i'm high strung because it scares me how many of my countrymen are sheep
Just because I (and many others) agree with a viewpoint, doesn't make us sheep. It is dangerous to take any stance (majority or minority) on an issue without getting the knowledge to understand the issue.
I could just as easily call you a sheep for choosing to believe that all vaccines are bad based on non-scientific sources, but as we agreed yesterday everyone is entitled to have their own opinion.
Whats the problem here. We have conclusive scientific proof this thing could save thousands of lives a year. No brainer. If I had a daughter, shed get the shot. Hell id give it to her myself
most children are given vaccinations to prevent many different diseases such as polio,diptheria,hepatitis,measles,mumps,rubella...etc.etc.
are these vaccines mandatory for all children born in the U.S.A?????
Ok, I'm not a parent either, but ...
Vaccinations are required for children to attend public schools (and most private or parochial schools). These vaccines are for infectious diseases (measles, mumps, rubella) and 1 sexually transmitted disease (hep . They protect kids from getting and transmitting SERIOUS and life threatening diseases. Hence, why the flu vax isn't required, but highly recommended.
Vaccinations are required for children to attend public schools (and most private or parochial schools). These vaccines are for infectious diseases (measles, mumps, rubella) and 1 sexually transmitted disease (hep . They protect kids from getting and transmitting SERIOUS and life threatening diseases. Hence, why the flu vax isn't required, but highly recommended.
so basically every single kid is being forced by the government to be vaccinated.....right???
95% of all usa born children either attend a public or parochial school.....right???
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so basically every single kid is being forced by the government to be vaccinated.....right???
95% of all usa born children either attend a public or parochial school.....right???
If you wanna say forced, then yeah. It is a public health issue ... so we don't have epidemic outbreaks of serious but preventable diseases. And no matter what JamMastaE says, the vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective.
I got the HPV vaccine 'cause I don't want to get cervical cancer. Since the only other way to not get cervical cancer is to never have sex ... I chose screaming orgasms and 3 shots in the arm.
My fiance is adamant against mandatory vacciness....simply for her reasoning that any woman who is having sex SHOULD go for a yearly pap test and that such....just doing that will prevent anything fatal (as explained by her gyno.)....since the development of the disease is reliatively slow you would not see no cancer to cancer in one year....mandatory vaccines are absurd IMHO.....especially for young children.....this is type of crap that I do not want the government dictating policy.....
My fiance is adamant against mandatory vacciness....simply for her reasoning that any woman who is having sex SHOULD go for a yearly pap test and that such....just doing that will prevent anything fatal (as explained by her gyno.)....since the development of the disease is reliatively slow you would not see no cancer to cancer in one year....mandatory vaccines are absurd IMHO.....especially for young children.....this is type of crap that I do not want the government dictating policy.....
see my post a few pages back ... the majority of women in the world don't get pap smears thus don't detect cervical cancer early. Should we just pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist and only worry about women in the US and Europe???
I got the HPV vaccine 'cause I don't want to get cervical cancer. Since the only other way to not get cervical cancer is to never have sex ... I chose screaming orgasms and 3 shots in the arm.
see my post a few pages back ... the majority of women in the world don't get pap smears thus don't detect cervical cancer early. Should we just pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist and only worry about women in the US and Europe???
Actually here in Australia we have a central data base of pap smears and a routine reminder system, which sends a letter if a lady goes past her recommended recall time. And yes, all smears in Australia are routinely sent to the registry BUT a woman can opt out. Most don't. Our pap smear education and reminder system is actually very good here. Perhaps this should be implemented in more places around the world.
............simply for her reasoning that any woman who is having sex SHOULD go for a yearly pap test and that such....just doing that will prevent anything fatal (as explained by her gyno.)....since the development of the disease is reliatively slow you would not see no cancer to cancer in one year...
I did mention false negatives a few pages back RockinInCanada. I agree that pap smears are a great idea but there is a statistical representation of paps that are reported as negative (normal) which are in fact not. I completely agree that women should have regular pap smears but don't be believing that just having a regular yearly pap would mean that you are guaranteed no cancer in one year, because that is incorrect. And particularly if you should luck upon a false negative, that would mean that you thought you were ok for a year when in fact you weren't. It does happen. Probably more often that people imagine. I am an advocate for the vaccine because it PREVENTS HPV to start with. Therefore eliminating the need to check what is going on to make sure you aren't infected. But I don't support forced vaccination. And I do understand peoples hesitation with the vaccination itself.
