it effect 9000 out of 150,000,000 women a year,so drug them all?
all you need is a regular pap smear and you can detect and safely treat without vaccine.
long term effects are unknown at this time.like being a guinea pig?
if you trust gov. supplied information that is furnished by the drug company itself,then that's your right.if you wanna inject this poison(this vaccine contains aluminum which is linked to Alzheimer's disease)into your daughter,it's your right.
BUT NO POLITICIAN IS GONNA DECIDE WHAT IS BEST FOR MY CHILD!!!
The problem is that the VAST majority of women in the world don't get regular pap smears because they don't have clean drinking water, let alone decent medical care. I agree that the vaccine hasn't been studied for 25 years, but should we wait that long to see if there are any side effects that haven't been detected in the 6 years it has been studied while there are women that are DYING of cervical cancer.
And I trust scientific studies conducted by scientists all over the world (France, Taiwan, UK). These studies are not funded by the pharmaceutical companies. They are conducted by people who have a genuine interest in saving lives.
Lastly, aluminum does not cause alzheimer's, it caused by the abnormal deposition of a protein called beta amyloid and from tangles of a protein called tau inside neurons. Higher levels of aluminum have been found in the brains of SOME alzheimer's patients but it hasn't been shown to be a cause of the diseaes by ANY scientific study.
I am not saying that any politician should make all health decisions for your child. My original objection to your posts was that you said all vaccines are dangerous and cause diseases, which has been conclusively proven to be false.
he's just a guy who put the links together,calm down scooby.
and who is he that i should trust him as an unbiased source with no agenda? some dude living in his mom's basement in england is supposed to be the guide for all my health decisions?
also, where did that osama bin laden quote you listed the other day come from?
and who is he that i should trust him as an unbiased source with no agenda? some dude living in his mom's basement in england is supposed to be the guide for all my health decisions?
also, where did that osama bin laden quote you listed the other day come from?
why is it anyone who does not express your view is uneducated/pot smoking paranoid/lives in moms basement??
the Osama quote came from Osama.it was in the main stream news years ago!!guess you missed it!!
William Shakespeare
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
wise,wise man:-)
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
all you need is a regular pap smear and you can detect and safely treat without vaccine.
Not that I have any desire to argue with you at all JamMastaE, so please this is just a comment, ok? But regular pap smears is no guarantee that you will detect HPV or CINI II III or any other abnormalities. There are a percentage of false negatives (normal) and false positives every year with pap smears and as the recall rate for most women on a negative smear who has had a previously normal past history is two years, there is plenty of time for problems to develop between smears. And that is consisent within all laboratories. We had a very big case here in Australia a few years ago where a particular laboratory was incorrectly reporting pap smear results as negative (normal) when in fact the women had all kinds of problems. So I'd just like to make the point that a regular pap smear is a very important thing that a women can do to help guard against abnormalities BUT it doesn't stop HPV and it is also a fallable test.
why is it anyone who does not express your view is uneducated/pot smoking paranoid/lives in moms basement??
the Osama quote came from Osama.it was in the main stream news years ago!!guess you missed it!!
funny, cos neither i, nor any of the other well-informed people on here had ever heard it. and we were all asking you. i dont suppose you can find a legit source for it now can you?
it's not anyone who doesn't share my views, it's anyone who believes there is a huge conspiracy out there to get them. be it the christians who think there's a war on christmas and their religion, or the idiots who think vaccines are poisoned and cheney flew the 9/11 planes himself via remote. a lack of brain cells and a hyper-active imagination driven by a persecution complex is the only thing sufficient to explain such ideas.
So wait...can other girls catch this cancer during recess...or lunch...or P.E.?
only if daddys little girl is riding someone at the time.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
why is it anyone who does not express your view is uneducated/pot smoking paranoid/lives in moms basement??
the Osama quote came from Osama.it was in the main stream news years ago!!guess you missed it!!
I mess with these guys all the time Jam. It's the shear effort they exert attempting to be the smartest guy in the thread that I enjoy watching; and occasionally prodding them towards it.
Don't get me wrong though Jam. You're a complete tool.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
funny, cos neither i, nor any of the other well-informed people on here had ever heard it. and we were all asking you. i dont suppose you can find a legit source for it now can you?
it's not anyone who doesn't share my views, it's anyone who believes there is a huge conspiracy out there to get them. be it the christians who think there's a war on christmas and their religion, or the idiots who think vaccines are poisoned and cheney flew the 9/11 planes himself via remote. a lack of brain cells and a hyper-active imagination driven by a persecution complex is the only thing sufficient to explain such ideas.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I mess with these guys all the time Jam. It's the shear effort they exert attempting to be the smartest guy in the thread that I enjoy watching; and occasionally prodding them towards it.
Don't get me wrong though Jam. You're a complete tool.[/quote"]
yes,a tool of justice.you inbred hillbilly.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
yes, very, thank you. cant say i recall that new release. that's interesting to say the least. the tough part is trying to figure out between two scumbags, george bush and usama bin laden, which one is lying?
Dude, are you serious?? For someone who claims to be so ENLIGHTENED, you are awfully quick to put someone in a box.
And I really am not trying to get in a pissing contest with you, but I noticed that you seem to reply to the opinion posts pretty quick with another insult, but never reply to the posts with facts, etc. What's with that?? Aren't we all trying to have an intelligent discourse here??
Dude, are you serious?? For someone who claims to be so ENLIGHTENED, you are awfully quick to put someone in a box.
And I really am not trying to get in a pissing contest with you, but I noticed that you seem to reply to the opinion posts pretty quick with another insult, but never reply to the posts with facts, etc. What's with that?? Aren't we all trying to have an intelligent discourse here??
he called me a tool.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I noticed that you seem to reply to the opinion posts pretty quick with another insult, but never reply to the posts with facts, etc. What's with that??
i post plenty of facts,it's not my fault that those in denial chose to laugh it off.one day it will all come clear.and you won't be laughing.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
i post plenty of facts,it's not my fault that those in denial chose to laugh it off.one day it will all come clear.and you won't be laughing.
So you are so unbelieveably arrogant and self righteous that you can't even acknowledge the fact that you may not be right and there are plenty of people with legitimate, logical viewpoints in opposition to yours?
So you are so unbelieveably arrogant and self righteous that you can't even acknowledge the fact that you may not be right and there are plenty of people with legitimate, logical viewpoints in opposition to yours?
LOL That's exactly what he means. You're new here aren't you?
The rest of us just enjoy teasing and mocking his type. We aren't being mean, just consistent.
Just wait, he'll stop and try to take the high road eventually.
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
So what? Yeah, he was out of line, but remember the whole two wrongs don't make a right thing you learned in kindergarten??
true.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
So you are so unbelieveably arrogant and self righteous that you can't even acknowledge the fact that you may not be right and there are plenty of people with legitimate, logical viewpoints in opposition to yours?
i know i'm right.....
and this is a republic not a democracy.thats what protects independent self thinking citizens against mob rule idiocy
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
.....Aren't we all trying to have an intelligent discourse here??
Clearly not ReleasH. Shame. I think this is a really interested thread. AND a very important topic. Now if I could just find a way to only read the relevant bits.
Clearly not ReleasH. Shame. I think this is a really interested thread. AND a very important topic. Now if I could just find a way to only read the relevant bits.
Yeah, I know. Apparently it is more fun to call each other tools and hillbillies rather than debate a social issue. Can't blame me for trying.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I could argue with you that both terms republic and democracy apply to the US, but honestly I'm too tired to go into that debate. Besides the point of this thread is to discuss the HPV vaccine.
i stand behind your right to choose what you want,i hope you stand for mine.that's what it's supposed to be about.your going to believe what you want,i the same.to agree to disagree is how the civilized coexist.
goodnight
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Yeah, I know. Apparently it is more fun to call each other tools and hillbillies rather than debate a social issue. Can't blame me for trying.
Think you are doing fine. I have managed to pay attention to the important bits and mostly ignore the "my dicks bigger than your dick" conversation! So you are a supporter of the vaccine then? I think it's pretty amazing myself. Obviously I have some concerns, but any new medication or vaccine can have it's problems. BUT if they get this up and running here it'll be fantastic. Just hope they are sensible about the implimentation of the vaccination program.
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The problem is that the VAST majority of women in the world don't get regular pap smears because they don't have clean drinking water, let alone decent medical care. I agree that the vaccine hasn't been studied for 25 years, but should we wait that long to see if there are any side effects that haven't been detected in the 6 years it has been studied while there are women that are DYING of cervical cancer.
And I trust scientific studies conducted by scientists all over the world (France, Taiwan, UK). These studies are not funded by the pharmaceutical companies. They are conducted by people who have a genuine interest in saving lives.
Lastly, aluminum does not cause alzheimer's, it caused by the abnormal deposition of a protein called beta amyloid and from tangles of a protein called tau inside neurons. Higher levels of aluminum have been found in the brains of SOME alzheimer's patients but it hasn't been shown to be a cause of the diseaes by ANY scientific study.
