Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue
*shudders*
and
They hope to attract women who don’t know her, and perhaps even some who don’t yet believe that women’s reproductive health is genuinely threatened by policies reducing access to contraception currently proposed by the Bush Administration, and by the promise to overturn Roe v. Wade that McCain has underscored with Palin’s selection.
Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”
Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”
HELL FUCKIN' YEA IT IS!
I always know things have gone haywire when I start seeing eye to eye with Joe Scarborough!!!
Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue.
Awesome!!!
She's got my vote motherfuckers!
Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.
Honestly, the Right wing of this nation is building up because of bullshit like that website. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And when the Right comes down on you, it will be like a fuckin hammer.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.
Honestly, the Right wing of this nation is building up because of bullshit like that website. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And when the Right comes down on you, it will be like a fuckin hammer.
I'm proud to be considered a nutjob by people like you.
I always know things have gone haywire when I start seeing eye to eye with Joe Scarborough!!!
to hell in a handbasket!
seriously, the more i think about it...i think....what a pawn. obviously though, a willing pawn...b/c given her political leanings and choices, a far-right conservative woman - it just seems 'wrong' to even write that ........she obviously does support the same ideals as mccain, so they ARE well-suited running mates. had to go all the way to alaska to strike gold.
Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.
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Wow, I had no idea. You're a complete fucking idiot. Thanks for alerting me.
Considering 80% of the country thinks your guy in the white house is doing a complete bullshit job, I'd say we're in pretty good shape. But thanks for playing.
My heart disagrees with the idea that American voters are stupid...i have great belief in the American individual...
This country never operated on a reliance upon the individual. Always, strong men have stepped up and taken the reins. A few powerful white men took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not.
The American individual is pretty stupid and probably doesn't even know who Sarah Palin is. Probably most Americans won't know when/if they vote.
That's what we're dealing with here.
And that is why we need a Far Right wing extremist to take the reins and put things right.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
This country never operated on a reliance upon the individual. Always, strong men have stepped up and taken the reins. A few powerful white men took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not.
Yeah, because they were busy enslaving everybody else.
Wow, I had no idea. You're a complete fucking idiot. Thanks for alerting me.
Considering 80% of the country thinks your guy in the white house is doing a complete bullshit job, I'd say we're in pretty good shape. But thanks for playing.
My guy?
Don't get me started on Bush. He's not a conservative - he's a neo-con. Huge difference.
Look: my ideal president would abolish the legislature and the supreme court, destroy all of the abortion clinics, bring the troops home and put them on the border, and kick out all of the immigrants.
Democracy is a crock of shit and you're just playing into the whole stupid game by taking sides, claiming I'm on Bush's side, whatever that is.
I'm on the Right side. And that side won't win until leftists are out of this country.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
My heart disagrees with the idea that American voters are stupid...i have great belief in the American individual...
but when you have so many people who think that Bill Clinton was impeached b/c he got a blow job and you have so many people that actually think Bush won 2004 because of gay marriage initiatives...
you are right, there is a certain portion of the American electorate that IS stupid.
I absolutely agree.
I meant to say roughly half of American voters
My mother in Law refuses to vote for Obama because she is convinced he is a muslim. Offensive on two levels considering that what she means by muslim is of course, terrorist.
my father in law is voting for Obama but has a friend who is not voting for obama because he's black. Offensive on two levels considering it's one thing to keep racism to yourself, but another to admit it to another person....
sigh. So if that's not ignorance and stupidity I don't know what is.
Look: my ideal president would abolish the legislature and the supreme court, destroy all of the abortion clinics, bring the troops home and put them on the border, and kick out all of the immigrants.
Democracy is a crock of shit and you're just playing into the whole stupid game by taking sides, claiming I'm on Bush's side, whatever that is.
I'm on the Right side. And that side won't win until leftists are out of this country.
We have this fun little thing going on called the Constitution; you know that thing your famous strong white men came up with, which makes abolishing the legislature and the supreme court...you know...illegal.
seriously, the more i think about it...i think....what a pawn. obviously though, a willing pawn...b/c given her political leanings and choices, a far-right conservative woman - it just seems 'wrong' to even write that ........
I know... I look at women like her and wonder what makes them tick. I don't get it.
We have this fun little thing going on called the Constitution; you know that thing your famous strong white men came up with, which makes abolishing the legislature and the supreme court...you know...illegal.
And we've also got a Declaration of Independence:
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Nothing is illegal when it's done for God and nation.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Nothing is illegal when it's done for God and nation.
Such Declaration led to the Constitution. According to you, we can't go back to the good ol' days of America, considering we've been off since birth.