I did mention false negatives a few pages back RockinInCanada. I agree that pap smears are a great idea but there is a statistical representation of paps that are reported as negative (normal) which are in fact not. I completely agree that women should have regular pap smears but don't be believing that just having a regular yearly pap would mean that you are guaranteed no cancer in one year, because that is incorrect. And particularly if you should luck upon a false negative, that would mean that you thought you were ok for a year when in fact you weren't. It does happen. Probably more often that people imagine. I am an advocate for the vaccine because it PREVENTS HPV to start with. Therefore eliminating the need to check what is going on to make sure you aren't infected. But I don't support forced vaccination. And I do understand peoples hesitation with the vaccination itself.
Just a small correction, the vaccine is for 6 out of 100 strains of HPV. Just the ones that lead to cervical cancer. HPV has also been linked to testicular(?) cancer. As far as I know, only 2 strains of HPV have symptoms.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Just a small correction, the vaccine is for 6 out of 100 strains of HPV. Just the ones that lead to cervical cancer. HPV has also been linked to testicular(?) cancer. As far as I know, only 2 strains of HPV have symptoms.
Actually, the Gardasil vaccine for HPV covers strains 6, 11, 16 and 18.
HPV 16 and 18 cause approx 70% of cervical cancers
HPV 6 and 11 cause approx 90% of genital warts.
Actually, the Gardasil vaccine for HPV covers strains 6, 11, 16 and 18.
HPV 16 and 18 cause approx 70% of cervical cancers
HPV 6 and 11 cause approx 90% of genital warts.
Sweet, sounds like a good vaccine, I wonder if men can get it.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Sweet, sounds like a good vaccine, I wonder if men can get it.
It technically hasn't been approved yet in men, but I know someone got her pediatrician to give it to her son off label. Can't hurt to ask your doc about it.
My fiance is adamant against mandatory vacciness....simply for her reasoning that any woman who is having sex SHOULD go for a yearly pap test and that such....just doing that will prevent anything fatal (as explained by her gyno.)....since the development of the disease is reliatively slow you would not see no cancer to cancer in one year....mandatory vaccines are absurd IMHO.....especially for young children.....this is type of crap that I do not want the government dictating policy.....
As someone undergoing cancer treatment, I'm here to tell you that prevention is about a gazillion times better than any cure.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
It's the only way to live!! Even better if I'm listening to PJ in the background.
Ah yes!!! Excellent choice ReleasH! Although, I must confess that TOOL is my sex music of choice. I have an easier time putting Maynard in the background than I ever could with Eddie!!
Just a small correction, the vaccine is for 6 out of 100 strains of HPV. Just the ones that lead to cervical cancer. HPV has also been linked to testicular(?) cancer. As far as I know, only 2 strains of HPV have symptoms.
Point taken. You know I'm not a facts and figures girl Ahnimus!
Point taken. You know I'm not a facts and figures girl Ahnimus!
SO SOME HPV then.
lol,. you know I'm just annal
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
13. How are human papillomaviruses (HPVs) associated with the development of cervical cancer?
Human papillomaviruses (HPVs) are a group of more than 100 viruses. Some types of HPV cause the common warts that grow on hands and feet. Some HPVs are sexually transmitted and cause wart-like growths on the genitals, but these types do not lead to cancer. More than a dozen other sexually transmitted HPVs have been linked to cervical cancer.
HPV infection is the primary risk factor for cervical cancer. However, although HPV infection is very common, only a very small percentage of women with untreated HPV infections develop cervical cancer.
-and-
"It is important for girls to get HPV vaccine before they become sexually active. The vaccine is most effective for girls/women who get vaccinated before their first sexual contact. It does not work as well for those who were exposed to the virus before getting the vaccine.However, most women will still benefit from getting the vaccine because they will be protected against other virus types contained in the vaccine."
It irks me that testing isn't required before giving the vaccine. Women are going to think that they are protected against something when they're not. You can be infected for years and not have a single symptom.
Someone here said that the vaccine prevents HPV in the first place and that's just not true! There are 30 strains that are transmitted sexually and this vaccine protects against 4 of them. 2 of those 4 rarely cause cancer...just warts. The other 2 are given a high protection rate but only if the vaccine is given before any sexual activity whatsover. Get vaccinnated and there's still a 30% chance of getting cervical cancer. Those numbers aren't very impressive in my eyes. They're something but not enough.
-they've tested this thing for 6 years on 11,000 people (they're not even sure how long protection lasts) and it should be mandatory for millions? With a price tag of over 350.00 per person?
edit---This vaccine should really be called a Vaginal Wart Preventor because it provides more protection from those (90%) than cancer.
Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
Cowpox vaccine was believed able to immunize people against smallpox. At the time this vaccine was introduced, there was already a decline in the number of cases of smallpox. Japan introduced compulsory vaccination in 1872. In 1892 there were 165,774 cases of smallpox with 29,979 deaths despite the vaccination program. A stringent compulsory smallpox vaccine program, which prosecuted those refusing the vaccine, was instituted in England in 1867. Within 4 years 97.5 % of persons between 2 and 50 had been vaccinated. The following year England experienced the worst smallpox epidemic[1] in its history with 44,840 deaths. Between 1871 and 1880 the incidence of smallpox escalated from 28 to 46 per 100,000. The smallpox vaccine does not work.
Much of the success attributed to vaccination programs may actually have been due to improvement in public health related to water quality and sanitation, less crowded living conditions, better nutrition, and higher standards of living. Typically the incidence of a disease was clearly declining before the vaccine for that disease was introduced. In England the incidence of polio had decreased by 82 % before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956.
In the early 1900s an astute Indiana physician, Dr. W.B. Clarke, stated "Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced. I have had to deal with two hundred cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an un-vaccinated [2] person."
There is a widely held belief that vaccines should not be criticized because the public might refuse to take them. This is valid only if the benefits exceed the known risks of the vaccines.
Do Vaccines Actually Prevent Disease?
This important question does not appear to have ever been adequately studied. Vaccines are enormously profitable for drug companies and recent legislation in the U.S. has exempted lawsuits against pharmaceutical firms in the event of adverse reactions to vaccines which are very common. In 1975 Germany stopped requiring pertussis (whooping cough) vaccination. Today less than 10 % of German children are vaccinated against pertussis. The number of cases of pertussis has steadily decreased[3] even though far fewer children are receiving pertussis vaccine.
Measles outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination rates over 98 % in all parts of the U.S. including areas that had reported no cases of measles for years. As measles immunization rates rise to high levels measles becomes a disease seen only in vaccinated persons. An outbreak of measles occurred in a school where 100 % of the children had been vaccinated. Measles mortality rates had declined by 97 % in England before measles vaccination was instituted.
In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic[4] in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months.
After institution of diphtheria vaccination in England and Wales in 1894 the number of deaths from diphtheria rose by 20 % in the subsequent 15 years. Germany had compulsory vaccination in 1939. The rate of diphtheria spiraled to 150,000 cases that year whereas, Norway which did not have compulsory vaccination, had only 50 cases of diphtheria the same year.
The continued presence of these infectious diseases in children who have received vaccines proves that life long immunity which follows natural infection does not occur in persons receiving vaccines. The injection process places the viral particles into the blood without providing any clear way to eliminate these foreign substances.
Why Do Vaccines Fail To Protect Against Diseases?
Walene James, author of Immunization: the Reality Behind The Myth, states that the full[5] inflammatory response is necessary to create real immunity. Prior to the introduction of measles and mumps vaccines children got measles and mumps and in the great majority of cases these diseases were benign. Vaccines "trick" the body so it does not mount a complete inflammatory response to the injected virus.
Vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome SIDS
The incidence of Sudden Infant Death syndrome SIDS has grown from .55 per 1000 live births in 1953 to 12.8 per 1000 in 1992 in Olmstead County, Minnesota. The peak incidence for SIDS is age 2 to 4 months the exact time most vaccines are being given to children. 85 % of cases of SIDS occur in the first 6 months of infancy. The increase in SIDS as a percentage of total infant deaths has risen from 2.5 per 1000 in 1953 to 17.9 per 1000 in 1992. This rise in SIDS deaths has occurred during a period when nearly every childhood disease was declining due to improved sanitation and medical progress except SIDS. These deaths from SIDS did increase during a period when the number of vaccines given a child was steadily rising to 36 per child.
Dr. W. Torch was able to document 12 deaths in infants which appeared within 3½ and 19 hours of a DPT immunization. He later reported 11 new cases of SIDS death and one near miss which had occurred within 24 hours of a DPT injection. When he studied 70 cases of SIDS two thirds of these victims[6] had been vaccinated from one half day to 3 weeks prior to their deaths. None of these deaths was attributed to vaccines. Vaccines are a sacred cow and nothing against them appears in the mass media because they are so profitable to pharmaceutical firms.
There is valid reason to think that not only are vaccines worthless in preventing disease they are counterproductive because they injure the immune system permitting cancer, auto-immune diseases and SIDS to cause much disability and death.
Are Vaccines Sterile?
Dr. Robert Strecker claimed that the department of defense DOD was given $10,000,000 in 1969 to create the AIDS virus to be used as a population-reducing[7] weapon against blacks. By use of the Freedom of Information Act Dr. Strecker was able to learn that the DOD secured funds from Congress to perform studies on immune destroying agents for germ warfare.
Once produced, the vaccine was given in two locations. Smallpox vaccine containing HIV was given to 100,000,000 Africans in 1977. Over 2000 young white homosexual males in New York City were given Hepatitis B vaccine that contained HIV virus in 1978. This vaccine was given at New York City Blood Center. The Hepatitis B vaccine containing the HIV virus was also administered to homosexual males in San Francisco, Los Angeles, St.Louis, Houston and Chicago in 1978 and 1979. U.S. Public Health epidemiology studies have disclosed that these same 6 cities had the highest incidence of AIDS, Aids related Complex (ARC) and deaths rates from HIV, when compared to other U.S. cities.
When a new virus is introduced into a community. It takes 20 years for the number of cases to double. If the fabricated story that green monkey bites of pygmies led to the HIV epidemic, the alleged monkey bites in the 1940s should have produced a peak in the incidence of HIV in the 1960s at which time HIV was non existent in Africa. The World Health Organization (WHO) began a African smallpox vaccination campaign in 1977 that targeted urban population centers and avoided pygmies. If the green monkey bites of pygmies truly caused the HIV epidemic the incidence of HIV in pygmies should have been higher than in urban citizens. However, the opposite was true.
In 1954 Dr. Bernice Eddy (bacteriologist) discovered live monkey viruses in supposedly sterile inactivated polio vaccine[8] developed by Dr. Jonas Salk. This discovery was not well received at the NIH and Dr. Eddy was demoted. Later Dr. Eddy, working with Sarah Stewart, discovered SE polyoma virus. This virus was quite important because it caused cancer in every animal receiving it. Yellow fever vaccine had previously been found to contain avian (bird) leukemia virus. Later Dr. Hilleman isolated SV 40 virus from both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines. There were 40 different viruses[9] in these polio vaccines they were trying to eradicate. They were never able to get rid of these viruses ontaminating the polio vaccines. The SV 40 virus causes malignancies. It has now been identified in 43 % of cases of non-Hodgekin lymphoma[10] , 36 % of brain tumors[11] , 18 % of healthy blood samples, and 22 % of healthy semen samples, mesothiolomas and other malignancies. By the time of this discovery SV 40 had already been injected into 10,000,000 people in Salk vaccine. Gastric digestion inactivtes some of SV 40 in Sabin vaccine. However, the isolation of strains of Sabin polio vaccine from all 38 cases of Guillan Barre Syndrome[12] GBS in Brazil suggests that significant numbers of persons are able to be infected from this vaccine. All 38 of these patients had received Sabin polio vaccine months to years before the onset of GBS. The incidence of non-Hodgekin lymphoma has"mysteriouly" doubled since the 1970s.
Dr. John Martin, Professor of Pathology at the Univ. of Southern California, was employed by the Viral Oncology Branch of the Bureau of Biologics (FDA) from 1976 to 1980. While employed there he identified foreign DNA in the live polio vaccine Orimune Lederle that suggested serious vaccine contamination. He warned his supervisors about this problem and was told to discontinue his work as it was outside the scope of testing required for polio vaccine.
Later Dr. Martin learned that all eleven of the African green monkeys used to grow the Lederle polio virus Orimune had grown simian cytomegalovirus from kidney cell cultures. Lederle was aware of this viral contamination as their Cytomegaloviral Contamination Plan[13] clearly showed in 1972. The Bureau of Biologics decided not to pursue the matter so production of infected polio vaccine continued.
