Also what % of Americans have access to this type of healthcare???
My point in the universal system is 100% would have the same access....the private system excludes millions upon millions of people....
but those millions upon millions are just lazy layabouts!!!!
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Also what % of Americans have access to this type of healthcare???
My point in the universal system is 100% would have the same access....the private system excludes millions upon millions of people....
take a look about. welfare mammas used to pop out kids because they got more money for each kid. the government had to limit the number of kids it will pay for. sit in a pain management doctors office and see how many people are trying to get on the social security free ride. once they limp out the door it's a dash to their vehicles. my friend is a pain management doctor and he had camaras hidden all over his parking lot. he turns in at least 6 out of 10 patients in for fraud. then spend a day down at the courthouse. i've actually seen women who have a friend sign their support checks; then go to court claiming they never received support. it wasn't their signature so the bloke had to pay a second time. here's one my ex pulled. she kept a bank account in another state and went on welfare. i carried insurance on the kids but she took them to the welfare doctor; then submitted the receipt to the insurance company and got "reimbursed". i can go on with these blue collar crimes all day.
take a look about. welfare mammas used to pop out kids because they got more money for each kid. the government had to limit the number of kids it will pay for. sit in a pain management doctors office and see how many people are trying to get on the social security free ride. once they limp out the door it's a dash to their vehicles. my friend is a pain management doctor and he had camaras hidden all over his parking lot. he turns in at least 6 out of 10 patients in for fraud. then spend a day down at the courthouse. i've actually seen women who have a friend sign their support checks; then go to court claiming they never received support. it wasn't their signature so the bloke had to pay a second time. here's one my ex pulled. she kept a bank account in another state and went on welfare. i carried insurance on the kids but she took them to the welfare doctor; then submitted the receipt to the insurance company and got "reimbursed". i can go on with these blue collar crimes all day.
that americans are allowed to be layabouts. and universal healthcare cannot be achieved under those conditions. i saw a news report that said illegals are passing through the us and going directly into canada. i don't know how true this is but if true; your system will soon be over taxed. over tax or over regulate businesses and they'll close their doors. that's the point.
that americans are allowed to be layabouts. and universal healthcare cannot be achieved under those conditions. i saw a news report that said illegals are passing through the us and going directly into canada. i don't know how true this is but if true; your system will soon be over taxed. over tax or over regulate businesses and they'll close their doors. that's the point.
how do you know...? seriously...
the problems you keep mentioning are under the current system, who's to say they won't be addressed under another system...?
the problems you keep mentioning are under the current system, who's to say they won't be addressed under another system...?
i've never seen a tiger change its stripes. maybe i know more layabouts then most people but most of the people i know that work; work only for insurance. that's the only reason to drive 64 miles each way to work. i know a lot of self employed people but for the most part; if you show low income you get welfare and medicaid. that makes selling drugs more popular. it's unreported income so you keep your government benefits too. another system may address the problem but if people are not working now; why would they work by giving them free benefits?
i've never seen a tiger change its stripes. maybe i know more layabouts then most people but most of the people i know that work; work only for insurance. that's the only reason to drive 64 miles each way to work. i know a lot of self employed people but for the most part; if you show low income you get welfare and medicaid. that makes selling drugs more popular. it's unreported income so you keep your government benefits too. another system may address the problem but if people are not working now; why would they work by giving them free benefits?
then what's the big deal about universal health care...? christ, you bitch about layabout this and layabout that...I agree, some do cheat the system, which is entirely different from what Mr. Moore is talking about...which is having health care for those who need it when they need it...
then what's the big deal about universal health care...? christ, you bitch about layabout this and layabout that...I agree, some do cheat the system, which is entirely different from what Mr. Moore is talking about...which is having health care for those who need it when they need it...
mr moore didn't give any verifiable facts. it was a fictional movie. if i can get free healthcare i won't work another day of my life. i retired at age 40;- 11 years ago and work only for healthcare. i'll be the first layabout to cheat the system.
mr moore didn't give any verifiable facts. it was a fictional movie. if i can get free healthcare i won't work another day of my life. i retired at age 40;- 11 years ago and work only for healthcare. i'll be the first layabout to cheat the system.
Well, that reflects upon you. The other countries with socialized medicine seem to be doing fine, sure they have problems but so do we. It's nothing more than a scare tactic to act like people will all just up and stop working if we adopted a UHC system in the US.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Well, that reflects upon you. The other countries with socialized medicine seem to be doing fine, sure they have problems but so do we. It's nothing more than a scare tactic to act like people will all just up and stop working if we adopted a UHC system in the US.
i'm expecting UHC and i've taken steps to make sure i get every penny. everything goes in a pre-tax trust which is offshore. on paper; i do qualify for welfare and medicaid. this thread has convinced me to apply to show how easy it is.
mr moore didn't give any verifiable facts. it was a fictional movie. if i can get free healthcare i won't work another day of my life. i retired at age 40;- 11 years ago and work only for healthcare. i'll be the first layabout to cheat the system.
how would you pay for food...? shelter...? clothing...?
how would you pay for food...? shelter...? clothing...?
cash. a short trip to the bahamas refills the wallet. everything i own is paid in full. and titled to the trust. all this started when social security denied my dad saying he didn't need the money. his lawyer came up with this scam.
how would you pay for food...? shelter...? clothing...?
From what I have gathered in the last 3 weeks, he retired at 40 and funnels money offshore, and he owns multiple manufacturing facilities where hundreds of people work and does environmental research constructing climate models.
Anybody that busy is never home so doesn't need shelter and doesn't have time to eat or change clothes...
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
Damn it seems that work ethic between Canada and the USA varies quite a bit...I work because I went to school to be an engineer and I love my job work for my paycheque....and so 98% of our populace...I would hate to work a job just because they had a good insurance policy glad I do not need to worry about that.....
cash. a short trip to the bahamas refills the wallet. everything i own is paid in full. and titled to the trust. all this started when social security denied my dad saying he didn't need the money. his lawyer came up with this scam.
ha ha haaaaa haaa...
you bitch and moan about layabouts....yet you're the same damn thing...a bum living off of someone else...
woooooo hoooooo hooooo...this shit is great...!!!
what's next, you're going to tell us you invented the maxi pad with wings...?
From what I have gathered in the last 3 weeks, he retired at 40 and funnels money offshore, and he owns multiple manufacturing facilities where hundreds of people work and does environmental research constructing climate models.
Anybody that busy is never home so doesn't need shelter and doesn't have time to eat or change clothes...
From what I have gathered in the last 3 weeks, he retired at 40 and funnels money offshore, and he owns multiple manufacturing facilities where hundreds of people work and does environmental research constructing climate models.
Anybody that busy is never home so doesn't need shelter and doesn't have time to eat or change clothes...
is that how it works in canada? here we can start/buy a business and have other people run it. mostly family members with me. i have more control over them. would you like to know the trick to making big money fast?
is that how it works in canada? here we can start/buy a business and have other people run it. mostly family members with me. i have more control over them. would you like to know the trick to making big money fast?
Here in Canada we use sarcasm when we have nothing productive to say.
Big money fast? Sure, lay it on me...
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
Here in Canada we use sarcasm when we have nothing productive to say.
Big money fast? Sure, lay it on me...
my dad and i bought a small manufacturing company in 1974. part A needed chrome so we found a small plating company to send it to. over the next couple months i got in good with the foreman then took him and his wife to dinner. i offered to set him up in his own business. he'll buy the business from us and we'd send our plating to him. we; of course financed him. we got our parts done first and cheaper than anyone else would charge. after a couple years we pulled our work from him and took the business back when he couldn't make the payments. we did this for anodizing; gun-drilling; grinding; and almost all of our out sourced work. what happens is you have someone that knows the business and works like it's for them. when we pull the rug from under them; the business is up and opperating and you put his foreman in charge of running the business with a family member overseeing everything.
my real problem with him is that he lies to the american public and they believe him. some people still believe that F9/11 was real. here's a guy sitting in california claiming to know what top government officials were thinking and where they were at any given moment. he was privy to the same news reports we were.
he's made movies but so has steven spielberg. cnn had moore on a couple times but they also had others on that tore the film apart. first; non-cuban residents MUST pay for medical services; unless they're making a film trying to discrace the us. there is a seperate hospital for non-residents. doctors in cuba make $20.00 per MONTH. patients have to supply their own sheets and food. the pictires showed big wards with beds packed in. the windows didn't have screens and the sanitary conditions would not be accepted in any other country. canada has announced that sheets will no longer be changed between patients. they will be turned over and washed every other patient. since americans insist on service and clean conditions; moore is full of s**t.
canada has a movement now where they're trying to get private healthcare for those who can afford faster service and better care. i'll try to find a link for you.
whew! that's a relief. so there's no problem. The health care system is a well oiled machine where no Americans are left out. It's just MM trying to give the US a black eye.
