He said it, not me.
“I had a student ask me, "Could the savior you believe in save Osama bin Laden?" Of course, we know the blood of Jesus Christ can save him, and then he must be executed”
“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”
“The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country”
“Now we're looking at what we really started on 30 years ago, reconstruction of a court system gone awry.”
“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”
“The whole (global warming) thing is created to destroy America's free enterprise system and our economic stability”
What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.
That's the worst part about this. They can't differentiate the respect that average people deserve (warts and all, we all make friends and enemies) with the scum of the earth who preach mass hatred by the millions. It's a shame that some can't differentiate. That's why we have the masses of sheep allowing scum like him make millions.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.
I got to it faster because there's 1/10th of a second online delay from the U.S. to South Korea
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
A Fellow Freak (as Ed referred to JL), had it exact, even back then....
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you
Instant Karma's gonna get you Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Ev'ryone come on
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet Better recognize your brothers
Ev'ryone you meet
Why in the world are we here
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you there
When you're ev'rywhere
Come and get your share
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Come on and on and on on on
Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
'If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, he has to be Jewish. The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish.'
ON THE TELETUBBIES:
As a Christian I feel that role modelling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children.
ON THE 9/11 ATTACKS:
The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad.
That's the worst part about this. They can't differentiate the respect that average people deserve (warts and all, we all make friends and enemies) with the scum of the earth who preach mass hatred by the millions. It's a shame that some can't differentiate. That's why we have the masses of sheep allowing scum like him make millions.
True. In a more civilized world, people like Falwell would be laughed at. Unfortunately millions end up hanging on his every word instead. We saw in 1933 how dangerous this can be. If I had it my way I'd have had the pudgy little pervert tarred and feathered and pelted with rotten fruit.
As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
This is all I have been trying to say. I could have used better words, yes, but very well said Abook.
What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
What's really scary is the number of people denouncing Jerry Falwell's message of "hate" with an equivalent amount of vitriol, as if two wrongs make a right.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
What's really scary is the number of people denouncing Jerry Falwell's message of "hate" with an equivalent amount of vitriol, as if two wrongs make a right.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
I think one definitely outweighs the other, merely on societal scale and impact alone.
Sometimes the bad one does outweighs the good in the final sum of life.
here we have one such man.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
As much as I personally disliked the guy, I can't excuse myself to rejoice in his death. That would allow me to spew the same hate that I despised him for spreading.
i just don't want to stoop to fartwell's level.....i have as much contempt for the man as much as anybody but at some point the one must rise above and hope no one takes his place (yeah right :rolleyes: )
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
yup, one tasteless comment labels an entire group....:rolleyes:
either way, while I did not care for Mr. Falwell's views, my condolences for his family and friends...
Right...how many posts on here have been the "good riddance" and "glad that fucker is dead" posts? If it were just one or two, but it is all of you hateful fuckers.
Right...how many posts on here have been the "good riddance" and "glad that fucker is dead" posts? If it were just one or two, but it is all of you hateful fuckers.
give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
lol....pretty close for another planet and all.. I suspect distant cousin...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
This is why anyone with power and influence on this Earth needs to be careful what they say. I have no power or influence so I can say whatever I like about the retarded freak.
give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
I like your second signature by the way. Have you read either of these books...
Amazon.co.uk Review
John Gray's Straw Dogs attempts to present a world view in which humans are not central and which argues against the humanist belief in progress. The heart of the book is summed up in the idea that modern humanists have still not come to terms with Darwin, still not come to terms with the idea that humans are like other animals. Christians and modern humanists in the Platonic-Cartesian tradition typically think of humans enjoying a special relationship to God, or a special status in nature in a way that other animals do not. Even the great debunkers--philosophers such as Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and Heidegger--end up making human beings the centre of things or the end point of some world-historical process. By contrast, in a Taoist, Shinto, Hindu or animist culture Darwin's discovery would have been easily accommodated since these faiths see humans and other animals as kin.
In short, for Gray, humanism is nothing more than "a secular religion thrown together from decaying scraps of Christian myth". Gray champions James Lovelock's view of the Earth as a self-regulating system whose behaviour resembles, in some ways, that of an organism. The Gaia hypothesis is the backdrop to Gray's apparently relentless pessimism about the fate of humankind. What it teaches us is that this self-regulating system has no need of humanity, does not exist for the sake of humanity, and will regulate itself in ignorance of humanity's fate.
Straw Dogs can be usefully compared with Mary Midgely's excellent Science and Poetry since both take off from the view of man as animal while sharing similar views about the cultural role of philosophy. Both encourage us to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian-Kantian philosophical tradition while stressing the importance of Gaia in emphasising our essential continuity with the physical and natural world. For Gray, humans "think they are free, conscious beings, when in truth they are deluded animals". Straw Dogs could have been made to stretch for 500 large pages. Instead you get 200 small pages of gold; simple, concise, riveting.--Larry Brown
give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
The anger being generated from top levels is also daily occurrence at the moment. Hard to separate oneself when it's persistent.
When the war and oppression from top levels subsides I believe society in general will calm as well. From a gov't perspective, it's a terrible example to lead a nation by.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
Amazon.co.uk Review
John Gray's Straw Dogs attempts to present a world view in which humans are not central and which argues against the humanist belief in progress. The heart of the book is summed up in the idea that modern humanists have still not come to terms with Darwin, still not come to terms with the idea that humans are like other animals. Christians and modern humanists in the Platonic-Cartesian tradition typically think of humans enjoying a special relationship to God, or a special status in nature in a way that other animals do not. Even the great debunkers--philosophers such as Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and Heidegger--end up making human beings the centre of things or the end point of some world-historical process. By contrast, in a Taoist, Shinto, Hindu or animist culture Darwin's discovery would have been easily accommodated since these faiths see humans and other animals as kin.
In short, for Gray, humanism is nothing more than "a secular religion thrown together from decaying scraps of Christian myth". Gray champions James Lovelock's view of the Earth as a self-regulating system whose behaviour resembles, in some ways, that of an organism. The Gaia hypothesis is the backdrop to Gray's apparently relentless pessimism about the fate of humankind. What it teaches us is that this self-regulating system has no need of humanity, does not exist for the sake of humanity, and will regulate itself in ignorance of humanity's fate.
Straw Dogs can be usefully compared with Mary Midgely's excellent Science and Poetry since both take off from the view of man as animal while sharing similar views about the cultural role of philosophy. Both encourage us to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian-Kantian philosophical tradition while stressing the importance of Gaia in emphasising our essential continuity with the physical and natural world. For Gray, humans "think they are free, conscious beings, when in truth they are deluded animals". Straw Dogs could have been made to stretch for 500 large pages. Instead you get 200 small pages of gold; simple, concise, riveting.--Larry Brown
Thanks, judging by your chosen profession, I will certainly take them to heart.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
He did open his mouth and confirm it. Read the quotes above.
Godfather quotes are always relevant: "Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgment."
But my response was to the hypocrisy in your post, that's all. I noticed you didn't even touch that hypocrisy, instead you point to what others do as an excuse for your poor behavior. Take care.
Comments
What's scary is that there are people on this message board defending this pathetic person.
Edit: RolandTD20Kdrummer beat me to it.
33 years on this earth, and I've yet to meet one. So, no.
www.myspace.com/jensvad
That's the worst part about this. They can't differentiate the respect that average people deserve (warts and all, we all make friends and enemies) with the scum of the earth who preach mass hatred by the millions. It's a shame that some can't differentiate. That's why we have the masses of sheep allowing scum like him make millions.
nowadays hits you when you're young
I got to it faster because there's 1/10th of a second online delay from the U.S. to South Korea
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Ev'ryone come on
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Ev'ryone you meet
Why in the world are we here
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you there
When you're ev'rywhere
Come and get your share
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Come on and on and on on on
Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
ON THE ANTICHRIST:
'If he's going to be the counterfeit of Christ, he has to be Jewish. The only thing we know is he must be male and Jewish.'
ON THE TELETUBBIES:
As a Christian I feel that role modelling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children.
ON THE 9/11 ATTACKS:
The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad.