In 1955 Dr. Martin identified unique cell destroying viruses termed stealth viruses in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome. These viruses lacked genes that would enable the immune system to recognize them. Thus they were protected by the body's failure to develop antiviral antibodies. In March of 1995, Dr. Martin learned that some of these stealth viruses had originated from African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus of a type known to infect man.
The Lederle vaccine experience suggests that the higher-ups are not concerned about sloppy and dangerous preparation of vaccines. Animal cross infection is a huge unsolved current problem for all vaccine manufacturing. If this vaccine production sounds like an unbelievable mess to you, you are right.
The influential Club of Rome has a position paper in which they state that the world population is too large and needs to be reduced by 90 %. This means that 6 billion people must be reduced to 500 to 600 million. Obviously, creating famines and genocidal wars such as wrecked havoc in Africa, and loosing new laboratory-created diseases (HIV, Ebola, Marburg[14] , and probably West Nile virus and SARS) can help reduce the population. Other elitist groups (Trilaterals, Bildenbergers) have expressed similar concerns about excess people on planet Earth.
The company that was projected to produce the new smallpox vaccine in the U.S. was in serious trouble in England because of unsatisfactory quality of operations before setting up their facility in the U.S. Why would their performance here be any better than it was in England?
If there are important powerful groups of people that are determined to reduce the world population, what could be a more diabolically clever way to eliminate people than to inject them with a cancer-causing vaccine? The person receiving the injection would never suspect that the vaccine taken 10 to 15 years earlier had caused the cancer to appear.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
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Just because I (and many others) agree with a viewpoint, doesn't make us sheep. It is dangerous to take any stance (majority or minority) on an issue without getting the knowledge to understand the issue.
I could just as easily call you a sheep for choosing to believe that all vaccines are bad based on non-scientific sources, but as we agreed yesterday everyone is entitled to have their own opinion.
how is giving children a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer violating my rights?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
We are treading the line where we can start to justify a government program of sterilization using the justification that it's for the world's good.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
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ok i dont have any children so here goes.....
most children are given vaccinations to prevent many different diseases such as polio,diptheria,hepatitis,measles,mumps,rubella...etc.etc.
are these vaccines mandatory for all children born in the U.S.A?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Ok, I'm not a parent either, but ...
Vaccinations are required for children to attend public schools (and most private or parochial schools). These vaccines are for infectious diseases (measles, mumps, rubella) and 1 sexually transmitted disease (hep
95% of all usa born children either attend a public or parochial school.....right???
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
If you wanna say forced, then yeah. It is a public health issue ... so we don't have epidemic outbreaks of serious but preventable diseases. And no matter what JamMastaE says, the vaccines have been proven to be safe and effective.
I got the HPV vaccine 'cause I don't want to get cervical cancer. Since the only other way to not get cervical cancer is to never have sex ... I chose screaming orgasms and 3 shots in the arm.
see my post a few pages back ... the majority of women in the world don't get pap smears thus don't detect cervical cancer early. Should we just pretend that the rest of the world doesn't exist and only worry about women in the US and Europe???
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Actually here in Australia we have a central data base of pap smears and a routine reminder system, which sends a letter if a lady goes past her recommended recall time. And yes, all smears in Australia are routinely sent to the registry BUT a woman can opt out. Most don't. Our pap smear education and reminder system is actually very good here. Perhaps this should be implemented in more places around the world.
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I did mention false negatives a few pages back RockinInCanada. I agree that pap smears are a great idea but there is a statistical representation of paps that are reported as negative (normal) which are in fact not. I completely agree that women should have regular pap smears but don't be believing that just having a regular yearly pap would mean that you are guaranteed no cancer in one year, because that is incorrect. And particularly if you should luck upon a false negative, that would mean that you thought you were ok for a year when in fact you weren't. It does happen. Probably more often that people imagine. I am an advocate for the vaccine because it PREVENTS HPV to start with. Therefore eliminating the need to check what is going on to make sure you aren't infected. But I don't support forced vaccination. And I do understand peoples hesitation with the vaccination itself.
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Just a small correction, the vaccine is for 6 out of 100 strains of HPV. Just the ones that lead to cervical cancer. HPV has also been linked to testicular(?) cancer. As far as I know, only 2 strains of HPV have symptoms.
Actually, the Gardasil vaccine for HPV covers strains 6, 11, 16 and 18.
HPV 16 and 18 cause approx 70% of cervical cancers
HPV 6 and 11 cause approx 90% of genital warts.
It's the only way to live!! Even better if I'm listening to PJ in the background.
Sweet, sounds like a good vaccine, I wonder if men can get it.
It technically hasn't been approved yet in men, but I know someone got her pediatrician to give it to her son off label. Can't hurt to ask your doc about it.
Ah yes!!! Excellent choice ReleasH! Although, I must confess that TOOL is my sex music of choice. I have an easier time putting Maynard in the background than I ever could with Eddie!!
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Point taken. You know I'm not a facts and figures girl Ahnimus!
SO SOME HPV then.
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lol,. you know I'm just annal
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I figured the anal discussion would spill over into other threads eventually.
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Camden 5-28-06
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13. How are human papillomaviruses (HPVs) associated with the development of cervical cancer?
Human papillomaviruses (HPVs) are a group of more than 100 viruses. Some types of HPV cause the common warts that grow on hands and feet. Some HPVs are sexually transmitted and cause wart-like growths on the genitals, but these types do not lead to cancer. More than a dozen other sexually transmitted HPVs have been linked to cervical cancer.
HPV infection is the primary risk factor for cervical cancer. However, although HPV infection is very common, only a very small percentage of women with untreated HPV infections develop cervical cancer.
-and-
"It is important for girls to get HPV vaccine before they become sexually active. The vaccine is most effective for girls/women who get vaccinated before their first sexual contact. It does not work as well for those who were exposed to the virus before getting the vaccine.However, most women will still benefit from getting the vaccine because they will be protected against other virus types contained in the vaccine."
It irks me that testing isn't required before giving the vaccine. Women are going to think that they are protected against something when they're not. You can be infected for years and not have a single symptom.
Someone here said that the vaccine prevents HPV in the first place and that's just not true! There are 30 strains that are transmitted sexually and this vaccine protects against 4 of them. 2 of those 4 rarely cause cancer...just warts. The other 2 are given a high protection rate but only if the vaccine is given before any sexual activity whatsover. Get vaccinnated and there's still a 30% chance of getting cervical cancer. Those numbers aren't very impressive in my eyes. They're something but not enough.
-they've tested this thing for 6 years on 11,000 people (they're not even sure how long protection lasts) and it should be mandatory for millions? With a price tag of over 350.00 per person?
edit---This vaccine should really be called a Vaginal Wart Preventor because it provides more protection from those (90%) than cancer.
is this an infringement on your rights to your own health care and freedom of choice?
worth debating in my opinion.
what is the long term side effects of this drug? i saw something that they did an 11 yr. study. That's not long term enough to me.
How much money is this drug company gonna make off this? Billions and Billions.....and then a Billion more....
-Big Fish
Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National institute of health declared, "the only safe vaccine is one that is never used."
Cowpox vaccine was believed able to immunize people against smallpox. At the time this vaccine was introduced, there was already a decline in the number of cases of smallpox. Japan introduced compulsory vaccination in 1872. In 1892 there were 165,774 cases of smallpox with 29,979 deaths despite the vaccination program. A stringent compulsory smallpox vaccine program, which prosecuted those refusing the vaccine, was instituted in England in 1867. Within 4 years 97.5 % of persons between 2 and 50 had been vaccinated. The following year England experienced the worst smallpox epidemic[1] in its history with 44,840 deaths. Between 1871 and 1880 the incidence of smallpox escalated from 28 to 46 per 100,000. The smallpox vaccine does not work.
Much of the success attributed to vaccination programs may actually have been due to improvement in public health related to water quality and sanitation, less crowded living conditions, better nutrition, and higher standards of living. Typically the incidence of a disease was clearly declining before the vaccine for that disease was introduced. In England the incidence of polio had decreased by 82 % before the polio vaccine was introduced in 1956.
In the early 1900s an astute Indiana physician, Dr. W.B. Clarke, stated "Cancer was practically unknown until compulsory vaccination with cowpox vaccine began to be introduced. I have had to deal with two hundred cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an un-vaccinated [2] person."
There is a widely held belief that vaccines should not be criticized because the public might refuse to take them. This is valid only if the benefits exceed the known risks of the vaccines.
Do Vaccines Actually Prevent Disease?
This important question does not appear to have ever been adequately studied. Vaccines are enormously profitable for drug companies and recent legislation in the U.S. has exempted lawsuits against pharmaceutical firms in the event of adverse reactions to vaccines which are very common. In 1975 Germany stopped requiring pertussis (whooping cough) vaccination. Today less than 10 % of German children are vaccinated against pertussis. The number of cases of pertussis has steadily decreased[3] even though far fewer children are receiving pertussis vaccine.
Measles outbreaks have occurred in schools with vaccination rates over 98 % in all parts of the U.S. including areas that had reported no cases of measles for years. As measles immunization rates rise to high levels measles becomes a disease seen only in vaccinated persons. An outbreak of measles occurred in a school where 100 % of the children had been vaccinated. Measles mortality rates had declined by 97 % in England before measles vaccination was instituted.
In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic[4] in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months.
After institution of diphtheria vaccination in England and Wales in 1894 the number of deaths from diphtheria rose by 20 % in the subsequent 15 years. Germany had compulsory vaccination in 1939. The rate of diphtheria spiraled to 150,000 cases that year whereas, Norway which did not have compulsory vaccination, had only 50 cases of diphtheria the same year.
The continued presence of these infectious diseases in children who have received vaccines proves that life long immunity which follows natural infection does not occur in persons receiving vaccines. The injection process places the viral particles into the blood without providing any clear way to eliminate these foreign substances.
Why Do Vaccines Fail To Protect Against Diseases?
Walene James, author of Immunization: the Reality Behind The Myth, states that the full[5] inflammatory response is necessary to create real immunity. Prior to the introduction of measles and mumps vaccines children got measles and mumps and in the great majority of cases these diseases were benign. Vaccines "trick" the body so it does not mount a complete inflammatory response to the injected virus.
Vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome SIDS
The incidence of Sudden Infant Death syndrome SIDS has grown from .55 per 1000 live births in 1953 to 12.8 per 1000 in 1992 in Olmstead County, Minnesota. The peak incidence for SIDS is age 2 to 4 months the exact time most vaccines are being given to children. 85 % of cases of SIDS occur in the first 6 months of infancy. The increase in SIDS as a percentage of total infant deaths has risen from 2.5 per 1000 in 1953 to 17.9 per 1000 in 1992. This rise in SIDS deaths has occurred during a period when nearly every childhood disease was declining due to improved sanitation and medical progress except SIDS. These deaths from SIDS did increase during a period when the number of vaccines given a child was steadily rising to 36 per child.
Dr. W. Torch was able to document 12 deaths in infants which appeared within 3½ and 19 hours of a DPT immunization. He later reported 11 new cases of SIDS death and one near miss which had occurred within 24 hours of a DPT injection. When he studied 70 cases of SIDS two thirds of these victims[6] had been vaccinated from one half day to 3 weeks prior to their deaths. None of these deaths was attributed to vaccines. Vaccines are a sacred cow and nothing against them appears in the mass media because they are so profitable to pharmaceutical firms.
There is valid reason to think that not only are vaccines worthless in preventing disease they are counterproductive because they injure the immune system permitting cancer, auto-immune diseases and SIDS to cause much disability and death.
Are Vaccines Sterile?
Dr. Robert Strecker claimed that the department of defense DOD was given $10,000,000 in 1969 to create the AIDS virus to be used as a population-reducing[7] weapon against blacks. By use of the Freedom of Information Act Dr. Strecker was able to learn that the DOD secured funds from Congress to perform studies on immune destroying agents for germ warfare.
Once produced, the vaccine was given in two locations. Smallpox vaccine containing HIV was given to 100,000,000 Africans in 1977. Over 2000 young white homosexual males in New York City were given Hepatitis B vaccine that contained HIV virus in 1978. This vaccine was given at New York City Blood Center. The Hepatitis B vaccine containing the HIV virus was also administered to homosexual males in San Francisco, Los Angeles, St.Louis, Houston and Chicago in 1978 and 1979. U.S. Public Health epidemiology studies have disclosed that these same 6 cities had the highest incidence of AIDS, Aids related Complex (ARC) and deaths rates from HIV, when compared to other U.S. cities.