I know... I look at women like her and wonder what makes them tick. I don't get it.
my guess: religion.
i look at many women whom i consider extremely intelligent, well-educated, well-read, strong, independent and willful and yet....conservative and anti-choice...and it usually comes down to one thing; their religious beliefs. my mother is one of those women. while i don't share her faith, i respect her having it...and yet, she does baffle me b/c it IS such an at-odds conundrum.
anyhoo...palin is a GREAT fit for the uber-conservative crowd, so wise choice for johnny boy if that is whom he wants to attract...get em how you can!
i always like to believe the american people want MORE than that.....and most especially now. time WILL tell, that's for sure. i am still quite cautiously optimistic, but i AM an optimist at heart...and a dreamer...but i hope it's no dream and i am happy in november. otherwise...i don't even want to fathom it honestly.
i look at many women whom i consider extremely intelligent, well-educated, well-read, strong, independent and willful and yet....conservative and anti-choice...and it usually comes down to one thing; their religious beliefs. my mother is one of those women. while i don't share her faith, i respect her having it...and yet, she does baffle me b/c it IS such an at-odds conundrum.
anyhoo...palin is a GREAT fit for the uber-conservative crowd, so wise choice for johnny boy if that is whom he wants to attract...get em how you can!
i always like to believe the american people want MORE than that.....and most especially now. time WILL tell, that's for sure. i am still quite cautiously optimistic, but i AM an optimist at heart...and a dreamer...but i hope it's no dream and i am happy in november. otherwise...i don't even want to fathom it honestly.
I agree. Religion...scoring brownie points with the man upstairs...
And yes. The evangelicals are dancing in their knee-length skirts tonight with this pick.
I share your optimism, by the way. I'm cautious, though....because I remember a time when I never DREAMED GWB could get elected AGAIN.
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I'm a weak white guy. Corporatewhore mentioned that America was made by "a few powerful white men that took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not." He then said that we should abolish the legislature, which is when I thought it was important to remind him that those same white men came up with a Constitution that made that illegal.
i look at many women whom i consider extremely intelligent, well-educated, well-read, strong, independent and willful and yet....conservative and anti-choice...and it usually comes down to one thing; their religious beliefs. my mother is one of those women. while i don't share her faith, i respect her having it...and yet, she does baffle me b/c it IS such an at-odds conundrum.
Let me guess . . . Catholic?
I know someone very similar
NERDS!
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I'm a weak white guy. Corporatewhore mentioned that America was made by "a few powerful white men that took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not." He then said that we should abolish the legislature, which is when I thought it was important to remind him that those same white men came up with a Constitution that made that illegal.
Ok, I was just curious. I think race should be left out of politics is all. I understand some people don't agree and like to play that double standard thing. There are a few on here that use that practice.
I know... I look at women like her and wonder what makes them tick. I don't get it.
try talking to people with different backgrounds than yourself. you might learn something
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
i look at many women whom i consider extremely intelligent, well-educated, well-read, strong, independent and willful and yet....conservative and anti-choice...and it usually comes down to one thing; their religious beliefs. my mother is one of those women. while i don't share her faith, i respect her having it...and yet, she does baffle me b/c it IS such an at-odds conundrum.
Funny...i know a lot of stupid, uneducated, metrosexual guys who are not conservative and who are pro-abortion because it comes down to one thing: they want to be liked, and they especially want to be liked by chicks.
again, someone needs to tell them that women are more pro-life than men. might help them out
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
John McCain can easily sell his pick of a woman V.P. to Hillary supporters by showing them how economically savvy he is. He'll help reduce the budget by paying her less than he would a male V.P.
Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) skipped the vote on the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which “restores the longstanding interpretation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act,” overturned last year by a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling. In New Orleans today, McCain explained his opposition to the bill by claiming it “opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems.” Later in Kentucky, he added that instead of legislation allowing women to fight for equal pay, they simply need “education and training“:
"Where there is sacrifice there is someone collecting the sacrificial offerings."-- Ayn Rand
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
This woman is a joke. Johnny Mac picked her because she has basically no record to be called on and the anti abortion crowd love her. I've heard her baby is actually the product of her teenage son and daughter. I wouldn't doubt it, this woman has something to hide, BIG TIME. Did you notice her voice sounds exactly like Plankton's computer wife on Spongebob. I have also heard she has had a questionable relationship with a moose.
mixed race dude goes with the older white guy to 'balance' himself out....the old white guy goes with a female to 'balance' himself out. interesting, interesting. of course, i am more interested in who the president is....so no swaying with VP choices. obama is it for me. i just hope that as many say lots are voting for obama simply b/c he is black :rolleyes:...no one is 'dazzled' simply by the idea of a female VP. sure, mccain is old, so she could get the top job.....but none the less.......she still is 'only' VP....so go with the prez candidate of importance!
to the post above, most women will go with the presidential candidate who BESt represents women's rights/choices....and that would be obama by a landslide over mccain, no matter who he chose for VP.
HAHAHA! I just said that in another thread without reading this!
I actually think timing dictated this choice more than the Hillary factor, if you will. That is, after Obama's speech in Denver, which even Karl Rove admitted was good, they had to change their game, and take media attention away from the Dems and reduce the polls bounce. Besides, taking Hillary's votes... the PUMA issue got pretty much resolved this week. They were still few hardcore... lunatics, I would say, because you need to vote on the issues, not based on the gender (or race) of a candidate.
Also, up until Thursday, Romney and Pawlenty were the picks. I wonder how they feel now!
I just think it's going to be hard for Biden to push a message for "Change" to support Obama when he's been in Congress since Nixon and Obama was 11 and Palin was 8 when he started serving.
Do you mean, that because he's been in Congress all those years he can't be for change?!
Rather than length of service, it should depend instead on his actions and achievements during this time, whether they conform to a change and progressive agenda or not. Besides, an attitude to change (in favour or resistant) is based on the psychological make and personality of people, not age.
In any case, Biden was chosen as a counter-weight to the accusations of lack of experience and foreign experience, at that.
Her dad was a high school science teacher, do you really think she doesn't believe in evolution?
I keep forgetting about this peculiar American issue, Creationism and Intelligent Design in schools. I would assume it would be taught in religion class, and that participation to this class would not be mandatory, right?
Can't believe people would even put evolution and creationism on the same level... science vs one spefic religion belief system
and it's not some 'liberal agenda'.....i just fully believe religion has no business in the public school classroom. religion at home, science in school.
I actually think it would be positive to teach ALL religious beliefs (catholic, protestant, muslim, buddhist, hindu, judaism, etc etc) in school in a non-mandatory class. It would help eliminate a lot of the misunderstanding and pre-conceptions.
Of course, if it's only to teach the American fundamentalist variety of Christianity, then no.
Comments
:eek:
shut your mouth!
(and i say/mean that in the nicest way possible!)
Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue
*shudders*
and
They hope to attract women who don’t know her, and perhaps even some who don’t yet believe that women’s reproductive health is genuinely threatened by policies reducing access to contraception currently proposed by the Bush Administration, and by the promise to overturn Roe v. Wade that McCain has underscored with Palin’s selection.
Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”
HELL FUCKIN' YEA IT IS!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I always know things have gone haywire when I start seeing eye to eye with Joe Scarborough!!!
Awesome!!!
She's got my vote motherfuckers!
Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.
Honestly, the Right wing of this nation is building up because of bullshit like that website. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And when the Right comes down on you, it will be like a fuckin hammer.
-Enoch Powell
I'm proud to be considered a nutjob by people like you.
to hell in a handbasket!
seriously, the more i think about it...i think....what a pawn. obviously though, a willing pawn...b/c given her political leanings and choices, a far-right conservative woman - it just seems 'wrong' to even write that
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Wow, I had no idea. You're a complete fucking idiot. Thanks for alerting me.
Considering 80% of the country thinks your guy in the white house is doing a complete bullshit job, I'd say we're in pretty good shape. But thanks for playing.
This country never operated on a reliance upon the individual. Always, strong men have stepped up and taken the reins. A few powerful white men took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not.
The American individual is pretty stupid and probably doesn't even know who Sarah Palin is. Probably most Americans won't know when/if they vote.
That's what we're dealing with here.
And that is why we need a Far Right wing extremist to take the reins and put things right.
-Enoch Powell
Yeah, because they were busy enslaving everybody else.
My guy?
Don't get me started on Bush. He's not a conservative - he's a neo-con. Huge difference.
Look: my ideal president would abolish the legislature and the supreme court, destroy all of the abortion clinics, bring the troops home and put them on the border, and kick out all of the immigrants.
Democracy is a crock of shit and you're just playing into the whole stupid game by taking sides, claiming I'm on Bush's side, whatever that is.
I'm on the Right side. And that side won't win until leftists are out of this country.
-Enoch Powell
I absolutely agree.
I meant to say roughly half of American voters
My mother in Law refuses to vote for Obama because she is convinced he is a muslim. Offensive on two levels considering that what she means by muslim is of course, terrorist.
my father in law is voting for Obama but has a friend who is not voting for obama because he's black. Offensive on two levels considering it's one thing to keep racism to yourself, but another to admit it to another person....
sigh. So if that's not ignorance and stupidity I don't know what is.