I am not saying that any politician should make all health decisions for your child. My original objection to your posts was that you said all vaccines are dangerous and cause diseases, which has been conclusively proven to be false.
and who is he that i should trust him as an unbiased source with no agenda? some dude living in his mom's basement in england is supposed to be the guide for all my health decisions?
also, where did that osama bin laden quote you listed the other day come from?
why is it anyone who does not express your view is uneducated/pot smoking paranoid/lives in moms basement??
the Osama quote came from Osama.it was in the main stream news years ago!!guess you missed it!!
William Shakespeare
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
wise,wise man:-)
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Not that I have any desire to argue with you at all JamMastaE, so please this is just a comment, ok? But regular pap smears is no guarantee that you will detect HPV or CINI II III or any other abnormalities. There are a percentage of false negatives (normal) and false positives every year with pap smears and as the recall rate for most women on a negative smear who has had a previously normal past history is two years, there is plenty of time for problems to develop between smears. And that is consisent within all laboratories. We had a very big case here in Australia a few years ago where a particular laboratory was incorrectly reporting pap smear results as negative (normal) when in fact the women had all kinds of problems. So I'd just like to make the point that a regular pap smear is a very important thing that a women can do to help guard against abnormalities BUT it doesn't stop HPV and it is also a fallable test.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
funny, cos neither i, nor any of the other well-informed people on here had ever heard it. and we were all asking you. i dont suppose you can find a legit source for it now can you?
it's not anyone who doesn't share my views, it's anyone who believes there is a huge conspiracy out there to get them. be it the christians who think there's a war on christmas and their religion, or the idiots who think vaccines are poisoned and cheney flew the 9/11 planes himself via remote. a lack of brain cells and a hyper-active imagination driven by a persecution complex is the only thing sufficient to explain such ideas.
only if daddys little girl is riding someone at the time.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I mess with these guys all the time Jam. It's the shear effort they exert attempting to be the smartest guy in the thread that I enjoy watching; and occasionally prodding them towards it.
Don't get me wrong though Jam. You're a complete tool.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
HAPPY?!!
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I mess with these guys all the time Jam. It's the shear effort they exert attempting to be the smartest guy in the thread that I enjoy watching; and occasionally prodding them towards it.
Don't get me wrong though Jam. You're a complete tool.[/quote"]
yes,a tool of justice.you inbred hillbilly.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
yes, very, thank you. cant say i recall that new release. that's interesting to say the least. the tough part is trying to figure out between two scumbags, george bush and usama bin laden, which one is lying?
I'm just kiddin' bro. You're a blast to have around! People like you give me a reason to continue being a prick. An intelligent prick mind you...
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Dude, are you serious?? For someone who claims to be so ENLIGHTENED, you are awfully quick to put someone in a box.
And I really am not trying to get in a pissing contest with you, but I noticed that you seem to reply to the opinion posts pretty quick with another insult, but never reply to the posts with facts, etc. What's with that?? Aren't we all trying to have an intelligent discourse here??
he called me a tool.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I actually meant to call you a tool bag.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
i post plenty of facts,it's not my fault that those in denial chose to laugh it off.one day it will all come clear.and you won't be laughing.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
So what? Yeah, he was out of line, but remember the whole two wrongs don't make a right thing you learned in kindergarten??
Kind of like the return of Christ?
lol That one's for Abook and soulsing.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
So you are so unbelieveably arrogant and self righteous that you can't even acknowledge the fact that you may not be right and there are plenty of people with legitimate, logical viewpoints in opposition to yours?
LOL That's exactly what he means. You're new here aren't you?
The rest of us just enjoy teasing and mocking his type. We aren't being mean, just consistent.
Just wait, he'll stop and try to take the high road eventually.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
true.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
i know i'm right.....
and this is a republic not a democracy.thats what protects independent self thinking citizens against mob rule idiocy
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I may be new but I highly doubt he is going to take the high road.
Clearly not ReleasH. Shame. I think this is a really interested thread. AND a very important topic. Now if I could just find a way to only read the relevant bits.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Yeah, well I actually know I'm right too. And I understand the science to back my beliefs up.
And I'm pretty sure I live in a democracy (a flawed one, but still a democracy).
Yeah, I know. Apparently it is more fun to call each other tools and hillbillies rather than debate a social issue. Can't blame me for trying.
http://www.trimonline.org/website/deceived.htm
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
i stand behind your right to choose what you want,i hope you stand for mine.that's what it's supposed to be about.your going to believe what you want,i the same.to agree to disagree is how the civilized coexist.
goodnight
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Think you are doing fine.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift