those countries are even 3rd world countries. So much for the We are the Best attitude. Can't really be that grteat if some poverty stricken 3rd World country is educating their kids better than we are.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
here in the mountains of arizona, we depend on getting snow in the winter so we have a snowpack in the spring. we have a very dry period from may to july, which is typically our fire season. then we get monsoon rains in july (hopefully). if we get less snow in the winter, then we don't have that snowpack on the ground and things dry out very quickly, increasing the chance of wildfire. to compound this problem, as temperatures increase we get less snow and more rain out of any given storm. rain doesn't do us as much good as snow.
our "average" snowfall for a season is over 100 inches. so far this year we're at 44, and it's all gone because it's been in the 60s and 70s here for the last 3 weeks.
less snow=increased fire danger. global warming=less snow. get it?
id like you to check out the temperature differences in just the past few years there in your hometown, im gonna guess its not more than 2 degree difference, and that doesnt have anything to do with the fact that you got less snow, you just had an unlucky dry winter.
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our public education system sucks b/c its government controlled, i agree that we should always try and make our country the best it could be, never said i didnt.
our public school system sucks? then you hate america... why don't you move somewhere else where the schools aren't as bad, you america hater?
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― Abraham Lincoln
wow, you have a real problem jumping to conclusions. no one said we would do away with cities...that would never be a possibility at this point (although it may be a good solution...i dunno).
although i would argue that there are some cities that could stand to go, from a sustainability standpoint. any huge metropolitan area in the middle of the desert is probably going to have some hard times in the next century, as water becomes more scarce.
well i guess we will have to start converting saltwater to fresh water, since, ya know those polar icecaps are all gonna melt, leading to surging sea levels!!
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you hate our government. our government is made up of americans.
therefore, is it safe to say that you hate americans? and, since americans live in america....
damn... you beat me to it
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Pollution kills people, why you are talking about cities is beyond me, I think you are just twisting words around because you are quite obviously wrong on this issue.
i am very frightened of people like you, wow you are wayyyyyy out there on the left, time to turn the pilot light back on and turn off CNN.
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That's funny, because all of the education systems that are better than ours are government controlled too.
how aout this one, which would you like your child to attend? a public or private school?
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It's government controlled in the 24 other countries. Some of those countries are even 3rd world countries. So much for the We are the Best attitude. Can't really be that grteat if some poverty stricken 3rd World country is educating their kids better than we are.
?? i wouldnt go that far, i hope you are being sarcastic, i think there are alot of problems with our school system, considering the damaging effect that teachers unions have on them, that could be the biggest problem.
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how aout this one, which would you like your child to attend? a public or private school?
Both of my children attended public school. The youngest one graduates this year. The older one went on to a private university, where she graduated summa cum laude with numerous honors and joined Phi Beta Kappa, and is now completing her first year of law school, so it seems her public school education served her quite well.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
We're everywhere ... isn't it scary?!?!! Waaayyyyy out there on the left with just about every reputable scientist on the planet.
:rolleyes:
Yea, I gotta stop reading this thread. It's making me sick.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
our public school system sucks? then you hate america... why don't you move somewhere else where the schools aren't as bad, you america hater?
why dont we get rid of teachers unions>?? can we agree on that?
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how aout this one, which would you like your child to attend? a public or private school?
Private only because the public schools are so fucked up. Fortunetly I can afford to send my kids to private school but what about people who can't. Shoulkd their children be deprived of a top notch education simply because they don't have the finacial means to send them to some private school. Come on we are so supposed to the greatest country in the world, your exact words. There is no other country out there that is better than us, again your words. Then why the hell are our damn schools so shitty.
They took students from one of the better high schools in New Jersey, new Jersey has some of the best public schools in the country, and gave them the usual stae mandated appitude test. Then they gave the same test to students in Belgium and gues what they fucking schooled our kids. they kicked their asses in every way possible.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
well, that shows what you know. 2 degrees is HUGE.
once again, we need snow in the winter and not rain. many times, that 2 degree difference IS the deciding factor on which we get.[/quote but your saying it as if this is gonna happen every year from now on, and it wont.
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why dont we get rid of teachers unions>?? can we agree on that?
I'm not a huge fan of unions in general, I think that they have outlived their usefulness for the most part. However, if you get rid of teachers unions totally, I think that the quality of new teachers coming out of school will greatly decrease. Unions in public schools ensure that the pay rate and benefits are high enough to attract new teachers and to retain them. I would like to make it easier to get rid of bad teachers. Tenure is not a good thing in my opinion.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
We're everywhere ... isn't it scary?!?!! Waaayyyyy out there on the left with just about every reputable scientist on the planet.
:rolleyes:
well, atleast you know where you stand, i try to be a little more educated and levelheaded, i know you wanna feel good about everything and talk like a hero, but some things need a little independent thought.
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Education sucks because kids aren't grounded in reality, they live fantasy lives where personal responsibility and necessity doesn't exist.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
?? i wouldnt go that far, i hope you are being sarcastic, i think there are alot of problems with our school system, considering the damaging effect that teachers unions have on them, that could be the biggest problem.
No I'm serious and the problem is not teachers union. bad teachers is a small part of the problem but the big problem is how we teach our kids. I have several friends who are teachers and they have told me that school administrators tell them that from Sept - May they have to focus of getting their students to pass the state mandated aptitude test. Forget about History, Arts, Geography simply focus on reading, math, and science for the higher grades. And guess why administrators do this because if the scxhool does not produce the best possible test results their funding suffers. Thank you No Child Left Behind. Our kids don't learn they memorize what they need to know to pass some basic test and then they are pushed on to the next grade to do the same god damn thing.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
well, atleast you know where you stand, i try to be a little more educated and levelheaded, i know you wanna feel good about everything and talk like a hero, but some things need a little independent thought.
Oh yes, we've all been quite awed by your obvious high degree of education on the issue. You've been a veritable wealth of useful information.
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Right, but the other places on earth are making an effort. America's pollution control is one of the worst. Lower than China.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
You don't have to worry about Islam.
Pollution kills people, why you are talking about cities is beyond me, I think you are just twisting words around because you are quite obviously wrong on this issue.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
No but if we don't do something about the pollutants we keep pumping into the air, people will not be able to live in the cities.
A few years ago they did a study in the NYC area where they gave pregnant women a back-pack to carry around. In that back-pack there was equipement that measured the amount of carcinagines in the air they where breathing. Out of all the women who particpiated in this study, I believe, it was something like 60-65% of their children developed asthma in their early childhood. Somewhere around 20% of the children had severe respitory problems. This is not a coinsidence.
It's government controlled in the 24 other countries. Some of those countries are even 3rd world countries. So much for the We are the Best attitude. Can't really be that grteat if some poverty stricken 3rd World country is educating their kids better than we are.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
our public school system sucks? then you hate america... why don't you move somewhere else where the schools aren't as bad, you america hater?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
damn... you beat me to it
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
Same can be said about you. Time to turn of Fox News.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
We're everywhere ... isn't it scary?!?!! Waaayyyyy out there on the left with just about every reputable scientist on the planet.
:rolleyes:
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
Yea, I gotta stop reading this thread. It's making me sick.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
Private only because the public schools are so fucked up. Fortunetly I can afford to send my kids to private school but what about people who can't. Shoulkd their children be deprived of a top notch education simply because they don't have the finacial means to send them to some private school. Come on we are so supposed to the greatest country in the world, your exact words. There is no other country out there that is better than us, again your words. Then why the hell are our damn schools so shitty.
They took students from one of the better high schools in New Jersey, new Jersey has some of the best public schools in the country, and gave them the usual stae mandated appitude test. Then they gave the same test to students in Belgium and gues what they fucking schooled our kids. they kicked their asses in every way possible.
that's got to be the stupidest question i've ever heard here.
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
I'm not a huge fan of unions in general, I think that they have outlived their usefulness for the most part. However, if you get rid of teachers unions totally, I think that the quality of new teachers coming out of school will greatly decrease. Unions in public schools ensure that the pay rate and benefits are high enough to attract new teachers and to retain them. I would like to make it easier to get rid of bad teachers. Tenure is not a good thing in my opinion.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
No I'm serious and the problem is not teachers union. bad teachers is a small part of the problem but the big problem is how we teach our kids. I have several friends who are teachers and they have told me that school administrators tell them that from Sept - May they have to focus of getting their students to pass the state mandated aptitude test. Forget about History, Arts, Geography simply focus on reading, math, and science for the higher grades. And guess why administrators do this because if the scxhool does not produce the best possible test results their funding suffers. Thank you No Child Left Behind. Our kids don't learn they memorize what they need to know to pass some basic test and then they are pushed on to the next grade to do the same god damn thing.
:rolleyes: