But, as many have said here, that doesn't matter. It's worse to inconvenience someone.
The reply you have made is hateful and judgmental. Saying what you have, removes the humanity from the women who go through this, and so you
have personally, just killed all of them. All for the inconvenience of having to think and explore with some depth, more actually, what reasons may exist.
How's that feel, murderer? Enjoy your blood lust.
The reply you have made is hateful and judgmental. Saying what you have, removes the humanity from the women who go through this, and so you
have personally, just killed all of them. All for the inconvenience of having to think and explore with some depth, more actually, what reasons may exist.
How's that feel, murderer? Enjoy your blood lust.
A quick search on the CDC website should prove that for you...
Very interesting. a 'quick search' on the cdc site you have provided shows one thing: that the source you cite references studies from the 70s, 80s and early 90s, just like the sources I cited had.
What's interesting, though, is when I posted those "old" studies you said:
It's literally accurate that there were studies done a long time ago that indicated some negative effects of abortion. That's a fact. Just like there were studies done a long time ago that indicated that the world is flat.
There we have it. It is clear that this is about how these studies, facts and data are being interpreted, which is, again, about the agenda of the one doing the interpretation. That is not about the facts and data, themselves, which are neutral, truthful, and agenda-free.
For example: when I use a study from the seventies to make a point, you see fit to bring up a flat-earth slant.
And at the same time, you quote this from the cdc site: ""Fewer than one woman in 100 develops a major complication from induced abortion, and fewer than one in 100,000 dies. The risk of morbidity and mortality from legal abortion is directly related to gestational age at the time of abortion—the earlier the gestation, the safer the procedure.”
..while this very quote references a 1970s article.... (complications from legally induced abortions: a review, 1979)
You can no longer deny personal agenda, clinging to the illusion of mythbusting and the respectable refuting of "medical misinformation".
It's a sham to imagine any of this is as being beyond personal agenda and individual bias. especially when the personal agendas and manipulation of the data are so clear.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
And yet there are numerous studies and numerous complications such as the following that have not been addressed or effectively refuted in this thread :
-A teenage girl is 10 times more likely to attempt suicide if she has had an abortion in the last six months.
-A survey of post-abortive women found that:
28% attempted suicide
31% experienced suicidal feelings
60% commented that the decision to abort made their lives worse
94% regretted the decision to abort
-After abortion, 24% of women experience complications with later pregnancies. These include excessive bleeding, premature delivery, cervical incompetence or rupture of the placenta.
-Women who abort are nearly four times more likely to start abusing alcohol or drugs.
....."New Study Confirms Link Between Abortion and Substance Abuse," The Post Abortion Review, Vol. 1 No. 3, Fall 1993.
-Tubal (ectopic) pregnancies increase by 30% after one abortion, and by 160% after 2 or more abortions.
-The risk of placenta previa, which produces extremely severe, life-threatening bleeding during future pregnancies, is increased by 600% after an abortion.
-Approximately 10% of women undergoing elective abortion will suffer immediate complications. The most common complications that can occur at the time of an abortion are:
perforation of the uterus
excessive bleeding
infection
embolism
retained tissue
hemorrhage
cervical injury
endotoxic shock
"boggy" uterus
failure to recognize an ectopic pregnancy
it's clear that this entire debate is about personal opinion of the facts, and is therefore arbitrary and/or subjective. I therefore encourage all women to look at the facts for themselves, and to interpret said facts, so that they accurately reflect her, her life, her values and her intents and purposes given the situation. Those who present the facts within each individual slant are not presenting the objective truth to you...they are presenting their own subjective view of it, which will represent the context that individual or group is representing. And when someone tells you that "this or that" is proven, or otherwise uses authority or 'facts' or 'science' to tell you what you feel, or believe is not authentic, true or realistic, or that it's not 'normal' or whatever....again, that is about agenda, about politics and about power plays and abuse of power. Beware, as that individual/group does not have your best interests at heart. As women, we can trust our selves, our lives, our contexts and our personal beliefs to lead us to what is right for us. We can find what works for and represents our personal perspectives, and let what does not fit fall away.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
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Confuses the fact that in 100% of abortions someone dies.
But, as many have said here, that doesn't matter. It's worse to inconvenience someone.
The reply you have made is hateful and judgmental. Saying what you have, removes the humanity from the women who go through this, and so you
have personally, just killed all of them. All for the inconvenience of having to think and explore with some depth, more actually, what reasons may exist.
How's that feel, murderer? Enjoy your blood lust.
Um Yea.
Very interesting. a 'quick search' on the cdc site you have provided shows one thing: that the source you cite references studies from the 70s, 80s and early 90s, just like the sources I cited had.
What's interesting, though, is when I posted those "old" studies you said:
There we have it. It is clear that this is about how these studies, facts and data are being interpreted, which is, again, about the agenda of the one doing the interpretation. That is not about the facts and data, themselves, which are neutral, truthful, and agenda-free.
For example: when I use a study from the seventies to make a point, you see fit to bring up a flat-earth slant.
And at the same time, you quote this from the cdc site: ""Fewer than one woman in 100 develops a major complication from induced abortion, and fewer than one in 100,000 dies. The risk of morbidity and mortality from legal abortion is directly related to gestational age at the time of abortion—the earlier the gestation, the safer the procedure.”
..while this very quote references a 1970s article.... (complications from legally induced abortions: a review, 1979)
You can no longer deny personal agenda, clinging to the illusion of mythbusting and the respectable refuting of "medical misinformation".
It's a sham to imagine any of this is as being beyond personal agenda and individual bias. especially when the personal agendas and manipulation of the data are so clear.
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-A teenage girl is 10 times more likely to attempt suicide if she has had an abortion in the last six months.
-A survey of post-abortive women found that:
28% attempted suicide
31% experienced suicidal feelings
60% commented that the decision to abort made their lives worse
94% regretted the decision to abort
-After abortion, 24% of women experience complications with later pregnancies. These include excessive bleeding, premature delivery, cervical incompetence or rupture of the placenta.
-Women who abort are nearly four times more likely to start abusing alcohol or drugs.
....."New Study Confirms Link Between Abortion and Substance Abuse," The Post Abortion Review, Vol. 1 No. 3, Fall 1993.
-Tubal (ectopic) pregnancies increase by 30% after one abortion, and by 160% after 2 or more abortions.
-The risk of placenta previa, which produces extremely severe, life-threatening bleeding during future pregnancies, is increased by 600% after an abortion.
-Approximately 10% of women undergoing elective abortion will suffer immediate complications. The most common complications that can occur at the time of an abortion are:
perforation of the uterus
excessive bleeding
infection
embolism
retained tissue
hemorrhage
cervical injury
endotoxic shock
"boggy" uterus
failure to recognize an ectopic pregnancy
it's clear that this entire debate is about personal opinion of the facts, and is therefore arbitrary and/or subjective. I therefore encourage all women to look at the facts for themselves, and to interpret said facts, so that they accurately reflect her, her life, her values and her intents and purposes given the situation. Those who present the facts within each individual slant are not presenting the objective truth to you...they are presenting their own subjective view of it, which will represent the context that individual or group is representing. And when someone tells you that "this or that" is proven, or otherwise uses authority or 'facts' or 'science' to tell you what you feel, or believe is not authentic, true or realistic, or that it's not 'normal' or whatever....again, that is about agenda, about politics and about power plays and abuse of power. Beware, as that individual/group does not have your best interests at heart. As women, we can trust our selves, our lives, our contexts and our personal beliefs to lead us to what is right for us. We can find what works for and represents our personal perspectives, and let what does not fit fall away.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!