There is no point in delaying the debate now. The deal was already almost finished before they even met with McCain and Obama. Clearly they weren't needed in Washington. I guess we're all supposed to think that McCain flying over there got the deal done or something. Oy.
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i have a question, at my job i have many people who call me with problems. i am a social worker. i have clients who are homeless living on teh street, i also hav eclients calling me becuase they have a flu. which client do you think i am will set aside other work that i have to do. it has nothing to do about not being able to multi-task it is about deciding what issue is more important and putting yoru effort in that direct. everyone at their jobs have priorities that they deem to be more important than other aspects. that does not make them i bad worker in fact it makes them a good worker. does anyone agree with me?
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Well it seems that the debate will be held tomorrow night. An agreement on a bail out plan has been reached by Congressional Democrats and Republicans. No excuse now for McCain to postpone the debate.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Well it seems that the debate will be held tomorrow night. An agreement on a bail out plan has been reached by Congressional Democrats and Republicans. No excuse now for McCain to postpone the debate.
we'll see how it plays ... I still think the House Republicans need some convincing ... they may drag out the FINAL yes for a day or two ...
conspiracy theorists will say they are helping McCain out by not agreeing and delaying final resolution ... but, I've heard two or three of these guys that were consistantly against any bail out ...
Not sure if their votes are needed, but, I think folks wanted a LARGE majority before making this final.
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
i have a question, at my job i have many people who call me with problems. i am a social worker. i have clients who are homeless living on teh street, i also hav eclients calling me becuase they have a flu. which client do you think i am will set aside other work that i have to do. it has nothing to do about not being able to multi-task it is about deciding what issue is more important and putting yoru effort in that direct. everyone at their jobs have priorities that they deem to be more important than other aspects. that does not make them i bad worker in fact it makes them a good worker. does anyone agree with me?
I am sure you are a great social worker and work hard at it. But I'm afraid you have no idea how things work in warshington, and it clearly shows from your posts. And even if McCain wanted to be in D.C., there's no reason to suspend his campaign. He has a huge staff, and why the hell shouldn't Palin be able to run it for a week? What was she chosen for anyway?
we'll see how it plays ... I still think the House Republicans need some convincing ... they may drag out the FINAL yes for a day or two ...
conspiracy theorists will say they are helping McCain out by not agreeing and delaying final resolution ... but, I've heard two or three of these guys that were consistantly against any bail out ...
Not sure if their votes are needed, but, I think folks wanted a LARGE majority before making this final.
Well from the article I read there seems to be a general consensus that the majority of Republicans in Congress are on board will the proposal. It will be presented to Treasury Sec. Paulson this afternoon. I don't think that the majority of Republican would drag their feet on this because if the economy does crash because of their delay it would spell certain doom for them in the elections. I'm also pretty sure that they would not have made an announcement if they weren't sure that the House and Senate would unanimously pass this bill.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
What is McCain going to do? Sounds to me he is trying to skip out on the debate so he won't have to face the tough questions.
McCain does not even belong to either of the committees who are involved in the negotiations.
Now Lindsay Graham is saying that we should cancel the VP debate. When are the Republicans aka party of deregulation going to stand up and answer the tough questions?
hilarious. i was actually going to post a snarky comment about being able to walk and chew gum at the same time (as i chew some hubba bubba given to me by a co-worker).
if that is correct and Obama has brought 5 economic bills during his senate career don't you think that he should be there then also?
Obama is very much involved in this issue in case you didn't notice and he has been speaking about this shit alot longer than McCain who's only seemed to take a dip in this pool in the last 26 hours; coincidentally the precise time his polls began to slide.
Obama has led the way in making sure that this 3 PAGE BILL be modified and revised so that it has the necessary provisions placed on it to meet his and the Democrats approval. Obama is making sure that the American people aren't going to get their asses screwed on this bailout.
John McCain has done neither and at this very moment is probably sitting on some toilet on Captial Hill trying to wrap his head around this whole thing.
Obama is leading on this issue without the grandstanding of John McCain. Obama isn't claiming to be jumping on his horse to come save the day and he sure as fuck isn't taking a break from the campaign.
It's called multi tasking
It's called Leadership
None of which that numb nut geezer McCain has remotley shown in regards to the economy.
Lawmakers Report Agreement on Bailout
<>By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, AP
posted: 35 MINUTES AGO
WASHINGTON (Sept. 25) - Warned of a possible financial panic, key Republicans and Democrats reported agreement in principle Thursday on a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry and said they would present it to the Bush administration in hopes of a vote within days. ...
Emerging from a two-hour negotiating session, Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman said, "We are very confident that we can act expeditiously."
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
As John McCain returned to Capitol Hill Thursday to support the passage of a package to address the nation’s financial crisis, Democrats spent the morning gleefully directing reporters to a statement from the Republican nominee Tuesday – three days after the bailout bill was introduced – that he had not read the text of the administration’s proposal.
"I have not had a chance to see it in writing. I have to examine it,” he told a Cleveland television station.
Lawmakers Report Agreement on Bailout
<>By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, AP
posted: 35 MINUTES AGO
WASHINGTON (Sept. 25) - Warned of a possible financial panic, key Republicans and Democrats reported agreement in principle Thursday on a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry and said they would present it to the Bush administration in hopes of a vote within days. ...
Emerging from a two-hour negotiating session, Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman said, "We are very confident that we can act expeditiously."
it's NOT a done deal ... supposedly, house minority leader Boener is pimping a plan that the conservative house republicans would like considered. Hold tight ...
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
Obama is very much involved in this issue in case you didn't notice and he has been speaking about this shit alot longer than McCain who's only seemed to take a dip in this pool in the last 26 hours; coincidentally the precise time his polls began to slide.
Obama has led the way in making sure that this 3 PAGE BILL be modified and revised so that it has the necessary provisions placed on it to meet his and the Democrats approval. Obama is making sure that the American people aren't going to get their asses screwed on this bailout.
John McCain has done neither and at this very moment is probably sitting on some toilet on Captial Hill trying to wrap his head around this whole thing.
Obama is leading on this issue without the grandstanding of John McCain. Obama isn't claiming to be jumping on his horse to come save the day and he sure as fuck isn't taking a break from the campaign.
It's called multi tasking
It's called Leadership
None of which that numb nut geezer McCain has remotley shown in regards to the economy.
what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
it's NOT a done deal ... supposedly, house minority leader Boener is pimping a plan that the conservative house republicans would like considered. Hold tight ...
Rep. Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, seems to be on board with the proposal.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I'd really like it if instead of the idiots that were overseeing these committees while the shit hit the fan, we got some outside experts to help develop a plan.
I'm all for people cleaning up their own mess, but I don't trust them.
what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.
You never answered my question from the previous page?
Rep. Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, seems to be on board with the proposal.
Rep Richard Shelby, who is actually on the banking committee ... was just blustering how he does not agree with it, how he has e-mails from 5 leading economists that say it won't work, etc etc ...
"You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
You never answered my question from the previous page?
sorry i did not see that question. i agree with you that suspending the campaign was stupid and i wrote that before. i agree that palin should stand up and i don't liek her as a VP. i actually don't like both Obama and mcCain my point is that i think the 2 peopel who have a chance of being president should be working with teh senate. did i miss any part, if i did i am sorry and will go read your post agian.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Rep Richard Shelby, who is actually on the banking committee ... was just blustering how he does not agree with it, how he has e-mails from 5 leading economists that say it won't work, etc etc ...
I'm sure that there are going to be Dems and Reps who come out against it but I don't think they would have made the announcement that they have a plan if they didn't already make sure that it would pass with ease.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.
I'll ask once again.
TO DO WHAT?
Obama and McCain have already agreed upon the provisions. The statement has been passed on to both parties and agreement has now been reached by both Republicans and Democrats. All that is left to do now is get Bush to approve it and then vote on it.
Over at Politico, they report that Barney Frank minced few words, saying: "Nobody mentioned him. The man's irrelevant to the whole process. No Republican mentioned his name. I'm the only one who raised his name. They winced when I did." Frank also compared McCain to a cartoon superhero:
"He's been irrelevant to the process. He remains to be," said Frank. "I was afraid that his dropping in here, like Andy Kaufman's Mighty Mouse -- 'here I am to save the day' -- I thought that would slow things down. I didn't see any sign of our Republican colleagues paying any attention to him whatsoever."
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Obama and McCain have already agreed upon the provisions. The statement has been passed on to both parties and agreement has now been reached by both Republicans and Democrats. All that is left to do now is get Bush to approve it and then vote on it.
What can either Obama and McCain do further?
do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.
Well, we know that one of the 2 people has been completely irrelevant in the process.
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Comments
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Q. How many bills Obama has brough fourth during his term as US Senator?
A. FIVE
Q. Out of the 5 bills brought forth by Senator Obama, how many are related in part to these very issues regarding the economy.
A. FOUR
Q. Is John McCain really needed in Washington for his economic expertise?
A. NO
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
if that is correct and Obama has brought 5 economic bills during his senate career don't you think that he should be there then also?
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
we'll see how it plays ... I still think the House Republicans need some convincing ... they may drag out the FINAL yes for a day or two ...
conspiracy theorists will say they are helping McCain out by not agreeing and delaying final resolution ... but, I've heard two or three of these guys that were consistantly against any bail out ...
Not sure if their votes are needed, but, I think folks wanted a LARGE majority before making this final.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I am sure you are a great social worker and work hard at it. But I'm afraid you have no idea how things work in warshington, and it clearly shows from your posts. And even if McCain wanted to be in D.C., there's no reason to suspend his campaign. He has a huge staff, and why the hell shouldn't Palin be able to run it for a week? What was she chosen for anyway?
