New Gop Ad

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Hope&Anger wrote:
    Yeah, and most people in major cities -- NYC, LA, SF, Chicago -- think Bush's head is up his ass.


    why? the risk of terror attacks will happen in those cities you mentioned before anywhere else.
  • Hope&Anger
    Hope&Anger Posts: 260
    jlew24asu wrote:
    why? the risk of terror attacks will happen in those cities you mentioned before anywhere else.
    Yes, you're right -- those are the places where terrorism is most likely to happen and also the places where Republicans (and what passes for their anti-terrorism strategies) are least likely to win elections.

    The people who are most afraid of terrorism in this country -- and most likely to support Bush and respond to these scare tactics -- live in places least likely to be struck by terrorists. And that's a really weird disconnect.
    "Things will just get better and better even though it
    doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
    idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
    Hope! Hope is the underdog!"

    -- EV, Live at the Showbox
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    That is a pretty crappy ad. If fighting terrorism is all they have to offer, that's pretty sad. Because they suck at it.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,880
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That is a pretty crappy ad. If fighting terrorism is all they have to offer, that's pretty sad. Because they suck at it.


    hahaha now that is a funny post.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • not4u
    not4u Posts: 512
    i said it before, i'll say it again...

    vote republican or die!!!

    and it just might be the republicans that kill you.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    not4u wrote:
    i said it before, i'll say it again...

    vote republican or die!!!

    and it just might be the republicans that kill you.

    I don't buy into that, a guy said to me once "Give me a smoke or your dead!" at first I was a bit scared, but then I called his bluff. I didn't give him a smoke and I survived.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    perfect...... our country has given up on bravery, given up on civil liberties, given up on human rights, given up on the environment, and is so overcome with fear that it is willing to devolve into a terrorist dictatorship in order to feel safer. those are facts. and because i am upset by these facts i am being called angry and referred to anger management classes. perhaps those of you so afraid of getting blown up that you are willing to disgrace everything our country has fought for throughout its history need a class as well. by being so terrified that you want this nation to give up on all of its principals you disgrace everyone that has ever given their lives for freedom. just because im not curled up in the fetal position waiting for george bush to protect me from the boogie man does not mean that i am unreasonably angry. it makes me normal. go ahead, vote for the fear mongers, go ahead and live in fear....are you people really defending this tactic? defending terrorism??? unreal!!!
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Hope&Anger wrote:
    Yeah, and most people in major cities -- NYC, LA, SF, Chicago -- think Bush's head is up his ass.



    exactly. but those out on the farm, are the ones voting him in. ;) AND please forgive me for that...b/c that is SUCH a generalization....and i know it's not entirely true for all, but yea, middle america overall is far more supportive, or was anyway, of bush...than major cities..so i don't feel too bad[/i]. besides, sometimes i can't resist.


    in regards to the ad...yea...whatever. it plays to the same crowd, the same fears...if people still go for it yet again.....it's a hopeless situation then and it doesn't matter what kinda ads they put out. fool us once, shame on you....fool us twice, shame on us. i wasn't fooled the first time, i hope those who were finally have woken up.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • Scratchin a Letter
    Scratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    robbie wrote:
    perfect...... our country has given up on bravery, given up on civil liberties, given up on human rights, given up on the environment, and is so overcome with fear that it is willing to devolve into a terrorist dictatorship in order to feel safer. those are facts. and because i am upset by these facts i am being called angry and referred to anger management classes. perhaps those of you so afraid of getting blown up that you are willing to disgrace everything our country has fought for throughout its history need a class as well. by being so terrified that you want this nation to give up on all of its principals you disgrace everyone that has ever given their lives for freedom. just because im not curled up in the fetal position waiting for george bush to protect me from the boogie man does not mean that i am unreasonably angry. it makes me normal. go ahead, vote for the fear mongers, go ahead and live in fear....are you people really defending this tactic? defending terrorism??? unreal!!!
    that's a beautiful post there man.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    robbie wrote:
    perfect...... our country has given up on bravery, given up on civil liberties, given up on human rights, given up on the environment, and is so overcome with fear that it is willing to devolve into a terrorist dictatorship in order to feel safer. those are facts.

    those are not facts. that is your opinion. opinions arent facts. what is a fact, is that you need anger management theropy. take deep breaths calm the fuck down.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    I think the big issue here is that many people will vote Republican because of the ad.

    The ad is not the problem.....the fact that people base their vote on the ad is the really problem.

    In this case, we gotta hate the player (the dumb voter), and not the game (the ad).

    Politics won't change before the citizenry mandates such a change.
  • Truthmonger
    Truthmonger Posts: 559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    those are not facts. that is your opinion. opinions arent facts. what is a fact, is that you need anger management theropy. take deep breaths calm the fuck down.

    Actually, those pretty much are the facts......
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    robbie wrote:
    perfect...... our country has given up on bravery, given up on civil liberties, given up on human rights, given up on the environment, and is so overcome with fear that it is willing to devolve into a terrorist dictatorship in order to feel safer. those are facts. and because i am upset by these facts i am being called angry and referred to anger management classes. perhaps those of you so afraid of getting blown up that you are willing to disgrace everything our country has fought for throughout its history need a class as well. by being so terrified that you want this nation to give up on all of its principals you disgrace everyone that has ever given their lives for freedom. just because im not curled up in the fetal position waiting for george bush to protect me from the boogie man does not mean that i am unreasonably angry. it makes me normal. go ahead, vote for the fear mongers, go ahead and live in fear....are you people really defending this tactic? defending terrorism??? unreal!!!

    Have you looked into volunteering to help a local democrat to get votes?...use that passion to right the wrongs!

    In the words of RATM... "Your Anger Is A Gift"
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Truthmonger wrote:
    Actually, those pretty much are the facts......


    sorry dude those are opinions. no matter how strongly you believe them.
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Have you looked into volunteering to help a local democrat to get votes?...use that passion to right the wrongs!

    In the words of RATM... "Your Anger Is A Gift"


    actually, i am doing more than that.... I have organized a Voter Celebration Party here in Olympia, featuring Live music from 2 bands that are donating their time, a pre and between sets drum and acoustic instrument jam session open to everyone that brings an instrument, and free giveaways all night long from local businesses that have donated hundreds of dollars to this event. there will also be a stand up comic performing.... and the event is FREE to all registered voters. anyone in the western Washington area that considers yourself or your band to be extremely talented and want to perform for free, we can make time for you......Saturday November 4th @ the Clipper 8:00 Olympia washington.......Im still waiting on a response from the 10c on donating items for 10c members attending this event...... im not telling people HOW to vote... I AM DEFENATELY NOT THREATENING PEOPLE WITH TERRORIST ATTACKS IF THEY DO NOT VOTE MY WAY!!!!!!!!! but yes, I am angry enough to do something about it.
  • Scratchin a Letter
    Scratchin a Letter Posts: 2,303
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry dude those are opinions. no matter how strongly you believe them.
    are you in some way trying to ironically imply that bush has does good things for civil liberties? that patriot act bullshite was the most pathetic attempt at creating an excuse to tap phonelines and encopurage everyone to spy on their neighbours. human rights: camp gitmo, say no more. on the environmental front, all bush has done is deny that global warming exists and cut up forests and parks so he can drill for oil.

    if you actually think bush is doing good things for the environment then you are fucking stupid.
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry dude those are opinions. no matter how strongly you believe them.



    wrong. they are facts.
  • Truthmonger
    Truthmonger Posts: 559
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry dude those are opinions. no matter how strongly you believe them.

    Really ? See, some things are hard to quantify, like the idea of America abandoning bravery (as Robbie said). Frankly, I'd like to see the empirical evidence on that one - I don't really see it.

    But other things are not so hard to verify. And on these things, he is abosutely correct. If you don't think you have less liberty than before, then you are delusional. Of course you do !! In fact, Americans are losing liberty by the month. Been to an airport lately ? Had a debate lately about your phone being tapped or your computer being monitored ? Wake up bud. And its all being couched in terms of "protecting your freedoms" !! HA. What freedoms ? You want to know about freedom in the U.S. ?.....try being Maher Arar, who has been cleared by every court/investigative body in the world, and who still can't get his name wiped off the no-fly list of the U.S.. Its embarrassing foir the U.S. gov't..

    What about human rights ? The U.S. has made a mockery of human rights and the rule of law. Through its convenient legal constructs, it has absolutely destryoed the very things it claims to be fighting for. The U.S. is a joke in this dept.. Dude, are you awake for this shit, or what ? Or are you buying the shit that Cheney slings about Iraq going "remarkably well" ? America and integrity have now become mutually exclusive terms - and that's putting it politely.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    robbie wrote:
    wrong. they are facts.


    I cant debate with 8 year olds
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Truthmonger wrote:
    Really ? See, some things are hard to quantify, like the idea of America abandoning bravery (as Robbie said). Frankly, I'd like to see the empirical evidence on that one - I don't really see it.

    But other things are not so hard to verify. And on these things, he is abosutely correct. If you don't think you have less liberty than before, then you are delusional. Of course you do !! In fact, Americans are losing liberty by the month. Been to an airport lately ? Had a debate lately about your phone being tapped or your computer being monitored ? Wake up bud. And its all being couched in terms of "protecting your freedoms" !! HA. What freedoms ? You want to know about freedom in the U.S. ?.....try being Maher Arar, who has been cleared by every court/investigative body in the world, and who still can't get his name wiped off the no-fly list of the U.S.. Its embarrassing foir the U.S. gov't..

    .

    I am as free today as the day I was born.

    nothing robbie said is fact. its all opinion.

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