True. In a more civilized world, people like Falwell would be laughed at. Unfortunately millions end up hanging on his every word instead. We saw in 1933 how dangerous this can be. If I had it my way I'd have had the pudgy little pervert tarred and feathered and pelted with rotten fruit.
fuck you falwell!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
This is all I have been trying to say. I could have used better words, yes, but very well said Abook.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
What's really scary is the number of people denouncing Jerry Falwell's message of "hate" with an equivalent amount of vitriol, as if two wrongs make a right.
The sad part is that the tremendous amount of good that this person did is going to be overlooked. How would any of you like that to be your legacy on this earth?
I think one definitely outweighs the other, merely on societal scale and impact alone.
Sometimes the bad one does outweighs the good in the final sum of life.
here we have one such man.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
i just don't want to stoop to fartwell's level.....i have as much contempt for the man as much as anybody but at some point the one must rise above and hope no one takes his place (yeah right :rolleyes: )
nice guitar riff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Right...how many posts on here have been the "good riddance" and "glad that fucker is dead" posts? If it were just one or two, but it is all of you hateful fuckers.
Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or type) and confirm it.
give and get...we had to listen to his stuff for years..he can take a day of pent up aggressions. Feels good for some to finally get it out. I doubt these are hateful mean people in general. Certainly not on the same scope as this fallwell guy anyway...stooping to his level would be quite a feat in reality.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://static.flickr.com/29/88078979_c92a08b490_o.jpg
lol....pretty close for another planet and all.. I suspect distant cousin...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
This is why anyone with power and influence on this Earth needs to be careful what they say. I have no power or influence so I can say whatever I like about the retarded freak.
He did open his mouth and confirm it. Read the quotes above.
I like your second signature by the way. Have you read either of these books...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Straw-Dogs-Thoughts-Humans-Animals/dp/1862075964/ref=pd_bowtega_3/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Heresies-Against-Progress-Other-Illusions/dp/1862077185/ref=sr_1_18/203-9211971-0743950?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1179285149&sr=1-18
Amazon.co.uk Review
John Gray's Straw Dogs attempts to present a world view in which humans are not central and which argues against the humanist belief in progress. The heart of the book is summed up in the idea that modern humanists have still not come to terms with Darwin, still not come to terms with the idea that humans are like other animals. Christians and modern humanists in the Platonic-Cartesian tradition typically think of humans enjoying a special relationship to God, or a special status in nature in a way that other animals do not. Even the great debunkers--philosophers such as Nietzsche, Wittgenstein and Heidegger--end up making human beings the centre of things or the end point of some world-historical process. By contrast, in a Taoist, Shinto, Hindu or animist culture Darwin's discovery would have been easily accommodated since these faiths see humans and other animals as kin.
In short, for Gray, humanism is nothing more than "a secular religion thrown together from decaying scraps of Christian myth". Gray champions James Lovelock's view of the Earth as a self-regulating system whose behaviour resembles, in some ways, that of an organism. The Gaia hypothesis is the backdrop to Gray's apparently relentless pessimism about the fate of humankind. What it teaches us is that this self-regulating system has no need of humanity, does not exist for the sake of humanity, and will regulate itself in ignorance of humanity's fate.
Straw Dogs can be usefully compared with Mary Midgely's excellent Science and Poetry since both take off from the view of man as animal while sharing similar views about the cultural role of philosophy. Both encourage us to overcome the Platonic-Cartesian-Kantian philosophical tradition while stressing the importance of Gaia in emphasising our essential continuity with the physical and natural world. For Gray, humans "think they are free, conscious beings, when in truth they are deluded animals". Straw Dogs could have been made to stretch for 500 large pages. Instead you get 200 small pages of gold; simple, concise, riveting.--Larry Brown
This post would be completely plausible if this was an isolated instance. Unfortunately, it is not. This type of hatred is a daily occurrence on this board.
The anger being generated from top levels is also daily occurrence at the moment. Hard to separate oneself when it's persistent.
When the war and oppression from top levels subsides I believe society in general will calm as well. From a gov't perspective, it's a terrible example to lead a nation by.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
....
Thanks, judging by your chosen profession, I will certainly take them to heart.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Godfather quotes are always relevant: "Never hate your enemies, it affects your judgment."
But my response was to the hypocrisy in your post, that's all. I noticed you didn't even touch that hypocrisy, instead you point to what others do as an excuse for your poor behavior. Take care.