Lovely quotes, baraka. I'm addicted to quotes. If only I could come off sounding so profound and wise.
"There can be no knowledge without emotion. We may be aware of a truth, yet until we have felt its force, it is not ours. To the cognition of the brain must be added the experience of the soul.” - Arnold Bennett
Amazing quote, Abook! I love it and that statement is absolutely accurate.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I think you have your threads confused. This is the feelings vs logic thread. Discerning information is different than lumping it altogether indiscriminately.
Because Einstein made quotes on free will does not minimize the validity of the quotes he made regarding imagination and reality.
Honestly, you don't get what I'm saying at all. I agree with all of Einstein's quotes. But I understand the guy. You are looking for Einstein to think like you, I'm not. I'm not going to marry my cousin. Einstein is a different person than me, with different views, we just happen to share a lot of them.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Suggest away, Ahnimus. I'm tuned into my emotional intelligence. When people show me who and where they are, I listen to the message they send.
Then use your intelligence and let it fucking go.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
" The intellect has little to do on the road to discovery. There comes a leap in consciousness, call it intuition or what you will, the solution comes to you and you don't know how or why"
Exactly and now we know how and why. Did you all forget Einstein didn't buy into free-will?
"Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper." - Albert Einstein
"I do not at all believe in human freedom in the philosophical sense. Everybody acts not only under external compulsion but also in accordance with inner necessity. Schopenhauer's saying, 'A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants,' has been a real inspiration to me since my youth." - Albert Einstein
Ahnimus, I'm waiting on pins and needles to hear the 'how and why'!!!! Do tell! Also, you might want to tell us all what the statement "'A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants" means to you exactly.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Ahnimus, I'm waiting on pins and needles to hear the 'how and why'!!!! Do tell! Also, you might want to tell us all what the statement "'A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants" means to you exactly.
It's so fucking obvious and I've repeated myself over and over again.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.. and I'm not so sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Neuroscientist Antonio Damasio studied people who had received brain injuries that had had one specific effect: to damage that part of the brain where emotions are generated. In all other respects they seemed normal - they just lost the ability to feel emotions.
The interesting thing he found was that their ability to make decisions was seriously impaired. They could logically describe what they should be doing, in practice they found it very difficult to make decisions about where to live, what to eat, etc.
In particular, many decisions have pros and cons on both sides. Shall I have the fish or the beef? With no rational way to decide, they were unable to make the decision.
Very interesting, Kabong!
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
"Emotions are brain representations of body states
Damasio’s theories are based upon the standard neuroscientific conceptualization of brain function, a framework which originally derived from work on the visual system. Essentially, objects in the external environment cause patterns of activation of retinal receptive cells, and these retinal patterns are processed serially and in parallel to extract the visual aspects of the environment that we perceive. Patterns in the external world correspond with patterns of nerve cell activity in the brain, and these brain patterns are termed cognitive representations. So ‘thinking’ is done by means of patterns of nerve cell activation." http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/damasioreview.html
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It sounds like you're looking for someone who knows their place--who "let's it go" because you tell them to. Telling people what to do is sure a lot easier than solving problems. The problem is, it doesn't solve problems. It creates dysfunctional imbalances. If that's your cup of tea, be my guest. It's not for me, however.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Emotions and consciousness
Emotions are also vital to the higher reaches of distinctively human intelligence. Contrary to some popular notions, emotions do not ‘get in the way of’ rational thinking - emotions are essential to rationality.
Damasio’s group is probably best known for their case studies of reasoning in people with neurological damage to their emotional systems. For instance, people with damage to the ventro-medial part of the pre-frontal cortex (VMPFC) may be able to perform to a high level on most language and intelligence tests, but they display gross defects of planning, judgement and social appropriateness. Damasio’s group have shown that these defects in patients with VMPFC damage are caused by their inability to respond emotionally to the content of their thoughts.
For instance, using the above example, when thinking about an aggressive man, a normal person would physically experience the emotion of fear, because thoughts can lead to emotions. Thinking-about frightening events can activate the sympathetic nervous system, just as real life frightening events can cause activation (this is why people read ‘thrillers’ - to make themselves frightened). But when a person has VMPFC damage they will not activate the emotion of fear, hence they will not be able to make appropriate judgments of this individual, nor will their plans take into account his aggressive disposition. A person with VMPFC damage can not be frightened by reading about a murderer - although he would be frightened by meeting one in real life.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
There is nothing to fear but fear it's self. I have emotion but it's really hard to fear one's own fate.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
"No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude."
Karl Popper
"Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason."
Oscar Wilde
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
It's so fucking obvious and I've repeated myself over and over again.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.. and I'm not so sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Well, I'm not too smart Ahnimus, so please clarify. The quote you posted is quite true, but has nothing to do with a "leap in consciouness". Tell me, where and how does inspiration come about. Tell me in your own words.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
It sounds like you're looking for someone who knows their place--who "let's it go" because you tell them to. Telling people what to do is sure a lot easier than solving problems. The problem is, it doesn't solve problems. It creates dysfunctional imbalances. If that's your cup of tea, be my guest. It's not for me, however.
Nope, just looking for someone that isn't going to cry every time something shitty happens and can get over the little things without external help.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It's so fucking obvious and I've repeated myself over and over again.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.. and I'm not so sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
how do you expect ppl to let things go when you continue to speak to them in such a condescending manner filled w/ negative emotion??
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Well, I'm not too smart Ahnimus, so please clarify. The quote you posted is quite true, but has nothing to do with a "leap in consciouness". Tell me, where and how does inspiration come about. Tell me in your own words.
Intuition comes from the Fronto-Insular Cortex (FI) of the brain.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Nope, just looking for someone that isn't going to cry every time something shitty happens and can get over the little things without external help.
I'm honoured to have a healthy, enlivened emotional system. My emotions are my only direct feedback showing me what to watch for in my life. As it should be. It sounds like that makes you uncomfortable.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
how do you expect ppl to let things go when you continue to speak to them in such a condescending manner filled w/ negative emotion??
Are you suggesting people don't speak to me the same way?
I've found Angelica to be quite arrogant concerning her "fullness" "wholeness" bullshit. Saying crap like "When you achieve my level, you will understand."
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
"Emotions are brain representations of body states
Damasio’s theories are based upon the standard neuroscientific conceptualization of brain function, a framework which originally derived from work on the visual system. Essentially, objects in the external environment cause patterns of activation of retinal receptive cells, and these retinal patterns are processed serially and in parallel to extract the visual aspects of the environment that we perceive. Patterns in the external world correspond with patterns of nerve cell activity in the brain, and these brain patterns are termed cognitive representations. So ‘thinking’ is done by means of patterns of nerve cell activation." http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/damasioreview.html
Duh! and your point?
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I'm honoured to have a healthy, enlivened emotional system. My emotions are my only direct feedback showing me what to watch for in my life. As it should be. It sounds like that makes you uncomfortable.
I'm just sick of listening to you cry about stuff.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Intuition comes from the Fronto-Insular Cortex (FI) of the brain.
what about curiousity?
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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Amazing quote, Abook! I love it and that statement is absolutely accurate.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Honestly, you don't get what I'm saying at all. I agree with all of Einstein's quotes. But I understand the guy. You are looking for Einstein to think like you, I'm not. I'm not going to marry my cousin. Einstein is a different person than me, with different views, we just happen to share a lot of them.
Then use your intelligence and let it fucking go.
I let it go when there is no longer an issue.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Well, I'd hate to be your husband.
Ahnimus, I'm waiting on pins and needles to hear the 'how and why'!!!! Do tell! Also, you might want to tell us all what the statement "'A man can do what he wants, but not want what he wants" means to you exactly.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
It's so fucking obvious and I've repeated myself over and over again.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.. and I'm not so sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Very interesting, Kabong!
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Play nice, Ahnimus
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
"Emotions are brain representations of body states
Damasio’s theories are based upon the standard neuroscientific conceptualization of brain function, a framework which originally derived from work on the visual system. Essentially, objects in the external environment cause patterns of activation of retinal receptive cells, and these retinal patterns are processed serially and in parallel to extract the visual aspects of the environment that we perceive. Patterns in the external world correspond with patterns of nerve cell activity in the brain, and these brain patterns are termed cognitive representations. So ‘thinking’ is done by means of patterns of nerve cell activation."
http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/damasioreview.html
It sounds like you're looking for someone who knows their place--who "let's it go" because you tell them to. Telling people what to do is sure a lot easier than solving problems. The problem is, it doesn't solve problems. It creates dysfunctional imbalances. If that's your cup of tea, be my guest. It's not for me, however.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Emotions are also vital to the higher reaches of distinctively human intelligence. Contrary to some popular notions, emotions do not ‘get in the way of’ rational thinking - emotions are essential to rationality.
Damasio’s group is probably best known for their case studies of reasoning in people with neurological damage to their emotional systems. For instance, people with damage to the ventro-medial part of the pre-frontal cortex (VMPFC) may be able to perform to a high level on most language and intelligence tests, but they display gross defects of planning, judgement and social appropriateness. Damasio’s group have shown that these defects in patients with VMPFC damage are caused by their inability to respond emotionally to the content of their thoughts.
For instance, using the above example, when thinking about an aggressive man, a normal person would physically experience the emotion of fear, because thoughts can lead to emotions. Thinking-about frightening events can activate the sympathetic nervous system, just as real life frightening events can cause activation (this is why people read ‘thrillers’ - to make themselves frightened). But when a person has VMPFC damage they will not activate the emotion of fear, hence they will not be able to make appropriate judgments of this individual, nor will their plans take into account his aggressive disposition. A person with VMPFC damage can not be frightened by reading about a murderer - although he would be frightened by meeting one in real life.
"No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude."
Karl Popper
"Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason."
Oscar Wilde
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Well, I'm not too smart Ahnimus, so please clarify. The quote you posted is quite true, but has nothing to do with a "leap in consciouness". Tell me, where and how does inspiration come about. Tell me in your own words.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Nope, just looking for someone that isn't going to cry every time something shitty happens and can get over the little things without external help.
how do you expect ppl to let things go when you continue to speak to them in such a condescending manner filled w/ negative emotion??
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Intuition comes from the Fronto-Insular Cortex (FI) of the brain.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Are you suggesting people don't speak to me the same way?
I've found Angelica to be quite arrogant concerning her "fullness" "wholeness" bullshit. Saying crap like "When you achieve my level, you will understand."
Duh! and your point?
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I'm just sick of listening to you cry about stuff.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3971619&postcount=67
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
It's the same shit I've been saying all a long.
I'm way ahead of you Kabong
what about curiousity?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
LOL! You set yourself up with this one!
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
WTF are you talking about?