Next thing you're going to tell me is that the Haliburton he talks about and it's leader Dick Cheney are real and not a figure of moore's imagination.
my dad and i bought a small manufacturing company in 1974. part A needed chrome so we found a small plating company to send it to. over the next couple months i got in good with the foreman then took him and his wife to dinner. i offered to set him up in his own business. he'll buy the business from us and we'd send our plating to him. we; of course financed him. we got our parts done first and cheaper than anyone else would charge. after a couple years we pulled our work from him and took the business back when he couldn't make the payments. we did this for anodizing; gun-drilling; grinding; and almost all of our out sourced work. what happens is you have someone that knows the business and works like it's for them. when we pull the rug from under them; the business is up and opperating and you put his foreman in charge of running the business with a family member overseeing everything.
That sounds like a lot more work, time and energy than it's worth at this stage of my life. Sounds like big money, but not really fast. I make a comfortable enough living where my free time is mine and I do what I want with it anyway. You had me excited, like you had a lottery scam or something.
#==(o )
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
That sounds like a lot more work, time and energy than it's worth at this stage of my life. Sounds like big money, but not really fast. I make a comfortable enough living where my free time is mine and I do what I want with it anyway. You had me excited, like you had a lottery scam or something.
it's actually no work at all. except a few dinners and things to romance the guy. the beauty is; he does all the work. he thinks he's building a business for himself so he puts more effort into it. he puts his own money into it on top of yours.
that's where the secret is. you take money from someone else to get ahead. look at microsoft. does it really cost bill gates $700 to make a full copy of windows? that's what you'll pay if you try to buy a legit copy. i'm sure burning a copy costs him only pennies.
so here's where we return to healthcare. if there's not money in it; business men will not invest. or; we find a loophole. if microsoft had to limit earnings; smaller splinter companies could be formed. for example; one company only makes internet explorer.
my doctor has done something similar. his office practice is owned by his wife. his hospital time is his. he's got a much lower tax rate because it's divided between 2 people. the company that supplies his staff is owned by his son. he pays (and writes off) $20/hour per person yet his son pays the employees $8.00 to $10.00/hour.
now; let's say medicare will pay $100 for an office visit. he bills $135 and takes $35 as a loss. it's only a loss on paper but he still deducts it (legally) as a loss. subtract that $35.00 from the $100 he made and he's paying tax on $65.00. i'm just using numbers as examples but that's the jist of it.
From what I have gathered in the last 3 weeks, he retired at 40 and funnels money offshore, and he owns multiple manufacturing facilities where hundreds of people work and does environmental research constructing climate models.
Anybody that busy is never home so doesn't need shelter and doesn't have time to eat or change clothes...
the truth is; i've got too much time on my hands. i like playing with the computer and i've been trying to come up with a way to make money off of global warming. i don't believe all the specialists because they are specialized. for example; you won't go to a proctologist for a foot problem. so although i don't do enviornmental research; i've been looking at global warming from a business aspect and that was the results of my feasability study. i still bet i'm right.
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but those millions upon millions are just lazy layabouts!!!!
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
That's what fear mongerer's to univeral healthcare will have you believe....which is nothing short of bullshit.....
take a look about. welfare mammas used to pop out kids because they got more money for each kid. the government had to limit the number of kids it will pay for. sit in a pain management doctors office and see how many people are trying to get on the social security free ride. once they limp out the door it's a dash to their vehicles. my friend is a pain management doctor and he had camaras hidden all over his parking lot. he turns in at least 6 out of 10 patients in for fraud. then spend a day down at the courthouse. i've actually seen women who have a friend sign their support checks; then go to court claiming they never received support. it wasn't their signature so the bloke had to pay a second time. here's one my ex pulled. she kept a bank account in another state and went on welfare. i carried insurance on the kids but she took them to the welfare doctor; then submitted the receipt to the insurance company and got "reimbursed". i can go on with these blue collar crimes all day.
so, what's your point..?
That is why I have not posted back I am still trying to determine that....well its relevance to universal healthcare....
that americans are allowed to be layabouts. and universal healthcare cannot be achieved under those conditions. i saw a news report that said illegals are passing through the us and going directly into canada. i don't know how true this is but if true; your system will soon be over taxed. over tax or over regulate businesses and they'll close their doors. that's the point.
how do you know...? seriously...
the problems you keep mentioning are under the current system, who's to say they won't be addressed under another system...?
i've never seen a tiger change its stripes. maybe i know more layabouts then most people but most of the people i know that work; work only for insurance. that's the only reason to drive 64 miles each way to work. i know a lot of self employed people but for the most part; if you show low income you get welfare and medicaid. that makes selling drugs more popular. it's unreported income so you keep your government benefits too. another system may address the problem but if people are not working now; why would they work by giving them free benefits?
then what's the big deal about universal health care...? christ, you bitch about layabout this and layabout that...I agree, some do cheat the system, which is entirely different from what Mr. Moore is talking about...which is having health care for those who need it when they need it...
mr moore didn't give any verifiable facts. it was a fictional movie. if i can get free healthcare i won't work another day of my life. i retired at age 40;- 11 years ago and work only for healthcare. i'll be the first layabout to cheat the system.
Well, that reflects upon you. The other countries with socialized medicine seem to be doing fine, sure they have problems but so do we. It's nothing more than a scare tactic to act like people will all just up and stop working if we adopted a UHC system in the US.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i'm expecting UHC and i've taken steps to make sure i get every penny. everything goes in a pre-tax trust which is offshore. on paper; i do qualify for welfare and medicaid. this thread has convinced me to apply to show how easy it is.
how would you pay for food...? shelter...? clothing...?
cash. a short trip to the bahamas refills the wallet. everything i own is paid in full. and titled to the trust. all this started when social security denied my dad saying he didn't need the money. his lawyer came up with this scam.
From what I have gathered in the last 3 weeks, he retired at 40 and funnels money offshore, and he owns multiple manufacturing facilities where hundreds of people work and does environmental research constructing climate models.
Anybody that busy is never home so doesn't need shelter and doesn't have time to eat or change clothes...
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
ha ha haaaaa haaa...
you bitch and moan about layabouts....yet you're the same damn thing...a bum living off of someone else...
woooooo hoooooo hooooo...this shit is great...!!!
what's next, you're going to tell us you invented the maxi pad with wings...?
nice.....!
is that how it works in canada? here we can start/buy a business and have other people run it. mostly family members with me. i have more control over them. would you like to know the trick to making big money fast?
Here in Canada we use sarcasm when we have nothing productive to say.
Big money fast? Sure, lay it on me...
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
my dad and i bought a small manufacturing company in 1974. part A needed chrome so we found a small plating company to send it to. over the next couple months i got in good with the foreman then took him and his wife to dinner. i offered to set him up in his own business. he'll buy the business from us and we'd send our plating to him. we; of course financed him. we got our parts done first and cheaper than anyone else would charge. after a couple years we pulled our work from him and took the business back when he couldn't make the payments. we did this for anodizing; gun-drilling; grinding; and almost all of our out sourced work. what happens is you have someone that knows the business and works like it's for them. when we pull the rug from under them; the business is up and opperating and you put his foreman in charge of running the business with a family member overseeing everything.
whew! that's a relief. so there's no problem. The health care system is a well oiled machine where no Americans are left out. It's just MM trying to give the US a black eye.
Next thing you're going to tell me is that the Haliburton he talks about and it's leader Dick Cheney are real and not a figure of moore's imagination.
that would be really scary.
That sounds like a lot more work, time and energy than it's worth at this stage of my life. Sounds like big money, but not really fast. I make a comfortable enough living where my free time is mine and I do what I want with it anyway. You had me excited, like you had a lottery scam or something.
You are not your job.
You are not how much money you have in the bank.
You are not the car you drive.
You are not the contents of your wallet.
You are not your fucking khakis.
it's actually no work at all. except a few dinners and things to romance the guy. the beauty is; he does all the work. he thinks he's building a business for himself so he puts more effort into it. he puts his own money into it on top of yours.
that's where the secret is. you take money from someone else to get ahead. look at microsoft. does it really cost bill gates $700 to make a full copy of windows? that's what you'll pay if you try to buy a legit copy. i'm sure burning a copy costs him only pennies.
so here's where we return to healthcare. if there's not money in it; business men will not invest. or; we find a loophole. if microsoft had to limit earnings; smaller splinter companies could be formed. for example; one company only makes internet explorer.
my doctor has done something similar. his office practice is owned by his wife. his hospital time is his. he's got a much lower tax rate because it's divided between 2 people. the company that supplies his staff is owned by his son. he pays (and writes off) $20/hour per person yet his son pays the employees $8.00 to $10.00/hour.
now; let's say medicare will pay $100 for an office visit. he bills $135 and takes $35 as a loss. it's only a loss on paper but he still deducts it (legally) as a loss. subtract that $35.00 from the $100 he made and he's paying tax on $65.00. i'm just using numbers as examples but that's the jist of it.
the truth is; i've got too much time on my hands. i like playing with the computer and i've been trying to come up with a way to make money off of global warming. i don't believe all the specialists because they are specialized. for example; you won't go to a proctologist for a foot problem. so although i don't do enviornmental research; i've been looking at global warming from a business aspect and that was the results of my feasability study. i still bet i'm right.