Well from the article I read there seems to be a general consensus that the majority of Republicans in Congress are on board will the proposal. It will be presented to Treasury Sec. Paulson this afternoon. I don't think that the majority of Republican would drag their feet on this because if the economy does crash because of their delay it would spell certain doom for them in the elections. I'm also pretty sure that they would not have made an announcement if they weren't sure that the House and Senate would unanimously pass this bill.
sums things up nicely....
McCain does not even belong to either of the committees who are involved in the negotiations.
Now Lindsay Graham is saying that we should cancel the VP debate. When are the Republicans aka party of deregulation going to stand up and answer the tough questions?
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/24/mccain-camp-to-propose-postponing-vp-debate/
McCain has been hitting the panic button for 2 weeks now.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
hilarious. i was actually going to post a snarky comment about being able to walk and chew gum at the same time (as i chew some hubba bubba given to me by a co-worker).
Obama is very much involved in this issue in case you didn't notice and he has been speaking about this shit alot longer than McCain who's only seemed to take a dip in this pool in the last 26 hours; coincidentally the precise time his polls began to slide.
Obama has led the way in making sure that this 3 PAGE BILL be modified and revised so that it has the necessary provisions placed on it to meet his and the Democrats approval. Obama is making sure that the American people aren't going to get their asses screwed on this bailout.
John McCain has done neither and at this very moment is probably sitting on some toilet on Captial Hill trying to wrap his head around this whole thing.
Obama is leading on this issue without the grandstanding of John McCain. Obama isn't claiming to be jumping on his horse to come save the day and he sure as fuck isn't taking a break from the campaign.
It's called multi tasking
It's called Leadership
None of which that numb nut geezer McCain has remotley shown in regards to the economy.
Yea, and apparently people want him to lead????!!!!
http://news.aol.com/article/lawmakers-report-agreement-on-bailout/187754
Lawmakers Report Agreement on Bailout
<>By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, AP
posted: 35 MINUTES AGO
WASHINGTON (Sept. 25) - Warned of a possible financial panic, key Republicans and Democrats reported agreement in principle Thursday on a $700 billion bailout of the financial industry and said they would present it to the Bush administration in hopes of a vote within days. ...
Emerging from a two-hour negotiating session, Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., the Banking Committee chairman said, "We are very confident that we can act expeditiously."
As John McCain returned to Capitol Hill Thursday to support the passage of a package to address the nation’s financial crisis, Democrats spent the morning gleefully directing reporters to a statement from the Republican nominee Tuesday – three days after the bailout bill was introduced – that he had not read the text of the administration’s proposal.
"I have not had a chance to see it in writing. I have to examine it,” he told a Cleveland television station.
it's NOT a done deal ... supposedly, house minority leader Boener is pimping a plan that the conservative house republicans would like considered. Hold tight ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
what part of this post do you not agree with. teh future president should be involved first hand in this issue. you can question whenther McCain is the person who should be president but all i am saying is that teh potenial president should be there.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Rep. Spencer Bachus, the top Republican on the House Financial Services Committee, seems to be on board with the proposal.
I'm all for people cleaning up their own mess, but I don't trust them.
You never answered my question from the previous page?
Rep Richard Shelby, who is actually on the banking committee ... was just blustering how he does not agree with it, how he has e-mails from 5 leading economists that say it won't work, etc etc ...
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
sorry i did not see that question. i agree with you that suspending the campaign was stupid and i wrote that before. i agree that palin should stand up and i don't liek her as a VP. i actually don't like both Obama and mcCain my point is that i think the 2 peopel who have a chance of being president should be working with teh senate. did i miss any part, if i did i am sorry and will go read your post agian.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
I'm sure that there are going to be Dems and Reps who come out against it but I don't think they would have made the announcement that they have a plan if they didn't already make sure that it would pass with ease.
I'll ask once again.
TO DO WHAT?
Obama and McCain have already agreed upon the provisions. The statement has been passed on to both parties and agreement has now been reached by both Republicans and Democrats. All that is left to do now is get Bush to approve it and then vote on it.
What can either Obama and McCain do further?
Over at Politico, they report that Barney Frank minced few words, saying: "Nobody mentioned him. The man's irrelevant to the whole process. No Republican mentioned his name. I'm the only one who raised his name. They winced when I did." Frank also compared McCain to a cartoon superhero:
"He's been irrelevant to the process. He remains to be," said Frank. "I was afraid that his dropping in here, like Andy Kaufman's Mighty Mouse -- 'here I am to save the day' -- I thought that would slow things down. I didn't see any sign of our Republican colleagues paying any attention to him whatsoever."
do you not believe that the 2 potenial leaders of the country can't do anything more. i am glad that teh agreement is done, but don't you think that if let's say the agreement was not done that obama and mccain woudl have been able to sway people to get in fixed. if you don't think so then that says alot about the 2 people running for president.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Well, we know that one of the 2 people has been completely irrelevant in the process.
both people are senators so we can't really say that any of them have done a good job.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)