We have this fun little thing going on called the Constitution; you know that thing your famous strong white men came up with, which makes abolishing the legislature and the supreme court...you know...illegal.
I know... I look at women like her and wonder what makes them tick. I don't get it.
And we've also got a Declaration of Independence:
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Nothing is illegal when it's done for God and nation.
-Enoch Powell
Such Declaration led to the Constitution. According to you, we can't go back to the good ol' days of America, considering we've been off since birth.
Nah, I said we need to kick out all of the scum and start a Right wing dictatorship for a little while. Democracy is overrated.
If you can't guarantee the freedom of the unborn in a democracy, you can't guarantee anyone's freedom. At which point, you must make a purge or two.
-Enoch Powell
You're one of those guys who would have fit in well in Germany circa 1939. Born in the wrong time, I'm telling you.
my guess: religion.
i look at many women whom i consider extremely intelligent, well-educated, well-read, strong, independent and willful and yet....conservative and anti-choice...and it usually comes down to one thing; their religious beliefs. my mother is one of those women. while i don't share her faith, i respect her having it...and yet, she does baffle me b/c it IS such an at-odds conundrum.
anyhoo...palin is a GREAT fit for the uber-conservative crowd, so wise choice for johnny boy if that is whom he wants to attract...get em how you can!
i always like to believe the american people want MORE than that.....and most especially now. time WILL tell, that's for sure. i am still quite cautiously optimistic, but i AM an optimist at heart...and a dreamer...but i hope it's no dream and i am happy in november. otherwise...i don't even want to fathom it honestly.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I agree. Religion...scoring brownie points with the man upstairs...
And yes. The evangelicals are dancing in their knee-length skirts tonight with this pick.
I share your optimism, by the way. I'm cautious, though....because I remember a time when I never DREAMED GWB could get elected AGAIN.
What are you?
I'm a weak white guy. Corporatewhore mentioned that America was made by "a few powerful white men that took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not." He then said that we should abolish the legislature, which is when I thought it was important to remind him that those same white men came up with a Constitution that made that illegal.
Let me guess . . . Catholic?
I know someone very similar
Ok, I was just curious. I think race should be left out of politics is all. I understand some people don't agree and like to play that double standard thing. There are a few on here that use that practice.
try talking to people with different backgrounds than yourself. you might learn something
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Funny...i know a lot of stupid, uneducated, metrosexual guys who are not conservative and who are pro-abortion because it comes down to one thing: they want to be liked, and they especially want to be liked by chicks.
again, someone needs to tell them that women are more pro-life than men. might help them out
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) skipped the vote on the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which “restores the longstanding interpretation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act,” overturned last year by a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling. In New Orleans today, McCain explained his opposition to the bill by claiming it “opens us up to lawsuits for all kinds of problems.” Later in Kentucky, he added that instead of legislation allowing women to fight for equal pay, they simply need “education and training“:
"Some of my friends sit around every evening and they worry about the times ahead,
But everybody else is overwhelmed by indifference and the promise of an early bed..."-- Elvis Costello
HAHAHA! I just said that in another thread without reading this!
I actually think timing dictated this choice more than the Hillary factor, if you will. That is, after Obama's speech in Denver, which even Karl Rove admitted was good, they had to change their game, and take media attention away from the Dems and reduce the polls bounce. Besides, taking Hillary's votes... the PUMA issue got pretty much resolved this week. They were still few hardcore... lunatics, I would say, because you need to vote on the issues, not based on the gender (or race) of a candidate.
Also, up until Thursday, Romney and Pawlenty were the picks. I wonder how they feel now!
Do you mean, that because he's been in Congress all those years he can't be for change?!
Rather than length of service, it should depend instead on his actions and achievements during this time, whether they conform to a change and progressive agenda or not. Besides, an attitude to change (in favour or resistant) is based on the psychological make and personality of people, not age.
In any case, Biden was chosen as a counter-weight to the accusations of lack of experience and foreign experience, at that.
I keep forgetting about this peculiar American issue, Creationism and Intelligent Design in schools. I would assume it would be taught in religion class, and that participation to this class would not be mandatory, right?
Can't believe people would even put evolution and creationism on the same level... science vs one spefic religion belief system
I actually think it would be positive to teach ALL religious beliefs (catholic, protestant, muslim, buddhist, hindu, judaism, etc etc) in school in a non-mandatory class. It would help eliminate a lot of the misunderstanding and pre-conceptions.
Of course, if it's only to teach the American fundamentalist variety of Christianity, then no.