When a new virus is introduced into a community. It takes 20 years for the number of cases to double. If the fabricated story that green monkey bites of pygmies led to the HIV epidemic, the alleged monkey bites in the 1940s should have produced a peak in the incidence of HIV in the 1960s at which time HIV was non existent in Africa. The World Health Organization (WHO) began a African smallpox vaccination campaign in 1977 that targeted urban population centers and avoided pygmies. If the green monkey bites of pygmies truly caused the HIV epidemic the incidence of HIV in pygmies should have been higher than in urban citizens. However, the opposite was true.
In 1954 Dr. Bernice Eddy (bacteriologist) discovered live monkey viruses in supposedly sterile inactivated polio vaccine[8] developed by Dr. Jonas Salk. This discovery was not well received at the NIH and Dr. Eddy was demoted. Later Dr. Eddy, working with Sarah Stewart, discovered SE polyoma virus. This virus was quite important because it caused cancer in every animal receiving it. Yellow fever vaccine had previously been found to contain avian (bird) leukemia virus. Later Dr. Hilleman isolated SV 40 virus from both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines. There were 40 different viruses[9] in these polio vaccines they were trying to eradicate. They were never able to get rid of these viruses ontaminating the polio vaccines. The SV 40 virus causes malignancies. It has now been identified in 43 % of cases of non-Hodgekin lymphoma[10] , 36 % of brain tumors[11] , 18 % of healthy blood samples, and 22 % of healthy semen samples, mesothiolomas and other malignancies. By the time of this discovery SV 40 had already been injected into 10,000,000 people in Salk vaccine. Gastric digestion inactivtes some of SV 40 in Sabin vaccine. However, the isolation of strains of Sabin polio vaccine from all 38 cases of Guillan Barre Syndrome[12] GBS in Brazil suggests that significant numbers of persons are able to be infected from this vaccine. All 38 of these patients had received Sabin polio vaccine months to years before the onset of GBS. The incidence of non-Hodgekin lymphoma has"mysteriouly" doubled since the 1970s.
Dr. John Martin, Professor of Pathology at the Univ. of Southern California, was employed by the Viral Oncology Branch of the Bureau of Biologics (FDA) from 1976 to 1980. While employed there he identified foreign DNA in the live polio vaccine Orimune Lederle that suggested serious vaccine contamination. He warned his supervisors about this problem and was told to discontinue his work as it was outside the scope of testing required for polio vaccine.
Later Dr. Martin learned that all eleven of the African green monkeys used to grow the Lederle polio virus Orimune had grown simian cytomegalovirus from kidney cell cultures. Lederle was aware of this viral contamination as their Cytomegaloviral Contamination Plan[13] clearly showed in 1972. The Bureau of Biologics decided not to pursue the matter so production of infected polio vaccine continued.
In 1955 Dr. Martin identified unique cell destroying viruses termed stealth viruses in patients with chronic fatigue syndrome. These viruses lacked genes that would enable the immune system to recognize them. Thus they were protected by the body's failure to develop antiviral antibodies. In March of 1995, Dr. Martin learned that some of these stealth viruses had originated from African green monkey simian cytomegalovirus of a type known to infect man.
The Lederle vaccine experience suggests that the higher-ups are not concerned about sloppy and dangerous preparation of vaccines. Animal cross infection is a huge unsolved current problem for all vaccine manufacturing. If this vaccine production sounds like an unbelievable mess to you, you are right.
The influential Club of Rome has a position paper in which they state that the world population is too large and needs to be reduced by 90 %. This means that 6 billion people must be reduced to 500 to 600 million. Obviously, creating famines and genocidal wars such as wrecked havoc in Africa, and loosing new laboratory-created diseases (HIV, Ebola, Marburg[14] , and probably West Nile virus and SARS) can help reduce the population. Other elitist groups (Trilaterals, Bildenbergers) have expressed similar concerns about excess people on planet Earth.
The company that was projected to produce the new smallpox vaccine in the U.S. was in serious trouble in England because of unsatisfactory quality of operations before setting up their facility in the U.S. Why would their performance here be any better than it was in England?
If there are important powerful groups of people that are determined to reduce the world population, what could be a more diabolically clever way to eliminate people than to inject them with a cancer-causing vaccine? The person receiving the injection would never suspect that the vaccine taken 10 to 15 years earlier had caused the cancer to appear.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata